Balkan Wars / Franco Prussian etc ?

[The Land]

To my mind the Strategic Command system works well for industrial-era conflicts with armies of millions fighting over fronts hundreds of miles long, over a duration long enough for industrial production and research to be significant.

The Franco-Prussian war and the US Civil War sort of meet these criteria (though Franco-Prussian is very short and restricted in scope, while the US Civil War runs the risk of one-counter armies encountering other one-counter armies. Earlier conflicts would probably not, in my view.

[operating]

Yes, a Franco-Prussian campaign would be my first choice for alternate scenario, Balkan Wars would be a second. Crimea would be a third. I prefer that units would be divisions or less, especially with the Balkans...

[Sugar]

I guess there's no real need for balancing shorter wars for PbEMs, I played an still play Breakthrough, especially East-Africa on german, Franco-Prussian-War on french side and the Russian Civil War.

What I`d like to see are more options regarding the difficulty settings, especially the combination of more income for the AI and scouting range, it screws naval combat completely imho. Would be nice to treat both differently.

[DonCzirr]

ORIGINAL: Sugar

I guess there's no real need for balancing shorter wars for PbEMs, I played an still play Breakthrough, especially East-Africa on german, Franco-Prussian-War on french side and the Russian Civil War.

What I`d like to see are more options regarding the difficulty settings, especially the combination of more income for the AI and scouting range, it screws naval combat completely imho. Would be nice to treat both differently.

+1 on that.

Also - the granularity of AI strength in the WW2 Grand Strategy game "Time of Fury" was very nice.

It gave the player the opportunity to tweak AI control and difficulty for every nation (major and minor) in the scenario / campaign.

That was a welcomed feature.


Edit : I realize such things are out of scope for the current release since it will (hopefully) be out very soon. These items however would be great to see in addition to some of the DLC ideas already mentioned in this sub-forum.

[stockwellpete]

I would be interested in everything between 1850 and 1950, most especially the Russian and Spanish Civil Wars. The wars of German Unification (including Denmark, Austria and France), the Boer War and the Balkans prior to 1914 would also get my money.

[BillRunacre]

Just want to say thanks for all the thoughts so far, it's an interesting thread.

[Gunja]

I don't know, if it would be better to open a new thread, but I felt that my wish, which I have for a long time now, is somehow connected, so here it goes:
I would love to see not only in the upcoming SC WWI, but also in EAW and WAW a couple of scenarios we had in the older versions of the game. By this I mean the other regions/wars as mentioned in this thread, but also smaller or more limited scenarios on an operational scale (Barbarossa as the biggest one, Operation Torch, the invasion of Normandy...) and what if scenarios like in Patton drives east. While the new versions of the game are obviously better than the older ones, there a two reasons, why I return to the old ones from time to time:
First, the variety of scenarios is in itself a huge plus. I even started SC Weapons and Warfare a while ago, just to play the Spanish Civil War scenario.
Seecond, the limited scale of the games and especially of the scenarios. It is sometimes just fun, to play a game for an evening or two and (almost) finishing it.

Actually in my opinion a combination of these advantages with the new engine and mechanics would be great.

[DonCzirr]

I get the feeling that if the SC3 releases continue to well, we may see (eventually) all the packages from the SC2 catalog.

I hope that is true.

I really enjoyed the smaller / limited scope operations in SC2 (W & W, AOC, Pacific Theater etc).

With the SC3 engine and perhaps inclusion of new naval mods - they would be truly exciting.

[FOARP]

ORIGINAL: The Land

To my mind the Strategic Command system works well for industrial-era conflicts with armies of millions fighting over fronts hundreds of miles long, over a duration long enough for industrial production and research to be significant.

The Franco-Prussian war and the US Civil War sort of meet these criteria (though Franco-Prussian is very short and restricted in scope, while the US Civil War runs the risk of one-counter armies encountering other one-counter armies. Earlier conflicts would probably not, in my view.

This. The entire point of this game-series is large-scale industrial warfare. The ACW and Franco-Prussian wars involved industrial production but the battles were so much smaller in terms of scale (the union lines at Gettysburg were ~5 miles long, the French lines at Sedan not much longer). Any other earlier war that might be mentioned will be even less relevant to this game engine.

