War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition on sale!

[Chickenboy]

Also, for those of you considering the game, please note that some of the scenarios are relatively short and sweet and involve much much less micromanagement. The 'grand campaign' is a level of complexity that few players jump into right away. There are a lot of ways to gear up for that.

The Japanese AI is not bad at all. As a matter of fact, to the unitiated, it may very well beat up on you for a time. This has improved over time. You don't have to play another player PBEM right away or ever, for that matter. I would venture that most players don't and are perfectly content with their game experiences.

So, c'mon-you're running out of excuses! [;)]

[wings7]

I sure would like to see a Steam key for War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition...[8D] what will the future hold?

[Rising-Sun]

ORIGINAL: wings7

I sure would like to see a Steam key for War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition...[8D] what will the future hold?

Yeah wondering why it wont show up on Steam, got Distant Worlds Universe and already own those Matrix Distant Worlds Series too.

[Trugrit]

Very True
As I have posted on this before,

I always recommend War in The Pacific – Admiral’s Edition for anyone who is interested in
The vast scale and nuts and bolts details of mid 20th century modern industrial warfare.
All the elements are there in magnificent detail and more.

I’ve played it for several years and love it.

Be advised, WITPAE is a hardcore wargame and it attracts and retains hardcore wargamers.
The question is; are you a casual or hardcore wargamer?

Players of WITPAE know the difference between an AR and an ARD and how they are deployed and why. Knowing how to deploy the right tools and methods to repair a damaged ship doesn’t come up a lot at cocktail parties or in casual wargames. If you don’t think a game that involves a lot of detailed things like repairing and upgrading damaged ships is fun then WITPAE may not be the game for you.

It turns out that I’m a hardcore wargamer as well as a detail obsessed nerd.

Being a detail obsessed nerd is a tremendous advantage in WITPAE, it is not mandatory but be aware that WITPAE is not a casual wargame. You will need to know a lot more about the weapons platforms, How they are deployed and how to keep them in service because in a hardcore game there are a lot more variables to contend with. More similar to the real world where combat survival depends on experience, knowledge and thinking correctly about the detailed limitations of weapons, leadership
and logistics rather than just the simple mechanics of a casual wargame.

So, go look in a mirror and be honest with yourself.
Do you see a detail obsessed nerd looking back at you?
If you do then WITPAE could be real easy for you to learn and enjoy for years to come.

Just my two cents.

[Hotschi]

Best wargame ever - a single full campaign against the AI took me 3 years real time - and I enjoyed every single turn.

[Chickenboy]

[:D]

Great review, Trugrit.

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Hotschi

Best wargame ever - a single full campaign against the AI took me 3 years real time - and I enjoyed every single turn.

[&o]

[CaptBeefheart]

I turned a USN surface warfare Westpac retiree buddy on to the game but alas, it's been too much for him to grasp in the amount of free time he has. He does way better than me in World of Warships, though. The funny thing is I know a lot more about the IJN and even USN vessels and their capabilities in WoWs than he does thanks to WITP-AE.

Cheers,
CC

[RangerJoe]

I am on my second campaign game and I am already thinking that I need to make it harder for me. I might try the Japanese and then flip it and see how I do.

Of course, having a little Obsessive Cat Disorder also helps with this game.

[CaptBeefheart]

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

I am on my second campaign game and I am already thinking that I need to make it harder for me. I might try the Japanese and then flip it and see how I do.

Of course, having a little Obsessive Cat Disorder also helps with this game.

You might want to try one of Andy Mac's Ironman scenarios on hard. That'll give you a run for your money,

Cheers,
CC

[T Rav]

I've got another aspect about the game; one that I love about it. It has an amazing OB.

For example, how many folks know about the British ship, CM Abdiel, or it's history before seeing this game? For me, never. Whether it's ships, planes, units, weapons or bases, I like the deep dive that this game gives. Whatever question I have, I can find it on the net... but without this kind of detail I would never have known to even look.

