Submitted: The Missiles of October Part Deux, 2020

[crazydunc]

No Worries!

I didn't get any further EAMs or scenario end remarks after 6th at 1416 z. Unsure if that is correct?

I think... I have killed all the targets. Currently running Global Hawks below the cloud deck to confirm.

[BeirutDude]

Both problems you pointed out should be fixed (along with a few that cropped up for me). Be in version 3 hen I post it. Thanks!

[crazydunc]

ORIGINAL: BeirutDude

Both problems you pointed out should be fixed (along with a few that cropped up for me). Be in version 3 hen I post it. Thanks!

Both problems you pointed out should be fixed (along with a few that cropped up for me). Be in version 3 hen I post it. Thanks!

Awesome, very much enjoyed it, will look out for v3!

Dunc

[BeirutDude]

Last EAM is then, what time did you launch your attack?

[BeirutDude]

Curious, what time did you launch your attack and did you use nukes?

[Excroat3]

Also just completed the scenario. Very fast and furious, I liked it! Here's my comments

Kinda frustrating that you are ordered to launch your attacks 2 hours before your bombers are ready, but I ended up not using them anyways. If you were to add a timer (EDIT: you do have a timer there! Didn't see that. In this case, maybe then add a message saying that they will fire after being provoked or something?) between the time you are supposed to launch your attacks and the missiles actually firing, this could dissuade the player from waiting until their bombers are ready.

Tomahawks are your best friend! Launching all 154 from the Ohio, as well as around 90 from the destroyers, I was able to take out every target of note (including airport runways) on the island. F-16 HARM strikes at low level, coupled with Growlers and F-35s jamming up top, left the S-400s with little to no reaction time, and the rest of the SAMs were also mopped up in short order by either more Tomahawks or SDBs.

I never used half the F-22s, the F/A-18Cs, the A-10s, or any of the bombers. If you want to make it more challenging, I would recommend removing some of these (or just giving me less tomahawks). As it stands, you can simply run the S-400s out of missiles and move in, but who's to say that not the US's actual plan when it comes to dealing with this SAM?

I liked the EAM's and the build up of tension. However, I never got a message once my objectives were complete. I also would have appreciated a message when the time came to execute the strike, just to remind the player that it's go time.

Overall, I had a ton of fun with this one. You are highly rewarded as long as you can keep the Russians and Cubans unaware of your intentions until the last second, otherwise you are in for a tough time! It encourages players to plan and work on their TOT skills. Great work!

[crazydunc]

ORIGINAL: BeirutDude

Curious, what time did you launch your attack and did you use nukes?

Sorry for the delay, I actually went to bed for once!

I launched late, at 0200 to make use of my Bombers. I never got Authorisation for Nukes, and I didn't see Targets launch anything at all.

[BeirutDude]

Thanks! Going to take Excroat3's advice and eliminate some U.S. assets. The best part of this one, unlike what I do in other scenarios, all of the units don't have a VP value, only High value targets so it allows me to adjust it without affecting the VP calculations.

[BeirutDude]

Also just completed the scenario. Very fast and furious, I liked it! Here's my comments

Thank you for your help!

Kinda frustrating that you are ordered to launch your attacks 2 hours before your bombers are ready, but I ended up not using them anyways.

Yeah, I'm going to fix that timing in the message traffic.

If you were to add a timer (EDIT: you do have a timer there! Didn't see that. In this case, maybe then add a message saying that they will fire after being provoked or something?) between the time you are supposed to launch your attacks and the missiles actually firing, this could dissuade the player from waiting until their bombers are ready.

I can add more meat in this area of the scenario maybe add more randomness to potential Russian missile launch.

Tomahawks are your best friend! Launching all 154 from the Ohio, as well as around 90 from the destroyers, I was able to take out every target of note (including airport runways) on the island. F-16 HARM strikes at low level, coupled with Growlers and F-35s jamming up top, left the S-400s with little to no reaction time, and the rest of the SAMs were also mopped up in short order by either more Tomahawks or SDBs.