[Sugar]

While I agree in general to the abilities of the game engine, the named scenarios are designed nevertheless very nicely to fit the requirements. Personally I prefer the SCWW1 Breakthrough scenario of the Russian Civil War over the AGEOD-title, allthough the entire game is based on this conflict.

No reason why this shouldn`t be the case in the new SCWW1 imho. And btw, it shows perfectly the different approach of the developers to their product. The conclusion after playing most of the AGEOD-titles is the impression that your getting immature products for high prices and getting left alone, while Bill and Hubert are caring for their children even years after release.

They should both get the order of the "Hero of the Grand-Strategy-Community mit Eichenlaub, Schwertern und Brillianten"!

[BillRunacre]

ORIGINAL: Sugar

... while Bill and Hubert are caring for their children even years after release.

They should both get the order of the "Hero of the Grand-Strategy-Community mit Eichenlaub, Schwertern und Brillianten"!

Thanks Sugar, that put a smile on my face. [:)]

[Hubert Cater]

Same for me as well Sugar, thank you, much appreciated [8D]

[vonspee]

I would like to add my desire for further campaigns within the new game engine for the WW1 era. As mentioned already, The Russian Civil War, Balkan Wars, Ottoman-Italian War would be great additions. I would also like to see a representation of the conflict on colonial fronts. The German East Africa campaign would be a great scenario, as well as the battle of Tsingtao. A strictly naval scenario based on the German Asiatic Squadron's efforts throughout 1914 could allow us to wage cruiser and prize warfare on the Pacific and Indian Oceans - perhaps not within the scope of this build, but maybe you will give WW1 the global treatment one day [&o]

Earlier wars would also be an asset. I always enjoyed playing the Franco-Prussian War scenario in the Classic release. If that could be added, perhaps the whole period leading up to German unification could be considered as well: war with Austria and Denmark prior to the final round with France. The American Civil War and Crimea also come to mind.

I would also like to add that Fury Software has really been doing military history a great service through your design and ongoing support of your wargames. These games are a great way to educate people on the history. You guys are doing a bang-up job!

[shri]

+ for Franco-Prussian and Russo-Japanese add ons

[PanzerCro]

So, is new Strategic Command on the horizont ? WW3 would be logical next version

[FOARP]

ORIGINAL: PanzerCro

So, is new Strategic Command on the horizont ? WW3 would be logical next version

They did a "Patton Drives East" DLC for SC2 which I think was basically what you're asking for?

Personally, I'd be happy also to see them breaking some new ground rather than just re-doing the expansions for SC2. Maybe War of the Worlds or something like that? HG Wells's copyright expired at the end of 2016. Or maybe some other alternative history scenarios?

"Strategic Command: War in Asia" is also an option I guess. However, naval warfare would have to be substantially improved if it were to be made the centre of the game. Also, AI in every war game find amphibious operations very hard to implement.

China in the 1930's and 40's is an interesting option. The political aspect of it might be hard to model, though, and the war in China had many aspects that are hard to model. The same goes for the Russian civil war, which I think would be very interesting.

The Balkan wars are also possible, I suppose, and haven't been done before, though the switching of sides between the first and second Balkan Wars makes them difficult to model in a single scenario.

Anything nuclear-age is always going to have the disadvantage of MAD basically ending the game. Strategic Command is not a peace-time game so peace-time scenarios are out of the window as well.

[The Land]

Just seeing this thread again - my 1911 scenario includes the setup for the First Balkan War, because of the timeframe. It's very unlikely it would play out the same way in the scenario, but not entirely impossible (you'd need the Anglo-German-Austrian alliance to diplo Serbia onto their side before the Russians do an anti-British deal with the Ottomans to get Serbia, Greece and Bulgaria all on the same side; and of course you'd get great power troops showing up).

I 100% agree a smaller scale scenario for the Balkan Wars would be a great idea...

[PanzerCro]

I would like to see Strategic Command with both, Balkan Wars and Franco-Prussian war in one game, two diffirent campaigns.

[Tanaka]

American Civil War please!

[BiteNibbleChomp]

Not sure that I have anything to offer for the Balkan Wars, but if you have SC2's WWI game then you might be interested in my Civil War and Napoleon mods? Links in my sig
Come to think of it, SC2 had a Balkan War scenario. Never managed to win it

- BNC