The NVA are still holding positions in Quang Tri Province and are within striking distance of Quang Tri City,The US 5th Mech are now fully deployed and along with ARVN 1st Div they shell the NVA in preparation for an attack
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US Turn 7 I Corps AO
The NVA are still holding positions in Quang Tri Province and are within striking distance of Quang Tri City,The US 5th Mech are now fully deployed and along with ARVN 1st Div they shell the NVA in preparation for an attack
The NVA are still holding positions in Quang Tri Province and are within striking distance of Quang Tri City,The US 5th Mech are now fully deployed and along with ARVN 1st Div they shell the NVA in preparation for an attack
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Turn 7
The VC 50th Battalion has been discovered and trapped by units of the ARVN 25th Division,The ARVN use Arty to soften up the VC supported by units of the US 7th Fleet before attacking and destroying the VC
The VC 50th Battalion has been discovered and trapped by units of the ARVN 25th Division,The ARVN use Arty to soften up the VC supported by units of the US 7th Fleet before attacking and destroying the VC
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Turn 7 III Corps AO
VC are spotted operating 10km west of Tay Ninh city and are surrounded and engaged by US and ARVN forces,USAF fighter bombers lend there support and the VC battalion is destroyed for minimal losses.
VC are spotted operating 10km west of Tay Ninh city and are surrounded and engaged by US and ARVN forces,USAF fighter bombers lend there support and the VC battalion is destroyed for minimal losses.
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US Turn 8 I Corps AO
The NVA 308th Division is still active in Quang Tri province which is being defended by the ARVN 1st Div and the US 5th Mech Bde, I will go on the offensive against the NVA when my airpower has increased a bit.
The NVA 308th Division is still active in Quang Tri province which is being defended by the ARVN 1st Div and the US 5th Mech Bde, I will go on the offensive against the NVA when my airpower has increased a bit.
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US Turn 8 IV Corps AO
There is plenty of VC activity in IV Corps Area of Operations with VC units in BA XUYEN, VINH BINH, KIEN HOA, GO CONG, KIEN PHONG and CHAU DOC provinces US Airmobile units along with ARVN Rangers and PARA's are struggling to control the Delta area, The US 173rd Airmobile is resting at the moment but will be available next turn.
There is plenty of VC activity in IV Corps Area of Operations with VC units in BA XUYEN, VINH BINH, KIEN HOA, GO CONG, KIEN PHONG and CHAU DOC provinces US Airmobile units along with ARVN Rangers and PARA's are struggling to control the Delta area, The US 173rd Airmobile is resting at the moment but will be available next turn.
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US Turn 9
The VC are stepping up there activity the US and ARVN are struggling to counter this threat my air force is still very weak however with the monsoon over it will be used to assist the ground forces.
In IV Corps area the ARVN and US forces are engaged in counter gurilla operations in Phuong Dinh,Kien Hoa and Kien Tuong provinces destroying 2 VC battalions and a political section that should restore some VPs
The VC are stepping up there activity the US and ARVN are struggling to counter this threat my air force is still very weak however with the monsoon over it will be used to assist the ground forces.
In IV Corps area the ARVN and US forces are engaged in counter gurilla operations in Phuong Dinh,Kien Hoa and Kien Tuong provinces destroying 2 VC battalions and a political section that should restore some VPs
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US Turn 9 I Corps AO
The US 5th Mech Bde with support from the ARVN 1st Division sets about destroying the NVA 36th Regiment to secure its flank before planning operations to engage and destroy the bulk of the NVA 308th Division,After two rounds of airstrikes and Arty bombardments the attack goes ahead and although the NVA are destroyed the US losses are quite high.
The US 5th Mech Bde with support from the ARVN 1st Division sets about destroying the NVA 36th Regiment to secure its flank before planning operations to engage and destroy the bulk of the NVA 308th Division,After two rounds of airstrikes and Arty bombardments the attack goes ahead and although the NVA are destroyed the US losses are quite high.
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US Turn 10 I Corps AO
After the heavy losses suffered last turn the US 5th Mech Bde is on the defensive for now i think i will call up the US 11th ACR to provide some more steel to fight the NVA, In Thua Thien province the ARVN 1st Division with heavy Combat support from the USN and USAF destroy a VC battalion that has been causing some problems for the locals.
