Really, really OT: Source of Light Pollution in ND?

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

2013

A Mysterious Patch Of Light Shows Up In The North Dakota Dark

https://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2 ... akota-dark

Great article. Thanks for the link.

Responded late, as usual.

The picture posted was interesting. You can see the same sort of diffuse light pattern in West Texas. Similar flaring of gas there too.

[Scott_USN]

I watched that NASA video in the story about Dark Earth, well Italians must be scared of the dark because it is almost like one big light!

[Anachro]

Bakken Shale

[geofflambert]

It's hard to beat Montana for the night sky, even the day sky. The cirrus clouds are so close you think you can reach up and touch them. The blue is dark and you can see some stars in full daylight.

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

It's hard to beat Montana for the night sky, even the day sky. The cirrus clouds are so close you think you can reach up and touch them. The blue is dark and you can see some stars in full daylight.

Hai! Chickenboy-san has it on good authority that the stars at night are big and bright...deep in the heart of Texas.

Be sure to put San Antonio on your bucket list for 2024-a full solar eclipse will be running right through my neck of the woods. Supposed to be a zone of total eclipse for 4 minutes and 28 seconds-longer than 2017 was in Kentucky.

https://nationaleclipse.com/maps.html

[Insano]

The silo looking things are oil storage tanks. They are all over the midwest from Texas to Canada.

[Zorch]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Hai! Chickenboy-san has it on good authority that the stars at night are big and bright...deep in the heart of Texas.

Be sure to put San Antonio on your bucket list for 2024-a full solar eclipse will be running right through my neck of the woods. Supposed to be a zone of total eclipse for 4 minutes and 28 seconds-longer than 2017 was in Kentucky.

https://nationaleclipse.com/maps.html

I wonder what happened in prehistoric times - did entire tribes go blind during solar eclipses? [&:]

[pontiouspilot]

Oh come on guys....ND is covered in oil production sites....Bakken oil. I'm guessing that they are still getting away with flaring. We used to do that but largely quit years ago.

Notwithstanding that I cannot think of a better spot to to do star gazing at night. Just remember that it doesn't get dark until late in the summer.

[RangerJoe]

I personally think that the best place to look for heavenly bodies would be at a beach . . .

[HansBolter]

I should have thought about it a bit more before posting.

The ICBMs are in hardened underground silos not sitting on above ground launch derricks. [8|]

The first post picture illustrates why we chose the property we did.

The club dark sky site near Dade City is not really very dark, but is conveniently close to the Tampa Bay area.

Our friend Matt Terry's property is an order of magnitude darker than the club site and was where we had been going for our monthly new moon outings prior to acquiring our own property.

Our new site is two orders of magnitude darker than Matt's property. It is one mile east of the western edge of the Goethe State Forest which comprises the south east area of what is known as the Gulf Hammock. The hammock is the darkest area in all of Florida. It is much darker than the Everglades. The sky glow from Miami spreads two thirds of the way across the Everglades.

Our sky along the hammock is the darkest I have ever seen in Florida with the summer Milky Way a solid bar of light from tree line to tree line. We couldn't be happier with it.

[RangerJoe]

Now you know why photo recon, especially in WWII, was so difficult to see exactly what was going on. Especially if it was technoligically new such as the V1 and V2.

[rustysi]

Its a freakin' fracking site.[:D]

BTW, I hear North Korea is pretty dark at night.[:'(]

[alanschu]

I remember running into this when you look in the middle of northern, central Russia. My friend and I were wondering why a country's worth of lights was there and I believe it's all tied to oil extraction developments as well.

EDIT: What I find interesting is how intensely my region (Edmonton, Alberta, Canada) really shows how our utilities providers meant it when they wanted to make our region one of the brightest.

[HansBolter]

ORIGINAL: rustysi

BTW, I hear North Korea is pretty dark at night.[:'(]

Decidedly so. However, it doesn't look like much star gazing takes place in the islands of Japan or South Korea.

[MakeeLearn]

As usual, I'am in the dark.

[Zorch]

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

As usual, I'am in the dark.

But no one has dumped fertilizer on you (yet). [:D]

[rustysi]

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

ORIGINAL: rustysi

BTW, I hear North Korea is pretty dark at night.[:'(]

Decidedly so. However, it doesn't look like much star gazing takes place in the islands of Japan or South Korea.

Now if we could just get past 'lil Kim', I bet you'd get some good looks at the night sky.[:D]

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: rustysi

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

ORIGINAL: rustysi

BTW, I hear North Korea is pretty dark at night.[:'(]

Decidedly so. However, it doesn't look like much star gazing takes place in the islands of Japan or South Korea.

Now if we could just get past 'lil Kim', I bet you'd get some good looks at the night sky.[:D]

It isn't a problem getting by him to visit there - but trying to leave can sometimes be an issue. And just carrying a bible can get you jailed for life.

[pontiouspilot]

Fracking doesn’t by itself create any light sources. Only lights associated with the process or more likely rampant flaring off would create that kind of light. 20 years ago our night skies were full of such flare stacks but it has largely been banned up here for years.

[CaptBeefheart]

I used to live in Busan (except we called it Pusan back then). From my backyard I had a nice view of the very, very massively lit squid boats off the coast. That's what you see off the coast of Busan, Ulsan and Pohang if anyone is curious.

Cheers,
CB