Also, there is a developer/user relationship that I've never seen before; remarkable.

I bought it at full price and my cost is less than a penny/hour. If I lost it, I'd buy it again in a second. but I don't need to, because they have a great website that takes care of the lost hard drive issues. Been there, done that... Thanks Matrix!

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: T Rav

I've got another aspect about the game; one that I love about it. It has an amazing OB.

For example, how many folks know about the British ship, CM Abdiel, or it's history before seeing this game? For me, never. Whether it's ships, planes, units, weapons or bases, I like the deep dive that this game gives. Whatever question I have, I can find it on the net... but without this kind of detail I would never have known to even look.

Also, there is a developer/user relationship that I've never seen before; remarkable.

I bought it at full price and my cost is less than a penny/hour. If I lost it, I'd buy it again in a second. but I don't need to, because they have a great website that takes care of the lost hard drive issues. Been there, done that... Thanks Matrix!

You're absolutely right about the OOB and the sheer depth of it! Marvelous attention to detail. [&o]

[Trugrit]

I bought it at full price and my cost is less than a penny/hour. If I lost it, I'd buy it again in a second. but I don't need to, because they have a great website that takes care of the lost hard drive issues. Been there, done that... Thanks Matrix!

The game has always been cheap.
As I’ve said before, in terms of cost, you need to think of WITPAE as a “bundle”.

There are 2 main, configurable into 4, large official campaign scenarios.
I say 4, because the allied side and the Japanese side are different games in the campaign scenarios.
The mechanics are the same but the Japanese side is a completely different game.

The Japanese side is almost too complex for me to handle. I’m talking global supply chains, advanced project management, cost benefit analysis and industrial production management.There is a free special third party utility called tracker available that sorts configurable categories into around 22 different parameters.

There are forum posts from players who have used advanced mathematics to calculate game parameters.
Math formulas are embedded in the manual. How many games do you know where that is true? Hardcore.

I would pay $150.00 for the Japanese side alone.

Then you have the submarine game. This is a game within a game.
American, British, Dutch and Japanese subs comprising about 30 different classes of submarines.
Subs that can patrol and loiter and return to port to rearm and refuel on their own.
Subs that can make decisions to attack with torpedoes or surface and use deck guns.
Subs that can lay mines
Subs that can transport troops and supplies
Japanese Subs that can launch float planes for search
Midget subs
Midget sub carriers.
All this in the entire Pacific theater at 40 NM per hex.

Where in the game universe are you going to go to get a very good and detailed strategic Pacific War
submarine game that covers all nationalities in the entire Pacific Theater. The answer is nowhere else.
I would pay $100.00 for that alone.

Currently there are 7 or 8 different map styles available with information configurable for the user.
Then you have the short scenarios about 7 official scenarios and God knows how many player designed mods.
Then you have what I call the big intense mods, like DaBabes. Currently about 18? game mods for that one alone.

Then you have the editor so you can configure the entire game your way.

All I’ve said above just barely scratches the surface of WITPAE.
It will keep you busy and entertained for years and years and years and years.

Right now on sale for a measly $39.99 you can get about 35 to 40 games in this one package. “Bundle”
That’s around $1.14 per game if you are interested in WW2 in the Pacific.

[jack54]

I almost upgraded from the original WitP last Christmas sale... are the changes enough to justify the new purchase? I've been watching tutorial videos and it seems like the interface makes setting up TF's easier, plus Aircraft patrols seem more detailed.

I already purchase WitW and Operation:Torch but I wouldn't mind making it a '2x3' Christmas.


(I stopped playing the original after moving to windows 8.1. The game operated fine but higher resolution and the small ground icons got to me.)

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: jack54

I almost upgraded from the original WitP last Christmas sale... are the changes enough to justify the new purchase? I've been watching tutorial videos and it seems like the interface makes setting up TF's easier, plus Aircraft patrols seem more detailed.

I already purchase WitW and Operation:Torch but I wouldn't mind making it a '2x3' Christmas.