After the heavy losses suffered last turn the US 5th Mech Bde is on the defensive for now i think i will call up the US 11th ACR to provide some more steel to fight the NVA, In Thua Thien province the ARVN 1st Division with heavy Combat support from the USN and USAF destroy a VC battalion that has been causing some problems for the locals.
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US Turn 10 III Corps AO
VC activity is spreading as a VC battalion threatens Phan Thiet in Binh Thuan province, The US 173rd Airborne is transported by Helo and after several airstrikes and a ground assault they destroy the VC, After there victory the 173rd patrol along route 1 towards Xuan Loc in Long Khanh province and are ambushed by another VC units airstrikes are called in although 3 A1 Skyraiders are shot down.
VC activity is spreading as a VC battalion threatens Phan Thiet in Binh Thuan province, The US 173rd Airborne is transported by Helo and after several airstrikes and a ground assault they destroy the VC, After there victory the 173rd patrol along route 1 towards Xuan Loc in Long Khanh province and are ambushed by another VC units airstrikes are called in although 3 A1 Skyraiders are shot down.
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US Turn 11 October 1965
The US 11th ACR has arrived in theatre and will be used initialy in Quang Tri province to help the 5th Mech Bde destroy the NVA 308th Division after which it will be deployed where needed, Lets see if the VC steps up its activity in response to this call up ? I am not planning to call up any more US ground units until at least 1966
The US 11th ACR has arrived in theatre and will be used initialy in Quang Tri province to help the 5th Mech Bde destroy the NVA 308th Division after which it will be deployed where needed, Lets see if the VC steps up its activity in response to this call up ? I am not planning to call up any more US ground units until at least 1966
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Great to see you playing another AAR of this game Sapper. I will follow it with interest.
What is the current VP total.
The NLF PO is a much tougher opponent that the Free World Allies. Since the US is stuck going first so much of the game you cannot retake newly converted hexes before the NLF gets a roll and a chance to score for them for the provinces those hexes are in. The best you get for your pacification program is 3 points a turn. Holding the NLF victory total below 10 and then 40 will be extremely difficult.
What is the current VP total.
The NLF PO is a much tougher opponent that the Free World Allies. Since the US is stuck going first so much of the game you cannot retake newly converted hexes before the NLF gets a roll and a chance to score for them for the provinces those hexes are in. The best you get for your pacification program is 3 points a turn. Holding the NLF victory total below 10 and then 40 will be extremely difficult.
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Thanks for reading Narses its -4 of 200 below is a pic of the situation briefing for turn 11
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US Turn 11 III Corps AO
The VC battalion found by the 173rd last turn has been hunted down and surrounded by units of the 173rd and 12th Aviation group, The 173rds Arty bombard the VC for 2 rounds before the attack goes in the VC are wiped out.
The VC battalion found by the 173rd last turn has been hunted down and surrounded by units of the 173rd and 12th Aviation group, The 173rds Arty bombard the VC for 2 rounds before the attack goes in the VC are wiped out.
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US Turn 11 IV Corps AO
In Go Cong province ARVN and US troops conduct a search and destroy mission and manage to hunt down and destroy a political section,In Phong Dinh province ARVN Rangers from the 44th and 41st battalions destroy another political section with the help of ARVN 9th Division
In Go Cong province ARVN and US troops conduct a search and destroy mission and manage to hunt down and destroy a political section,In Phong Dinh province ARVN Rangers from the 44th and 41st battalions destroy another political section with the help of ARVN 9th Division
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US Turn 12 I Corps AO
The US 11th ACR and 5th Mech Bde bombard the NVA in Quang Tri province for several rounds inflicting heavy losses the ground assault fails with heavy losses on both sides the ARVN 1st Division has a battalion destroyed, The good news is that I have 2 regiments of the NVA 308th division surrounded,
The US 11th ACR and 5th Mech Bde bombard the NVA in Quang Tri province for several rounds inflicting heavy losses the ground assault fails with heavy losses on both sides the ARVN 1st Division has a battalion destroyed, The good news is that I have 2 regiments of the NVA 308th division surrounded,
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US Turn 12 IV Corps AO
US and ARVN forces are heavily engaged in counter guerrilla operations in Kien Hoa province a VC battalion is destroyed, A political section is surrounded and destroyed in Hau Nghia and in Tay Ninh province the VC have managed to evade the sweeps made to locate them
US and ARVN forces are heavily engaged in counter guerrilla operations in Kien Hoa province a VC battalion is destroyed, A political section is surrounded and destroyed in Hau Nghia and in Tay Ninh province the VC have managed to evade the sweeps made to locate them
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ORIGINAL: sapper32
US Turn 12 I Corps AO
The US 11th ACR and 5th Mech Bde bombard the NVA in Quang Tri province for several rounds inflicting heavy losses the ground assault fails with heavy losses on both sides the ARVN 1st Division has a battalion destroyed, The good news is that I have 2 regiments of the NVA 308th division surrounded,
Does the 5th Mech have any M109's or other 155mm arty with 4 hex range? You need something that outranges the NVA arty. Or you just have to suck up the air losses so you can reduce the NVA HQs and arty in range of your ground combats.
