Hey---didn't they just make a great mini-series about this? Something about a nuclear accident that wasn't and it only released a...TINY...amount of radiation...
From the early-80s to today, things seemingly don't change in Mother Russia.
OT: Russian missile explosion and radioactive fallout
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ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury
I had a hard time finding that news on "Russia Today", instead I got an article on how wonderful this new Mig-41 stealth, hypersonic, 10th generation fighter bomber interceptor would be
Apparently they are planning to build ~10,000 by 2020
Russia Today-fake news.
I live in Russia, after the collapse of the USSR Russia lost a lot, now very often you can see on the news how Russian missiles fall. I do not believe that under the current government, Russia will be able to build 100 such aircraft, and that most of them will be made of plywood and the money will be stolen by the mafia from officials.
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Sorry for my english
Na Zdorovie
Don't ask me for any more than that!
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I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia ChildRE: OT: Russian missile explosion and radioactive fallout
ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
quote:
ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury
I had a hard time finding that news on "Russia Today", instead I got an article on how wonderful this new Mig-41 stealth, hypersonic, 10th generation fighter bomber interceptor would be
Apparently they are planning to build ~10,000 by 2020
Russia Today-fake news.
I live in Russia, after the collapse of the USSR Russia lost a lot, now very often you can see on the news how Russian missiles fall. I do not believe that under the current government, Russia will be able to build 100 such aircraft, and that most of them will be made of plywood and the money will be stolen by the mafia from officials.
_____________________________
Sorry for my english
Na Zdorovie
Don't ask me for any more than that!
Hum. If I may...
When written like that, it's actually Polish.
[:D] [;)]
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This is on TOP of : NOV 15 (ish) 2017
Less debated fact but the 'bloom' was measured all over Europe and as far away as the Caribbean
Same old 'Soviet mentality' leadership; more evidence of their technological ineptness.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... dent-claim
A secretive Russian nuclear facility has denied it was behind high atmospheric concentrations of the radioactive isotope ruthenium-106, after Russia’s meteorological service confirmed levels several hundred times the norm were found in several locations in the country during tests in late September.
Greenpeace has called for an investigation into a potential cover-up of a nuclear accident after Russia’s nuclear agency had denied European reports of increased ruthenium-106 levels. Rosgidromet, the weather monitoring service, released test data on Monday that showed levels were indeed much higher than normal. The most potent site was Argayash in the south Urals, where levels were 986 times the norm.
Less debated fact but the 'bloom' was measured all over Europe and as far away as the Caribbean
Same old 'Soviet mentality' leadership; more evidence of their technological ineptness.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... dent-claim
A secretive Russian nuclear facility has denied it was behind high atmospheric concentrations of the radioactive isotope ruthenium-106, after Russia’s meteorological service confirmed levels several hundred times the norm were found in several locations in the country during tests in late September.
Greenpeace has called for an investigation into a potential cover-up of a nuclear accident after Russia’s nuclear agency had denied European reports of increased ruthenium-106 levels. Rosgidromet, the weather monitoring service, released test data on Monday that showed levels were indeed much higher than normal. The most potent site was Argayash in the south Urals, where levels were 986 times the norm.
A People that values its privileges above it's principles will soon loose both. Dwight D Eisenhower.
RE: OT: Russian missile explosion and radioactive fallout
Hum. If I may...
When written like that, it's actually Polish.
My step-mother's family came from what is now Poland. She could converse with someone from Minsk if they talked slowly. The languages are very similar.
Seek peace but keep your gun handy.
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia ChildRE: OT: Russian missile explosion and radioactive fallout
Aye, the beauty of Slavic languages [;)]
From where I come from crossing the border means giving up on mutual understanding - and where I live, driving 60km would amount to the same if it wasn't for standard mandarin (which is pretty much the local equivalent to standard galactic or galactic basic [:D])
From where I come from crossing the border means giving up on mutual understanding - and where I live, driving 60km would amount to the same if it wasn't for standard mandarin (which is pretty much the local equivalent to standard galactic or galactic basic [:D])
RE: OT: Russian missile explosion and radioactive fallout
I can cross the border to another country here and fit right in. That is the beauty of where I live. While people look fondly on where their ancestors came from and keep their ethnic heritages alive, they know that they belong here now.
Seek peace but keep your gun handy.
