DE 603 Germany/Franco

[bullet911]

PvtB maybe you need some more playing experience? I don’t know!
If your royal navy (or some of it) is in the Gibraltar side of the med how can the axis airforce reach algiers from Sicily in 40/41? Sardinia maybe with long range researched i haven’t checked
And if the axis declare war on tunisia surely you can see how its going?

[James Taylor]

Ha! Welcome Pvt, to a world that is out of your control.[:D]

[PvtBenjamin]

Maybe numbers aren't your thing. The allies need to patrol east/NE of Algiers to see if an invasion force is coming. Run into a sub and you are well in range of Sardinia Medium/Str Bombers. After taking Malta the Axis just sends bombers to Sardinia and transports HQ. The Axis declares war and takes Algiers in that turn, no warning. So you guys are telling me you put large RN force out of port east of Gibraltar and just have ground force floating at sea. You need to play some better players.

[bullet911]

ORIGINAL: PvtBenjamin

Maybe numbers aren't your thing. The allies need to patrol east/NE of Algiers to see if an invasion force is coming. Run into a sub and you are well in range of Sardinia Medium/Str Bombers. After taking Malta the Axis just sends bombers to Sardinia and transports HQ. The Axis declares war and takes Algiers in that turn, no warning. So you guys are telling me you put large RN force out of port east of Gibraltar and just have ground force floating at sea. You need to play some better players.

UK has 2 subs and 5 carriers use them to scout

[PvtBenjamin]

And how about Egypt & Sealion?

Please lay out in more detail how you use the RN to protect GB, Egypt, Algiers and protect convoys.

So you guys are telling me you put large RN force out of port east of Gibraltar and just have ground force floating at sea. You need to play some better players.

[James Taylor]

How about an LR Naval Bombers out of Gibraltar? Did you forget the "screening force"? Garrison in transport mode are of negligible expense.

[Taxman66]

Even I have to admit that using GAR in Transports sounds awfully cheesy.

[PvtBenjamin]

All this inst some exercise on how to prevent Algiers because you know its going to happen. It fits into the total RN strategy. So you put the bomber in Gibraltar every game, Really? What are you going to do with the garrisons in transport?

An Axis bomber in Sardinia can see 6 hexes east of Algiers up to Cartagena, so I'm interested where you hide these subs and carriers to patrol.

[PvtBenjamin]

Deadweight your on if no amphib other than sealion/Southern England prior to 1942.

If you pull the same lame amphib tricks the last time we played game over

[KorutZelva]

ORIGINAL: PvtBenjamin

And how about Egypt & Sealion?

Please lay out in more detail how you use the RN to protect GB, Egypt, Algiers and protect convoys.

So you guys are telling me you put large RN force out of port east of Gibraltar and just have ground force floating at sea. You need to play some better players.

Well... on the flip side Germany ain't conquering the UK, Egypt and Algeria all at once that's for sure.

If the Axis declares on Tunisia it's time to cruise a transport towards Casablanca. Doesn't have to be a entire army group. Just a guy to plop on Casablanca as a delay. Once the intention of the axis is clear you can decide to reinforce him or not with additional units or an HQ but just getting him to chase you from that spot is a small victory of sorts. You can have naval assets protecting landings in Algiers that are out of range of Sardinian bombers. Egypt doesn't need tons of naval assets since it can rely on land based air for deterrence.

It's not the base game (and this is a 'all of france gambit') but Taifun vs Crispy current AAR shows how the UK is not powerless in providing some interdiction Algeria while having enough ships to fight the Germans in the north sea (page 2).

[bullet911]

France falls usually in june/july, ships in ports in southern england all with AA upgade (and towns) with 1 sub (to scout) some destroyers, and bigger ships around lands end, use the strat bomber and possible candian bomber to see whats going on in the french ports, attack accordingly
After 2/4 turns where sealion doesnt look likely (september/maybe october) send the navy to the med
1 sub and 2/3 carriers to Egypt others to Gibraltar. Both forces have some CA and BB’s with them
Canadian bomber to cyprus to scout above and possibly below crete
As for convoys theres not alot you can do unless you can spare some destroys but thats the last priority IMO

[PvtBenjamin]

Its over the turn that the Axis declares war. Declare war amphib units take Algiers now in Axis control, get it? Are you talking a British Amphib against Casablanca?

[PvtBenjamin]

An Axis Strategic bomber in Sardinia can recon 6 hexes west of Algiers up to Cartagena, so I'm interested where you hide these subs and carriers to patrol.

How do you know Sealion isnt going to happen a little later, so you have almost no RN near Britian?

[KorutZelva]

ORIGINAL: PvtBenjamin

Its over the turn that the Axis declares war. Declare war amphib units take Algiers now in Axis control, get it? Are you talking a British Amphib against Casablanca?

Try it vs me. I can then show you how to stop it.

[PvtBenjamin]

Wow you mean if I tell you I'm going to attack Algiers you can prevent it. Thats quite an accomplishment.

[&o] [&o]

Actually in good conscience I can't play the Nazi's because of the atrocities they preformed in the war

[crispy131313]

I've given this some more thought. Would it be feasible to have a very under strength free french unit appear at Casablanca (maybe even strength 1) upon Axis DOW so that even if Algeria surrenders to the Axis Casablanca would not. This would now require a two pronged attack on Algeria, still possible but much more difficult.

[KorutZelva]

ORIGINAL: PvtBenjamin

Wow you mean if I tell you I'm going to attack Algiers you can prevent it. Thats quite an accomplishment.

[&o][&o]

So what is it now? Is it impossible to derail or the threat of it is too much to handle for you? [:D]

[PvtBenjamin]

Actually in good conscience I can't play the Nazi's because of the atrocities they preformed in the war

[KorutZelva]

Coward. [:D]

[PvtBenjamin]

Some how I feel I'm arguing with either a juvenile or an imbecile so I will stop.

Actually in good conscience I can't play the Nazi's because of the atrocities they preformed in the war