Something most people don't realize is that you can enter the DMZ and even the first couple of hexes into North Vietnam. You have to go 3 or 4 hexes into NVM to trigger the automatic loss for the US. The railroad engineers and HQ/arty are the most important NVA targets for you. When the NVA start fielding their front arty units (ranges up to 5 and 7 hexes) you will need the Army's 175mm guns that can reach 10 hexes at reduced strength. Until then the NVA arty will punish you until you at least get in some US divisions and their big guns or the Marine Amphibious Group which has a number of M109s and long ranged towed 155mm.
As in the actual war northern Quang Tri will involve a lot of artillery warfare on both sides.
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Page 14 of the word document for this scenario addresses the DMZ.
You can absolutely put Allied units IN the DMZ. The question is which DMZ line is the "border". The northern one or the southern one? The text says two hexes north of the border.
I recall deploying US units north of the northern DMZ line to surround NVA units.....I just can't recall how far north is safe.
It is worth testing to be sure especially before playing against a live opponent.
You can absolutely put Allied units IN the DMZ. The question is which DMZ line is the "border". The northern one or the southern one? The text says two hexes north of the border.
I recall deploying US units north of the northern DMZ line to surround NVA units.....I just can't recall how far north is safe.
It is worth testing to be sure especially before playing against a live opponent.
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Here is the Arty available to me in Quang Tri province the ARVN 105s are range 3 while the 155 howitzers are range 2, the US 5th Mech has M109s that are range 4 with an extended range of 5, I will have to find out how much that reduces the effectivness
ORIGINAL: Narses
ORIGINAL: sapper32
US Turn 12 I Corps AO
The US 11th ACR and 5th Mech Bde bombard the NVA in Quang Tri province for several rounds inflicting heavy losses the ground assault fails with heavy losses on both sides the ARVN 1st Division has a battalion destroyed, The good news is that I have 2 regiments of the NVA 308th division surrounded,
Does the 5th Mech have any M109's or other 155mm arty with 4 hex range? You need something that outranges the NVA arty. Or you just have to suck up the air losses so you can reduce the NVA HQs and arty in range of your ground combats.
Something most people don't realize is that you can enter the DMZ and even the first couple of hexes into North Vietnam. You have to go 3 or 4 hexes into NVM to trigger the automatic loss for the US. The railroad engineers and HQ/arty are the most important NVA targets for you. When the NVA start fielding their front arty units (ranges up to 5 and 7 hexes) you will need the Army's 175mm guns that can reach 10 hexes at reduced strength. Until then the NVA arty will punish you until you at least get in some US divisions and their big guns or the Marine Amphibious Group which has a number of M109s and long ranged towed 155mm.
As in the actual war northern Quang Tri will involve a lot of artillery warfare on both sides.
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Mmmm yeah I think a test incursion into North Vietnam may be a good idea, I will have to re read the documentation aswellORIGINAL: Narses
Page 14 of the word document for this scenario addresses the DMZ.
You can absolutely put Allied units IN the DMZ. The question is which DMZ line is the "border". The northern one or the southern one? The text says two hexes north of the border.
I recall deploying US units north of the northern DMZ line to surround NVA units.....I just can't recall how far north is safe.
It is worth testing to be sure especially before playing against a live opponent.
The battle of Medjerda is almost forgotten,but was fought against highly disciplined German troops and blasted a route straight to Tunis it was a perfect infiltration battle and should be remembered as the best fought British battle of the war.