OT: Name that plane / ship

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

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Aye. Version/model type?

I'm going to bet B-1. (The one with the French engines) . Whatever it is , it's very early. Maybe a prototype.

Sorry Andre, I don't know German ww2 Air craft as well as I should. [:(]

OK, I had to research it. It's a Herschel-129-A0

Aye. I'll overlook the Google-fu on this one, Steve. [;)]

[pnzrgnral]

We have a B57 Canberra as a static display a/c here at Little Rock AFB, AR. I've yet to get close to it to read the info panel (all the static display a/c have them posted) so I don't know which version it is. However, it IS painted all black.

[Denniss]

The Hs 129 A-0 marked with number 5 should be the second preproduction a/c from a batch of 12.

[wdolson]

The requirement for the Hs-129 was to use an engine that was not strategically important to the German war effort. The initial aircraft had Argus engines which were underpowered and performance was lackluster. After the occupation of France, Gnome-Rhome radials became available and those were used on the HS-129B. It was still a bit of an under powered aircraft, but did better with the Gnome-Rhome engines, and they managed to shoe horn a 75mm onto one version which had horrible performance, but could actually fly with that big gun. Smaller caliber cannons were more effective for aerial attack, tanks were not well armored on top and a higher rate of fire gave a better opportunity to score a hit. The Ju-87G was a great tank killer, but it was very vulnerable.

I've always thought the US should have mounted a pair of 37mm guns from the P-39 in the wings of P-47s for tank hunting. There would have been a bulge, but it probably would have worked. The P-47 had enough excess power to overcome any excess drag and weight.

Bill

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

Last one for the day. Good luck with this one! [:'(]

warspite1

Further to other, totally wrong, answers - this is the Henschel 129-GORN Duh...

[JeffroK]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

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What about the FB-111?

The FB-111 was a bomber version of the F-111. There was only one squadron , the 509th BG , based at Pease AFB. (I spent a LOY of time looking at them as a kid). The F-111 was supposed to be an "all-in-one" plane , but caused no end of problems. The Developmental squadron that went to Vietnam lost 7 planes in very short order. The were with drawn from combat. (I still recall Time magazine having a cartoon with one having the "Stars and Bars" replaced with "The lemon and bars".

The B-66 was an USAF version of the Navy A-3 Sky warrior (a heavy attack CV bomber used mainly in the Nuclear delivery role. I recall some of the last couple stenciled with "Handle with care ,Property of the Smithsonian". Another had "save the whales" stenciled on it , a attribute to the Name the crews called it -"The Whale").

So the USAF really didn't have a good "night intruder" to replace the B-57, and that's why it stayed in service so long. [:)]

Sorry, I meant F-111A. It saw quite a bit of service in Vietnam (mostly via Thailand, IIRC)

Not quite the words I remember,

Now, Mr Robert Menzies was walking down the street,
And thinking of our airforce which was mostly obsolete;
"Our Canberra bombers are getting old as hell,
I'd better call up Uncle Sam and see what he can sell."

Chorus:
Oh, the F-one-double one it is a lovely plane,
It flies at twice the speed of sound and scatters bombs like rain,
It's wings go back and forward, it's the latest thing around,
It's a pity that it isn't safe to take it off the ground.

He said to Uncle Sammy, "We want to buy a plane
To save our lovely country from going down the drain;
We want to scare some Asians, so see what you can do."
The answer was, "Bob, buddy, we've got just the thing for you."

Bob said, "We'll take two dozen." The plane they had to make,
And soon they had one ready, its first flight for to take,
It whistled down the runway with a dreadful roaring sound,
And then broke up in little bits and fell back on the ground.

They sent six off to Vietnam, the country to defend,
To wipe out all the Viet Cong and cause the war to end,
But Ho Chi Min said, "Comrades, don't waste our precious shells,
These brand-new planes the Yankees have all fall down by themselves."

Now years have come and years have gone, and we all still depend
On our nice old Canberra bombers our country to defend;
The plane's prices double every time one takes a spill,
And if Sir Robert was still here, we'd make him pay the bill.

And when they are all ready, and we have paid the fee,
Our Generous Uncle Sammy will make delivery,
But I doubt if it will be much good to him or you or I,
At the present rate of accidents we've got a week's supply

[adarbrauner]

That Canberra is equipped with a relatively big black nose radome, definitely not the original ordnance of base models...for what purpose/use?

Bill Dolson:

yeah, that's the model with the Argus engines (wow, kudos), hence the two blade propeller. The Gnome Rhone is radial.

[JeffroK]

ORIGINAL: adarbrauner

That Canberra is equipped with a relatively big black nose radome, definitely not the original ordnance of base models...for what purpose/use?

Early in 1969, the Westinghouse sensor system was installed in a new nose section designed by Martin. The new nose contained a low light level television camera plus a forward-looking infrared (FLIR) set and a laser guidance system. This new equipment was operated by a specialist sitting in the rear cockpit. The relevant information was fed by the system operator into the pilot's cockpit so that he could select the appropriate combination of weapons to attack the target. The laser guidance system now made it possible to carry four 500-lb "smart bombs" on the underwing pylons. To compensate for the extra weight of the sensor equipment, the wing-mounted 20-mm cannon were deleted. The modified aircraft were redesignated B-57G, and they were easily recognizable by their bulbous "chins" that contained the low light level television equipment.

[Chickenboy]

Alright, here's today's installment. Name that plane.

ETA: Sorry about the wonky formatting. [&:]

[Denniss]

Beaufighter with underwing rocket rails

[MakeeLearn]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

Alright, here's today's installment. Name that plane.

ETA: Sorry about the wonky formatting. [&:]

Fido!

[AW1Steve]

Beaufighter MK X

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

Beaufighter MK X

Aye.

[JeffroK]

Beaufighter TF X.

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: JeffK

Beaufighter TF X.

I think technically that you are more correct, Jeff. [&o]

[JeffroK]

I just completed the Tamiya 1/48 Beaufighter TF X, regressing to my childhood.
Hate the paint job in the pic.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: JeffK

I just completed the Tamiya 1/48 Beaufighter TF X, regressing to my childhood.
Hate the paint job in the pic.

warspite1

The Whispering Death - I love that beautiful aircraft [&o] - but yes, not that version and paint job.....

[JeffroK]

In my kit was the option to make a Coastal Command version from 236 Sqn with Ocean Gray over Sky, D-Day stripes, looks nice.
That or make it as an Aussie Mk 21 with overall Foliage Green.

[warspite1]

You sexy beast

[MakeeLearn]

You sexy beast

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