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia ChildRE: OT: Russian missile explosion and radioactive fallout
Back to the topic...some funny business
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/201 ... alled-off/
Evacuation of village near explosion of nuclear cruise-missile engine called off
Residents asked to leave town for a few hours while unspecified "activities" take place.
In the wake of an apparent explosion of the nuclear-powered engine of an experimental cruise missile, the Russian government has reportedly evacuated residents of a nearby village. According to local media, residents of Nyonoska, the site of a Russian missile testing facility, were told to evacuate and that a "special" passenger train would move residents to a safe distance during some sort of military operation—possibly an effort to retrieve the nuclear reactor involved in the accident. But just hours before that evacuation was to take place, the Russian government cancelled the operation.
On August 13, Russian news outlet TV 29 reported that residents of Nyonoska were saying that they had been told they would be evacuated from 5am to 7am local time today, in what TV 29 jokingly referred to as "a new stage in the development of Arctic tourism." Authorities in Severodvinsk told Interfax that the movement of civilians was because of "planned activities" at the Nyonoska testing range. But that evening, acting head of Severodvinsk, Irina Sakharova, said that the activities were called off and that "everything is to be carried out in a regular, planned mode."
After the accident on August 8, radiation levels in the village were reported to be three times the normal background levels (to borrow a phrase, this is not great but not terrible). A similar spike was seen in the nearby city of Severodvinsk.
Another local news outlet (News Nord) reported that some of the victims of the explosion had been brought to Arkhangelsk Regional Clinical Hospital and that "everything that was connected with their admission and assistance was sealed." Doctors had to sign non-disclosure papers, according to the report, and were not warned that the patients may have had radioactive debris on them.
"After the operation, the surgeon's apron squeaked when checking on the radiation diagnostic apparatus," News Nord reported. "Now everyone who somehow contacted the victims was taken to Moscow for examination."
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/201 ... alled-off/
Evacuation of village near explosion of nuclear cruise-missile engine called off
Residents asked to leave town for a few hours while unspecified "activities" take place.
In the wake of an apparent explosion of the nuclear-powered engine of an experimental cruise missile, the Russian government has reportedly evacuated residents of a nearby village. According to local media, residents of Nyonoska, the site of a Russian missile testing facility, were told to evacuate and that a "special" passenger train would move residents to a safe distance during some sort of military operation—possibly an effort to retrieve the nuclear reactor involved in the accident. But just hours before that evacuation was to take place, the Russian government cancelled the operation.
On August 13, Russian news outlet TV 29 reported that residents of Nyonoska were saying that they had been told they would be evacuated from 5am to 7am local time today, in what TV 29 jokingly referred to as "a new stage in the development of Arctic tourism." Authorities in Severodvinsk told Interfax that the movement of civilians was because of "planned activities" at the Nyonoska testing range. But that evening, acting head of Severodvinsk, Irina Sakharova, said that the activities were called off and that "everything is to be carried out in a regular, planned mode."
After the accident on August 8, radiation levels in the village were reported to be three times the normal background levels (to borrow a phrase, this is not great but not terrible). A similar spike was seen in the nearby city of Severodvinsk.
Another local news outlet (News Nord) reported that some of the victims of the explosion had been brought to Arkhangelsk Regional Clinical Hospital and that "everything that was connected with their admission and assistance was sealed." Doctors had to sign non-disclosure papers, according to the report, and were not warned that the patients may have had radioactive debris on them.
"After the operation, the surgeon's apron squeaked when checking on the radiation diagnostic apparatus," News Nord reported. "Now everyone who somehow contacted the victims was taken to Moscow for examination."
RE: OT: Russian missile explosion and radioactive fallout
Maybe put some luminescent paint around so it will glow in the dark . . .
Seek peace but keep your gun handy.
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia ChildRE: OT: Russian missile explosion and radioactive fallout
ORIGINAL: Zorch
..." Authorities in Severodvinsk told Interfax that the movement of civilians was because of "planned activities" at the Nyonoska testing range.
.... "everything that was connected with their admission and assistance was sealed."
.... "Now everyone who somehow contacted the victims was taken to Moscow for examination."
Using best non inflammatory political voice : Russian Democracy at work
A People that values its privileges above it's principles will soon loose both. Dwight D Eisenhower.
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RE: OT: Russian missile explosion and radioactive fallout
Ah, the gift / story that keeps on giving:
Upshot: Probably a cloud of radioactive material spreading across Russia, albeit slowly. Coming soon to a town near you?