(I stopped playing the original after moving to windows 8.1. The game operated fine but higher resolution and the small ground icons got to me.)

I played the original WiTP within about a week of it's release until the day WiTP:AE was released. "AE" is a much better game in every way I can think of. Better graphics, better detail, more realism, etc. etc.

Night and day.

The original wasn't bad, but WiTP:AE has enough improvements as to qualify as a "WiTP II". When the official patches are added on, it's a major improvement on the 'stock' version too, so be sure to get the latest updates.

[RangerJoe]

I am playing scen 050, RA 8.1 with reduced cargo capacity. I still have most of the DEI except for a few cities that auto-converted from Malaysia. I have the Philipines except for Palawan and almost all of China except for Peiping/Tientsin area, I have parts of Borneo where I just captured Tarakan. I think that there is only NE Japanese CV left - they were sent into the Java Sea one or two at a time where I had LBA with American and British CV/CVLs.

It is the end of October 1942 and I have almost 50,000 points while the Japanese have almost 10,000 points.

Next time, I will do it on a harder level and even move more slowly but if something is given to me,I will take it.

[jack54]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


I played the original WiTP within about a week of it's release until the day WiTP:AE was released. "AE" is a much better game in every way I can think of. Better graphics, better detail, more realism, etc. etc.

Night and day.

The original wasn't bad, but WiTP:AE has enough improvements as to qualify as a "WiTP II". When the official patches are added on, it's a major improvement on the 'stock' version too, so be sure to get the latest updates.

Thanks [:)] ... it's a done deal![:)]

2 monster games (WitW and WitPAE) for Christmas unless my wife confiscates one to give me on Valentine's day. That's okay too; win/win at 50% either way.

[CaptBeefheart]

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

I am playing scen 050, RA 8.1 with reduced cargo capacity. I still have most of the DEI except for a few cities that auto-converted from Malaysia. I have the Philipines except for Palawan and almost all of China except for Peiping/Tientsin area, I have parts of Borneo where I just captured Tarakan. I think that there is only NE Japanese CV left - they were sent into the Java Sea one or two at a time where I had LBA with American and British CV/CVLs.

It is the end of October 1942 and I have almost 50,000 points while the Japanese have almost 10,000 points.

Next time, I will do it on a harder level and even move more slowly but if something is given to me,I will take it.

RangerJoe: Ironman Nasty scenarios are your friend.

Cheers,
CC

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: jack54

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


I played the original WiTP within about a week of it's release until the day WiTP:AE was released. "AE" is a much better game in every way I can think of. Better graphics, better detail, more realism, etc. etc.

Night and day.

The original wasn't bad, but WiTP:AE has enough improvements as to qualify as a "WiTP II". When the official patches are added on, it's a major improvement on the 'stock' version too, so be sure to get the latest updates.

Thanks [:)] ... it's a done deal![:)]

2 monster games (WitW and WitPAE) for Christmas unless my wife confiscates one to give me on Valentine's day. That's okay too; win/win at 50% either way.

Glad to hear it, jack54! Please let us know what you think after you 'digest' the game. [:)]

[Lecivius]

ORIGINAL: Commander Cody

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

I am playing scen 050, RA 8.1 with reduced cargo capacity. I still have most of the DEI except for a few cities that auto-converted from Malaysia. I have the Philipines except for Palawan and almost all of China except for Peiping/Tientsin area, I have parts of Borneo where I just captured Tarakan. I think that there is only NE Japanese CV left - they were sent into the Java Sea one or two at a time where I had LBA with American and British CV/CVLs.

It is the end of October 1942 and I have almost 50,000 points while the Japanese have almost 10,000 points.

Next time, I will do it on a harder level and even move more slowly but if something is given to me,I will take it.

RangerJoe: Ironman Nasty scenarios are your friend.

Cheers,
CC

Also, AndyMac has updated several of the AI programs. It's in the MOD forum. He was one of 'The Originals'. You gotta love something people put so much of their own personal time into, long after it went to market.