New scenario for testing Operation Sapphire Fury

[AceOfSpadeszzzzzz]

One more thing I would like to mention is that H-6G with YJ-100/YJ-12 might be more suitable for this scenario rather than H-6D.
Really pleased with your work, Good Scenario![:)]
BTW if you are adding 2018 F/A-18s to this please also change the AGM-84G in RR's magazine to 84N since they don't carry 84G anymore[;)]

[magi]

this is real fun..... but darn this island is very well defended... i need more strikers/fighters.... i put a dozen f16s at clark for a cap.. and ambiance... but shoot now i think i might add some strike eagles...
i lost two aircraft probing... then gettion into a fight i didnt want... when an unseen j31 went foxtrot on me.... loosing 750 points for loosing two aircraft seems really severe.....

[daveoreno]

ORIGINAL: magi

this is real fun..... but darn this island is very well defended... i need more strikers/fighters.... i put a dozen f16s at clark for a cap.. and ambiance... but shoot now i think i might add some strike eagles...
i lost two aircraft probing... then gettion into a fight i didnt want... when an unseen j31 went foxtrot on me.... loosing 750 points for loosing two aircraft seems really severe.....

Yes it does seem harsh, but if these were stealth aircraft perhaps the cost should be steep. Also keep in mind (slight PARTIAL SPOILER) there are thousands of points awarded for certain targets and overall mission goals. You also have over a hundred Tomahawk MMT’s in your CVN SAG that are easilly capable of taking out the PLAN carrier and all ships in the group (as long as you have the correct targeting...E-3 ? Satellites?) [;)] Anyway I will work on the scoring again over the weekend.

[daveoreno]

ORIGINAL: AceOfSpadeszzzzzz

One more thing I would like to mention is that H-6G with YJ-100/YJ-12 might be more suitable for this scenario rather than H-6D.
Really pleased with your work, Good Scenario![:)]
BTW if you are adding 2018 F/A-18s to this please also change the AGM-84G in RR's magazine to 84N since they don't carry 84G anymore[;)]

Thank you for the praise! I will take a look at those H-6G’s you mentioned. What I really was looking for was something with a supersonic payload. But then again perhaps things are hard enough for the US.

[daveoreno]

I have uploaded a new file in the original post with many of the requested changes.
Some of the changes to the new upload are:

Revised scoring using Whickers great scoring script.
Appropriate points are now awarded for AEW aircraft etc. The points awarded are based on a balance between the importance of the unit in this particular scenario, the actual value of the unit in real world dollars, and trying to make the scenario play balanced.

-SH-60B’s have been switch with MH Romeo models.
-More load outs have been provided to the Cobra gunships.
-The USV sailing with the fleet is now snug in his berth in an added freedom class LCS.
-Some of the MALD load outs have been swapped with Maverick and HARM.
-Some F-18 have now been given ATFLIR load outs.
-E-2C’s on the Reagan have been swapped with the E-2D’s.
-80 LGBs listed as weapons on the wasp fixed.
-LPD cargo MANPADS changed to Stingers.
-Badger H-6D changed to H-6Gs and given supersonic ASM’s (Still no air-cover for play balance)
-various typo’s.
-Clark Airbase has been given some F-16’s from 80th Fighter Group and some P-8s. (you still need to bring the rest from Guam.
-A little surprise for the boys at Clark added.
-a few more Tomahawk MMT’s added for play balance.
-A specific ROE section added to the briefing.

Playing through this myself I definitely think it is easier if you choose the F-22 Raptor special action, as the F-22’s can clean out the island SAMS with SDBs.

Thanks again to the many suggestions and help with this. Its the help of this Command community that makes this simulation so great.

Dave

[Gunner98]

daveoreno

Looks like a very nice scenario. Just opened it up and can offer a couple very nitpicky points before I dive in. All provided in the spirit of helpfulness and not critiques:

Briefing: Very nice, complete and well crafted. A couple points:
-The Reagan is CVN 76 (not 56, typo I believe)
-The note regarding the F-22s etc is in there twice
-'...clear that these warning have not...' warning should be plural
-'...unidentified contacts or contacts not believed...' the first contact should be singular

Naming:
-some ships have the pennant number some do not
-the three PC 1 class could be named https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclone-class_patrol_ship to do this in a port you need to right click on the unit name
-this website is useful for determining which ships would be forward deployed with the Reagan https://www.public.navy.mil/surfor/Page ... Ships.aspx

Air group: the Reagan's air group can be found here: http://www.gonavy.jp/CVW-NF6f.html
-this link will help with the naming, and there is an F-18E sqn missing (12 each) - which is fine but a note in the brief to identify why may be helpful
-the HSC sqn with MH-60S (8 a/c) is also missing and they would be ideal for this type of mission set
-the HSM sqn with MH-60R (11 a/c) Sqn will have about 5-6 on the CV and the rest spread around the escort
-I find this wiki very useful https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_a ... r_Air_Wing
-determining the air wing on the Amphibs is a bit of a trick sometimes and you can really play around with them, but I often start with news releases: https://www.public.navy.mil/surfor/lhd1 ... fault.aspx

Ok enough nitpicking, I'll jump in and give it a play now.

Thanks for building this.

B

[daveoreno]

Thanks Gunner!

All changes (except the Helos ) made and uploaded.

hope you enjoy!

