Scoring/Politics Decided Yet?

[AmiralLaurent]

Historically, China send troops to Burma. Once they were beaten here, part of them retreated to India with other Allied forces and were trained and equiped there.

The Chinese Army was huge on the paper but was more under the order of various warlords than the Allied high command, as Stilwell discovered every day during the war.

So outside the couple of divisions sent to Burma and India, Chinese units should not be under the orders of the Allied player. Rather trying to defend against the Japanese and to occupy undefended land. But a strategic war should be impossible for the Allied player in China.

I suppose it was also impossible for the Japanese.. I would say that every hex not occupied will see its production fall dramatically and soon guerilla (mainly communists) units appear and cut supply lines.
Needless to say communists and regular Chinese units may fight each other. So conquest of China outside the main ports and towns held in 1941 hould need a vast amount of ressources that won't be used in other places.

Jpan has a puppet government in Nakin and this government has Chinses troops, if I remember well one million men, but they were as bad or even worse than the Nationalist Chinese. And should be impossible to use for strategic plans, only for defense.

Same for Thai units. They should remain in defense (including the airplanes) for political reasons. Only some troops crossed the Burma fronteer to seize a disputed province in 1942.

As for NEI units, most of the men were local soldiers with a tiny European leadership. Most of the units dissolve during the defeat because the local men that became soldiers to have food and money for their family will not sacrifice their life for a lost cause. And they will not leave their country.
So NEI ground units should stay in NEI. If you take out one of these units, you will save the guns but should lose 80% of the troops.

For Philipinno units, I don't know. More soldiers will follow the Americans but certainly a good number would have stayed where they were... and become guerilla. I wonder if guerillas will be shown in this game.

Any NEI or Philipinno unit saved after the fall of their 'country' will receive no remplacement of men. In 1942 there was no big Philipinno community outside the Island as it is the case now. Same thing for the Javanese. And the Dutch were kept at home by the Reich. I suppose that Australian units will receive no more reinforcement if Australia is conquered (not that Japan is able to do that in normal circonstances but....)

[showboat1]

Chinese troops were actually flown over the Hump into India where they were trained by Chinese-speaking Americans. This, I believe they were known as the Yoke Force, was to be used to reopen the Burma Road, which they did help to do. I must agree however that Chinese troops should not be allowed off of the Asian continent, neither should air units.

[mdiehl]

But a strategic war should be impossible for the Allied player in China.

Fine with me as long as a strategic war is not possible for Japan in China, India or Australia.

[Mike Scholl]

Originally posted by mdiehl
Fine with me as long as a strategic war is not possible for Japan in China, India or Australia.

You banged that nail right on the head! These folks that
wax poetic about the possibilities of conquering such places
are out of touch with the realities of 1941 Japan.

[Capt. Harlock]

China and Australia, no. But if the Japanese had played their cards right, they could have set up a puppet government in India. Even before Gandhi's movement really got rolling, there were huge numbers of Indians unhappy with the Raj and willing to fight against it. (Gandhi himself is said to have refused to bargain with the British during WWII in the belief that the Japanese would kick them out, saying "Why take a check from a failing bank?")

Mind you, given that Japanese attitudes about their own racial superiority were quite as bad as the caucasians, the chance of them playing their political cards right were slim.