Surplus of Soviet Tanks

[morvael]

Early tank corps is really small, but soon they will need a LOT of tanks. The same can be said about cavalry corps.
Try to build some more motorized/mechanized brigades, they need to gain experience so your Mechanized Corps will not start at paltry 2 CV like mine. It took ages to get them to 20+ CV
Motorcycle Regiments were (at the time I was playing) bad for the ARM pool, as the motorcycle squads were very expensive and gave little in return.

A passive period can see an increase of tanks in the pools, but you should use them up in the active period.

[DeletedUser1769703214]

ORIGINAL: morvael


Players are too passive, in other words game doesn't encourage you to attack constantly and burn your tank pool in this way.

To passive?..... you are correct

The game doesnt exactly encourage the Soviets to attack anyway. As stated before up until the end of August the Soviets take extra casualties. Added to the fact that good Germans will either surround or cause enough casualties to meet or exceed your replacements per turn. Thus the Soviets are clawing out a measly living turn to turn. When you do attack as the Soviets you take multiple 1,000's of dead casualties for maybe 100-150 Germans at best. Attack a regiment/brigade and you take the same amount of casualties as you would attacking a division (doesn't make sense, to me at least) Now if you are a Soviet attacking a German Armor division be prepared to be severely disappointed in the casualty report. If you ever get more than 15 tanks in a Soviet attack damaged or destroyed immediately go play the lottery. The losses to the armor is laughable imho. Only in defense are the Soviets rewarded with decent damage to the Germans and being passive is the only way to accomplish that damage. Otherwise the Soviets take crazy losses for just a "win" towards Guard Status and even that is limited in 41.

In the current state with current patch this game is highly weighted towards the Germans. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. Play the Soviets at your own risk. Of course that is what I am seeing but I'm sure the community can give their views and opinions too. Maybe I'm wrong.

[Stelteck]

I agree that it looks difficult to me to attrit the german by regular ground soviet assault on german divisions. (Considering that soviets cannot afford to loose much manpower and trucks).

Or at least i did not found the solution.

A solution is to manage a successful encerclement, which is better said than done. [:)]

[RforRush]

ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
In the current state with current patch this game is highly weighted towards the Germans. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. Play the Soviets at your own risk. Of course that is what I am seeing but I'm sure the community can give their views and opinions too. Maybe I'm wrong.

You're right, it takes a look into AAR section to see how easily Axis advance in most games (Moscow couple months early than reality, easy Leningrad, 10+:1 casualties etc).

To people playing from release: was there time when game were weighted towards Soviets? I thought it was always pro-Axis because most people are playing them.

[Stelteck]

ORIGINAL: RforRush
To people playing from release: was there time when game were weighted towards Soviets? I thought it was always pro-Axis because most people are playing them.

Long time ago (2014) i played a game with a friend. We were both noobs. It was release 1.07.15. A completely different world.
I remembered having so much replacement as soviet that i had always hundred of thousands of men in storage whatever the looses. Also i was able to fill my division from zero to 100% in 2 turns with immediatly decent Combat Value.
i was clearly winning end 1941. The german was down to 1500 tanks.

This was the situation spring 1942 (The german were in very bad shape in spring and unable to do any offensive):
Leningrad was german but not moscow nor roskov and the front in the center was around smolensk.



We stopped the game here.

It was funny but quite ridiculous from balance point of view.

[No idea]

ORIGINAL: Stelteck

ORIGINAL: RforRush
To people playing from release: was there time when game were weighted towards Soviets? I thought it was always pro-Axis because most people are playing them.

Long time ago (2014) i played a game with a friend. We were both noobs. It was release 1.07.15. A completely different world.
I remembered having so much replacement as soviet that i had always hundred of thousands of men in storage whatever the looses. Also i was able to fill my division from zero to 100% in 2 turns with immediatly decent Combat Value.
i was clearly winning end 1941. The german was down to 1500 tanks.

This was the situation spring 1942 (The german were in very bad shape in spring and unable to do any offensive):
Leningrad was german but not moscow nor roskov and the front in the center was around smolensk.



We stopped the game here.

It was funny but quite ridiculous from balance point of view.

In numeris terms the thing that has really changed since 1.07 is a big boost in german tanks. Now they lose far less, or production has been increased a lot. The number of men also seems too low. Were you playign with harsh winter? Soviet numbers also seem higher than patch 1.11 for spring 42.

Anyway, I think the game is now balanced so that both players can have a more or less equal chance of winning. It is not realistic, but it makes for funnier games.

[Stelteck]

ORIGINAL: No idea
In numeris terms the thing that has really changed since 1.07 is a big boost in german tanks. Now they lose far less, or production has been increased a lot. The number of men also seems too low. Were you playign with harsh winter? Soviet numbers also seem higher than patch 1.11 for spring 42.

Anyway, I think the game is now balanced so that both players can have a more or less equal chance of winning. It is not realistic, but it makes for funnier games.

Yes all options / harsh winter / Attack bonus.
The divisions were not filling the same too. I think there was no limitation around 80% TOE and rookie divisions were more efficient i think.

[morvael]

We're really close to finish the next patch. It will alter balance a bit towards higher German tank losses.

[Nuklearius]

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Wow after stripping my post of all screenshots and numbers this apparently is the only thing I'm allowed to post here. What were the forum designers thinking?