MM (Allied) vs HB (Axis) HB Welcome

[stjeand]

Unless you are planning counter attacks or need units for fast movement around which is always nice...you may want to garrison as many inf as possible. The new +2 AT is nice especially on big French corps.

In my game against ncc...I attacked Vichy and lost 5 armor attacking the capital...took it but that is expensive.

And the actual French units are even stronger than the Vichy.

BUT have not tested this too much yet. The air bug is causing issues.

[MagicMissile]

Hello,

Yes I might put all French on garrison. But I was thinking nice to at least have the ability to try and make the occasional counterattack. For obvious reasons I am loth to put the UK units in garrison mode I want them to come home [:)].

We will see how it plays out but I feel that this +2 gun might be a bit too good especially with nerf of Supply trucks.

[stjeand]

Yes I am concerned about France and a bit with Russia.
The change is good for Russia...maybe too good, time will tell...and for Germany / Italy late war.

BUT the change that makes units take less losses and more efficiency will be HUGE against Germany, along with the supply truck change.

France was already tough depending upon what was built. I always built the French armor for a counter attack but defense might be better...letting them build just infantry and putting most in garrison, other than the 50% exp from the M-line...
I guess we will see.

Did your infantry in Lux stay or get attacked?


My biggest concern right now is...if France / Russia are too powerful the issue won't be adjusted for months and that would be horrible.

This is where adding more things to the editor settings would be nice...

[MagicMissile]

Argh forgot screenshot but maybe my fear that the +2 guns is too good might be unwarranted. My defense looks like it is crumbling like it used to do. I did make a counterattack shattering a inf corps since Germany dont really care about the 2 hex retreat any longer. But I think it might be over in 3 turns so last turn of July +-1 turn. Not sure why really but not having a UK armour and no French arm might be a mistake. The UK one for sure the French maybe not. We will see how my Germans will be doing to compare.

The Germans took Lille and advanced in a wedge kind of 3 hexes deep. Nice attack by HB so far and my airforces keep getting thrashed [:)].

But one victory at sea was scored. British intelligence noted the entire German submarine force was lying in Kiel with no AA and no Fighter cover so a decision to launch a Carrier strike was taken 8 hits scored resulting in one sub sunk and 1 severely damaged. We will see if there will be a Luftwaffe counterattack but that will at least take some steam off France.

Games will be on a 1 week break as HB goes on Holiday!

[MagicMissile]

June 21 1940

Seems like holiday hasnt started yet [:)]. 3 turns now feels optimistic. The French folded like nothing and even with an armour corps maybe one more counterattack could have been made but it would not have made much of a difference I dont think. Lost a UK corps surrender. I by mistake put a UK corps into garrion mode well done! [:)] and finally after garrion St Nazaire all the time now that it matters it is open for taking argh! Not 100% play thats for sure.

At sea everything is calm for the moment. Need to try and start planning for the next phase of the war.

[MagicMissile]

And we are back in action.

France surrrenders.

In the Mediterranean I invade Vichy Syria, Italy declares war on the UK. I move some naval units to the coast around Alger and the main UK navy is in Gibraltar in an attempt to counter invasion of Noprth Africa but I dont think this wiull stopp the Axis.

Also buildup against Yugoslavia.

[MagicMissile]

Also detect a build up against Norway. I send out a division which might invade Narvik. Havent decided if it is worth it or not.

[MagicMissile]

Here are forces and casulaties after the campaign in France.

If we compare it with the other game I note the following:

Losses in general are lower than what I am used to.

As usual I suck in the air war. I lost 1:2 as the allied and managed to hold 1:1 as the Axis. I think it is because I leave air on full support because I forget to turn it off [:)].

BoA is doing pretty similar but I have done slightly better because of that carrier strike. In general in both games I feel the subs are not doing too good they get hit all the time and have to go back and repair.

With the subs doing soso I realise I have overbought as I wrote earlier on the escorts and my British army is smaller than HBs.

HB has disbanded mech and a couple of Soviet air to build more corps and I guess arm units. Just to try out something different I will build less corps but disband some mech on the first turn of the war to build more armies. I havent played with this corps converting to armies stuff so not sure what to expect but I always built a fair amount of armies on turn 1 of the war I will continue to do that.

Ill post the same post in the other thread

[MagicMissile]

August 16 1940

The Axis is flowing into the Mediterranean. Yugoslavia attacked and a lot of German units on the way to Africa.

[MagicMissile]

August 30 1940

It is well played I think. The pressure against Egypt makes me scared so I abandon my guarding of the coast at Alger and move the main UK navy towards Egypt.

I am guessing the invasion of Vichy France will happen next turn.

Yugoslavia falls.