The Wall Street Journal 8.19.19:
The number of Russian nuclear-monitoring stations that have gone silent has doubled to four, an international arms-control official said on Monday, heightening concerns among observers that Russia is trying to hide evidence from an explosion at a missile-test site this month.
Russian monitoring stations designed to detect nuclear radiation at the towns of Bilibino and Zalesovo stopped transmitting data on Aug. 13, Lassina Zerbo, the executive director of the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Organization, told The Wall Street Journal.
Those data disruptions occurred three days after two other nearby monitoring stations, at Dubna and Kirov, went silent.
“Experts continue to reach out to our collaborators in Russia to resume operations as expediently as possible,” Mr. Zerbo wrote in an email.
The revelation comes a day after the Journal reported that two Russian monitoring stations designed to detect nuclear radiation went silent soon after the explosion.
The reduction of data limits the ability of nations outside Russia to learn more about the nuclear-powered system that experts believe was being tested during the accident.
The manned monitoring stations are part of an international network of hundreds of stations set up to verify compliance with the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, which prohibits nuclear-weapons tests globally.
Participating nations, including Russia, are responsible for running the stations, which share data on a continuous basis with the Vienna-based Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Organization.
Although the treaty has yet to legally take effect, Russia has said it rigorously adheres to the accord.
Arms-control experts said they believe Russia is trying to conceal information about the nuclear technology that was involved in the Aug. 8 accident at a test site in northwest Russia, which President Trump has said involved a nuclear-powered cruise missile.
Experts said they don’t believe the device was carrying a nuclear warhead or that Russia’s aim was to hide any clandestine nuclear-weapons test.
The plume from the explosion has been moving across Russia, according to a projection by Mr. Zerbo’s organization.
Some Western officials have speculated that this may account for Russia’s apparent decision to suspend test-ban-monitoring data transmissions from more stations.
A monitoring station that detects radiation at Ussuriysk—located in Russia’s Far East thousands of miles from the explosion—still transmits data, said Mr. Zerbo, who has declined to speculate on the reasons for the interruption.
Officials at the Russian Embassy in Washington referred questions to authorities in Moscow, who didn’t respond.
Upshot: Probably a cloud of radioactive material spreading across Russia, albeit slowly. Coming soon to a town near you?
The Wall Street Journal 8.19.19:
The number of Russian nuclear-monitoring stations that have gone silent has doubled to four, an international arms-control official said on Monday, heightening concerns among observers that Russia is trying to hide evidence from an explosion at a missile-test site this month.
Russian monitoring stations designed to detect nuclear radiation at the towns of Bilibino and Zalesovo stopped transmitting data on Aug. 13, Lassina Zerbo, the executive director of the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Organization, told The Wall Street Journal.
Those data disruptions occurred three days after two other nearby monitoring stations, at Dubna and Kirov, went silent.
“Experts continue to reach out to our collaborators in Russia to resume operations as expediently as possible,” Mr. Zerbo wrote in an email.
The revelation comes a day after the Journal reported that two Russian monitoring stations designed to detect nuclear radiation went silent soon after the explosion.
The reduction of data limits the ability of nations outside Russia to learn more about the nuclear-powered system that experts believe was being tested during the accident.
The manned monitoring stations are part of an international network of hundreds of stations set up to verify compliance with the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, which prohibits nuclear-weapons tests globally.
Participating nations, including Russia, are responsible for running the stations, which share data on a continuous basis with the Vienna-based Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Organization.
Although the treaty has yet to legally take effect, Russia has said it rigorously adheres to the accord.
Arms-control experts said they believe Russia is trying to conceal information about the nuclear technology that was involved in the Aug. 8 accident at a test site in northwest Russia, which President Trump has said involved a nuclear-powered cruise missile.
Experts said they don’t believe the device was carrying a nuclear warhead or that Russia’s aim was to hide any clandestine nuclear-weapons test.
The plume from the explosion has been moving across Russia, according to a projection by Mr. Zerbo’s organization.
Some Western officials have speculated that this may account for Russia’s apparent decision to suspend test-ban-monitoring data transmissions from more stations.
A monitoring station that detects radiation at Ussuriysk—located in Russia’s Far East thousands of miles from the explosion—still transmits data, said Mr. Zerbo, who has declined to speculate on the reasons for the interruption.
Officials at the Russian Embassy in Washington referred questions to authorities in Moscow, who didn’t respond.
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Maybe where the now silent detectors are, the people are all dead . . . [;)]
Seek peace but keep your gun handy.
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child