Dave

[Gunner98]

Someone is sniping at my innocent F-35s! Who would do such a thing! [;)]

Interesting problem

B

[Primarchx]

I don't understand why the Super Hornets would have a Standard CAP loadout in this circumstance. The Reagan's not cruising in the Gulf of Mexico, they're about to attack a Chinese position in a dangerous A2AD area.

[daveoreno]

My thinking here was that standard CAP load would provide the option of extra range if necessary. I'll change AA load outs if you think it's unrealistic.
Dave

[i224747]

The picture in the Steam workshop looks excellent. Will play it if i
ever buy COW.

[magi]

ORIGINAL: Gunner98

daveoreno

Looks like a very nice scenario. Just opened it up and can offer a couple very nitpicky points before I dive in. All provided in the spirit of helpfulness and not critiques:

Briefing: Very nice, complete and well crafted. A couple points:
-The Reagan is CVN 76 (not 56, typo I believe)
-The note regarding the F-22s etc is in there twice
-'...clear that these warning have not...' warning should be plural
-'...unidentified contacts or contacts not believed...' the first contact should be singular

Naming:
-some ships have the pennant number some do not
-the three PC 1 class could be named https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclone-class_patrol_ship to do this in a port you need to right click on the unit name
-this website is useful for determining which ships would be forward deployed with the Reagan https://www.public.navy.mil/surfor/Page ... Ships.aspx

Air group: the Reagan's air group can be found here: http://www.gonavy.jp/CVW-NF6f.html
-this link will help with the naming, and there is an F-18E sqn missing (12 each) - which is fine but a note in the brief to identify why may be helpful
-the HSC sqn with MH-60S (8 a/c) is also missing and they would be ideal for this type of mission set
-the HSM sqn with MH-60R (11 a/c) Sqn will have about 5-6 on the CV and the rest spread around the escort
-I find this wiki very useful https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_a ... r_Air_Wing
-determining the air wing on the Amphibs is a bit of a trick sometimes and you can really play around with them, but I often start with news releases: https://www.public.navy.mil/surfor/lhd1 ... fault.aspx

Ok enough nitpicking, I'll jump in and give it a play now.

Thanks for building this.

B

whata guy..... very nice of you.... some good stuff here....

[magi]

looking at this.... like it much better so far....

[Gunner98]

A few hours in and things are going well.

First priority was Air superiority. Managed to take down 8x J-31 and 6x J-15 by putting out some 4th Gen ftrs as bait and ambushing with F-35s. Lost an F-16 and and two F-18 this way but a fair exchange I think

Next was SEAD, F-16s with SDBs coming at the S-300s from behind mountains did the trick

Final stage of the prep phase didn't go as well as it could have. Since I don't play the ultra modern scenarios that often I forgot about the Machine-gun like endless Chinese SAMs! I was trying to put an end to any more naval aviation bothering my operations but the TG shot down my entire wave of TLAM MMs! Bugger. However, a couple P-8s coming in from Anderson AB and re-basing to Clark came in from the NE and managed to get a SLAMER hit on Liaoning. Not much damage but no more fixed wing flew from the deck, only helos. Over the next couple hours first one more SLAM hit then finally three (of 12) more sank her.

Recommendation: An event that sends the TG back to base when the Liaoning takes significant damage (?25%?), they wouldn't be on a suicide mission and currently they are all just milling around in the Spratly Islands.

Great game so far, now I need to start working on sorting out the ground fight, and finding those subs that were advertised.

Thanks

B

[daveoreno]

Glad to hear things are going well.
I really appreciate you giving it a try. Hearing from you is great![:)]
When you said in your recommendation:
"An event that sends the TG back to base when the Liaoning takes significant damage...", i'm not sure what group or unit your referring to as "the TG"?
regards,
Dave

[Whicker]

I think he is saying the chinese carrier group - once the carrier is damaged it should probably go home rather than stick around and get killed. I think you can do that with the Doctrine settings - withdraw and redeploy, it would just need a home port. I think.

not sure if that would be set on the group or the carrier? carrier I would guess. Though it probably isn't a bad idea for all units to go home once x damage has occurred. They can redeploy if they are repaired in time.

[Gunner98]

Yes the Chinese carrier task group.

They will need a homeport, but the doctrine setting isn't good enough in this case. It deals with individual ships, which is good as well, but I think an event triggered by damage to the carrier and then a Lua action to send them all RTB, or simply puts them on another mission back near China.

B

[daveoreno]

ORIGINAL: Gunner98

Yes the Chinese carrier task group.

They will need a homeport, but the doctrine setting isn't good enough in this case. It deals with individual ships, which is good as well, but I think an event triggered by damage to the carrier and then a Lua action to send them all RTB, or simply puts them on another mission back near China.

B

Yes...I get it. I shall add that for sure.
Thanks,
Dave

Ps Happy Halloween 🎃

[daveoreno]

I have uploaded a new file with all suggestions incorporated, including:

All Reagan's air group including MH-60S and MH-60R accounted for (Gunner98)
Standard CAP for F-18's replaced by Heavy AA loadout (Primarchx)
Chinese SAG now retreats when their CV is damaged beyond 25%. (Gunner98)

Dave

[magi]

ORIGINAL: daveoreno


I have uploaded a new file with all suggestions incorporated, including:

All Reagan's air group including MH-60S and MH-60R accounted for (Gunner98)
Standard CAP for F-18's replaced by Heavy AA loadout (Primarchx)
Chinese SAG now retreats when their CV is damaged beyond 25%. (Gunner98)

Dave

cool.....