[MagicMissile]

And Malta about to fall. There seems to be a new rule. I can sadly enough no longer just sail away. Whick is a good thing by the way [:)].

[MagicMissile]

End of 1940

Same as in the other game I have been lazy updating. So I jump to end of 1940.

1) As expected the Axis gobbled up Vichy. What do people think is it good or not? I see more garrisons units and the UK get even more ships. Without those ships the UK navy can be a bit stretched but with them not so much. I like having them anyway. I am not 100% convinced it is worth it. But I understand one feels a lot safer and mainland Vichy has to be taken out at some point anyway.

2) The axis made a bit of a shoestring invasion of Norway using only a paratrooper. I didnt know that you could do that since Oslo defender got buffed. Anyway it did not work out so Norway survives 1 turn. In this game too there was a bit of Naval action outside Narvik but here also I failed to land a UK unit but I did manage to get the two middle ports in Norway. Later on I tried to defend one port with a corps a fighter and a CA as naval support. The fighter was not set on support so did nothing, the corps surrendered the airunit overun and the CA sunk so a fiasco altogether. I still hold the small port south of Narvik but not for very long I would say.

3) In Africa there are 5 German units around Tobruk so a complete standoff here in this game as well.

4) The subs in both games are really doing soso. One german sub sunk it had 4 hps and there was no escort bonus but sunk it was. The 2nd German sub to hit the bottom. I

5) Build up in the east continues. My Soviet army is smaller than HBs and I still have the useless mech not disbanded so the difference is pretty big. I hope to build like 8-9 armies on turn one of Barbarossa.

[MagicMissile]

End of 1940

Forces and casualties

[MagicMissile]

End of 1940

And the tech

[Flaviusx]

The only port worth holding in Norway is Narvik. I see no point in in creating POW camps for the Axis otherwise. I do think it is a good idea to contest that, but if you come up short there, you are just throwing away good money after bad. It's not like the UK can just be throwing away troops like that at this stage of the war. They are on a very tight budget.

I think banking the Soviet mech until after the war starts is the better idea. It's 5-6 rifle armies right there. On top of whatever you have saved up beyond that. You can easily set aside enough production here to build a dozen or more rifle armies (and I wouldn't necessarily even build all of them at once. Maybe 6 a turn in two waves, and hope to get lucky on experience gains this way.)

[MagicMissile]

Norway was a bad decision not that you can hold it really and sending a corps there over ambitious. And not setting the fighter to active just a mistake. It was bad all around [:)].

I always liked to build those extra armies before so I hope it will work out as well as before we will see.

[MagicMissile]

April 25 1941

Italian air can bite. To test the defense a bit of North Africa my Gibraltar fleet set sail to bomb the guarding subs. I inflicted 2 hits on the sub but the following airstrike by italian air inflicted 4 hits on CV Glorious. That hurt.

[MagicMissile]

May 1941

Convoy bonus bug?

I had no ships at sea but according to the sub attack I had a 6% bonus. As it happens the fleet in Gibraltar had a 6% bonus 2 cv 2dd is that a bug?

[MagicMissile]

May 23 1941

The world holds its breath as Barbarossa begins. It feels very bad already but I guess that is as it should be [:)].

HB actually had a clear weather turn on the first turn of May and everything looked ready but for some reason he decided not to attack then.

I lose 10 corps to overruns and 5 corps surrounded but 2 I temporarily managed to restore supply to.

I am outbuilt in mech compared to the other game. I have spotted 14 mech units 11 German 3 italian and there could possibly be another one hiding somewhere.

I set up a 54 PP (maximum) LL to Soviet union. I think also HB might have given up a bit on the BoA as far as I can tell there are only 3 possibly 4 subs on the map whereas I in the other game still pour resources into the Subs. I used to be that person build no subs just focus on the east and that ussually worked out very good for me. So we will see how this plays out.

The soviets by disbanding the 9 bad mech corps and with around 1300 resources saved built 11 inf armies and still had a 90% manpower. Problem is they take like 5 turn to arrive. Have to survive until then [:)].

During April and May the UK conquered Iraq and Persia.

I look for possibilities to help the Soviets with the British but the defenses everywhere look very solid. I could try do something in Norway or Denmark but I dont see it leading anywhere. Land in France just for the hell of it might be doable but even that wont be easy right now.

I advance towards Tobruk some but there are still 4 German units there, I guess 2 inf corps 1 inf div and a HQ but with the supply situation that is still enough to blunt most attacks. And no unit on the coast except Tobruk of course so the navy cant help out either. So it will probably have to be Western North Africa at some point but I doubt anything can be done until 1942.

[MagicMissile]

June 6 1941

Soviet forces melting and the panic is on.

I have detected 16 mech units now with 1 in Africa. I have no clue why I didnt build more in the other game. Why change a winning strategy [:)].