Over saturating the defense was one strategy I looked at and I I actually did it myself in play testing. That said, even though the U.S. likely will have them available in a real world scenario, I am going to eliminate the USS Georgia to make the scenario more challenging. That takes 154 Tomahawks out of the mix.

I never used half the F-22s, the F/A-18Cs, the A-10s, or any of the bombers. If you want to make it more challenging, I would recommend removing some of these (or just giving me less tomahawks). As it stands, you can simply run the S-400s out of missiles and move in, but who's to say that not the US's actual plan when it comes to dealing with this SAM?

(or just giving me less tomahawks)

OR BOTH! Will pair back a bit on the aircraft as well and if things swing too far to the Cuba/Russia side can add some back in.

but who's to say that not the US's actual plan when it comes to dealing with this SAM?

Think that is what the ADM-141A/B/C TALDs and ADM-160 MALDs are for!

I liked the EAM's and the build up of tension. However, I never got a message once my objectives were complete. I also would have appreciated a message when the time came to execute the strike, just to remind the player that it's go time.

Will add more EAMs

Overall, I had a ton of fun with this one. You are highly rewarded as long as you can keep the Russians and Cubans unaware of your intentions until the last second, otherwise you are in for a tough time! It encourages players to plan and work on their TOT skills. Great work!

Glad you enjoyed it and think we will make it better here.

Al

[BeirutDude]

Changed just about everything in the list. Will post after I check some of the changes out. Made the potential Russian missile launch more potential with more opportunities for it to happen. 2 chances of 5% and 14 of 10%.

[BeirutDude]

Version 3.

All the changes above plus...

1. Assigned ports to the USN Vessels (really its the Tornado and USCG Cutters who need them)
2. Added a few new Single Unit Ports.

[Selchu]

I'll have a look at V3 in a bit but for me personally, more EAMS to tell us when the shooting should start and some more Russians. MY only loses were to running out of fuel.

Apart from that still can't get those decoys to work on the B-52s (never have and probably never will lol)

Awesome wee scenario. Cheers

[BeirutDude]

More EAms were added.

As to the decoys, I messaged the developers when I did the Incirlik Scenario. You have to manually BOL launch them! Neat thing is after they are launched you can control them in flight to some extent.

Al

[Selchu]

ORIGINAL: BeirutDude


As to the decoys, I messaged the developers when I did the Incirlik Scenario. You have to manually BOL launch them! Neat thing is after they are launched you can control them in flight to some extent.

Al

I tried manual launching......F1 and they still wouldn't launch....Hmmm

[BeirutDude]

Control+F1 for a Bearing Only Launch (BOL)

[BeirutDude]

Another BOL example over the Gulf

[Selchu]

I had tried that too and it didn't work............I'll try again.......About to download V3

[BeirutDude]

So playing with it and the D-EMP weapons aren't available, only in the professional version. Will remove them from teh Magazines.

The O-EMP weapons work. I have ben able to launch both the ADM-160B/C MALD version versions. The J can be directed the with "plot course."

[Selchu]

Looks good. Played it through last night.
Ran into a couple of things, The Russians kicked the whole thing off early when I sent my recon drones towards Cuba. That meant I had to get my AAW patrol going early. Took some loses there but not as many as they took.
For some reason I couldn't get my DDG and LCS to go above 13 knots when grouped. That might have been me though.
and I also kicked the bombing campaign off an hour early because I had several gins and forgot it was 0300 I was supposed to attack at.
Apart from that looks good man. Will rerun again later. Only other suggestion I would offer is spare weapons for everyone at Homestead. I had ferried alot of my aircraft down there and when they landed eg F15s which I was using for AAW there wasn't enough AMRAAMs to rearm them.

[AndrewJ]

The 13 knot issue may be because the 'avoid cavitation' tick box has been checked, either on one of the ships individually, or on the group as a whole. I've had that problem before.