Sea Lion with v653N

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YES ! More cases of wine for the Regia Marina [:D]
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With the port of London repaired up to 5, the 6.Panzer Army HQ arrives with the first of its units, the 1.SS Panzer Korps. More panzers to follow! The infantry expands the lodgement area, 2.Army and 11.Army HQ will arrive soon. England is doomed, although it will take months to clear the island and the Commonwealth will continue to fight from its overseas possessions.

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The difference this time was definitely the weather. I know the historical records show that Sea Lion was planned for September 1940, but I bet it would have been postponed until the spring [similar to the attack on France].
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It was "postponed" because the Germans lost the Battle of Britain.
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Yeah, I missed that little point completely [X(]

Probably, the Battle of Britain was lost because Hitler turned to Barbarossa.
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Actually Hitler turned to Russia because he lost the Battle of Britain

here is one of my posts on Sealion, Interesting attack tho
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I think what people object to is the ease of Sealion attack for the Axis in SC when it was in fact not possible. Even Hitlers Generals thought it was absurd.

1) The British WON the Battle of Britain. This wasn't a fluke. The Brits had a very advanced air defense system with radar. They had an equal amount of fighters at the beginning and were producing fighters at a much faster rate than the Germans. Maybe most importantly Dowding was a genius. The Germans air had very limited range and the Brits had the huge advantage of being close to their bases. SC gives the Axis complete air superiority in the Battle of Britain which is very unrealistic. A 10 Strength Dowding airforce HQ with an 11 str fighter should appear once Germans start attacking GB.

2) In SC Sealion the Axis fills the channel with subs and controls the seas because of its large air/sub advantage. In reality Axis subs avoided the channel because the channel was shallow and was heavily mined. The RN was significantly superior to the Axis Navy in 1940, especially after Norway. There should be a penalty of 1 pt per turn for subs in the channel, like high seas

3) As I previously mentioned the Axis would have used barges to transport troops. The barges moved at 2/3 knots which would have taken 24-30 hrs to get the troops cross the channel. Even if the Axis wiped out the RAF & RN (which would have never happened) the attack would have been problematic.

Many players want some type of historical connection to the game play not gamers folly.




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Actually Hitler turned to Russia because he lost the Battle of Britain
You are way off on that statement. The German High Command began planning an invasion of the Soviet Union in July 1940. Hitler ordered the postponement of Sealion on September 17, 1940.
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