Planes in the Philippines

[RangerJoe]

Some destroyed units were actually rebuilt such as the 4th Marines and the 31st Infantry.

[Andy Mac]

And are included in the TOE of the marine Divs so the 4th marine Regt if rebuilt is an 'extra'

[Andy Mac]

Also was 31st regt rebuilt during the war ??

[Nomad]

You can't rebuild the 4th Marine Regiment. It comes in as a normal reinforcement, the destroyed one is not able to be bought out.

[RangerJoe]

You can buy out the 4th Marines but they disappear. I think that the 31st Infantry was rebuilt as part of a division.

[RangerJoe]

To improve the Philippines defense, why not make the Philippines division?

[Ian R]

ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

And are included in the TOE of the marine Divs so the 4th marine Regt if rebuilt is an 'extra'

The original 4th Marines withdraws, so can't be bought back from the dead list,, or so I thought.

[rustysi]

Have you discovered that if you let the rump of those squadrons be destroyed on the ground (take out all the pilots) that you can buy them back - and they come back without a withdraw date?

And before anyone demands another pro Japanese house rule, this is obviously intentional on the part of the designers - they built in the designation change.

[:(][:-]

Yup another house rule. Just like I would have one against Japan using the 'get around' of bringing the first BB conversions into play in Dec '43.

When will people stop playing the code? In case you're wondering, that's a rhetorical question. Just one more reason I don't PBEM. TBH the main reason is time.

[Ian R]

ORIGINAL: rustysi

Have you discovered that if you let the rump of those squadrons be destroyed on the ground (take out all the pilots) that you can buy them back - and they come back without a withdraw date?

And before anyone demands another pro Japanese house rule, this is obviously intentional on the part of the designers - they built in the designation change.

[:(][:-]

Yup another house rule. Just like I would have one against Japan using the 'get around' of bringing the first BB conversions into play in Dec '43.

When will people stop playing the code? In case you're wondering, that's a rhetorical question. Just one more reason I don't PBEM. TBH the main reason is time.

The reason I don't play PBEM any more is a matter of history going back 30 years. It is simply this: The Axis FBs bailing out in 1942 (CWIE) or 1943 (Pacwar) when the tide turned against them.

I appreciate there are some honourable opponents who go the distance, but they are very much the minority in my experience. Hence I stick to the AI.

[geofflambert]

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

What's that saying? The Allied 4E bomber is the best fighter they have. [X(]

Sending B-17s on a raid is sending the best sweepers you'll ever have.

[Lowpe]

If you plan from Dec 8th, you can get American fighters and AA to defend Australia easily enough. Might be more difficult in a tier 3 Ironman game thou.[;)]

B17D's are poor fighter substitute...run them into some Zeroes and they are gone with no replacements. B17Es are much better but you sacrifice range for all that great defensive firepower.

You can bounce some of those Warhawks around Singapore/Balikpapen/Miri/Mindanao/China to accomplish some fun things.

The P40B are great high altitude fighters, while the others can do a surprising amount of damage in low naval attacks -- I have even used them to strafe runways.

[GetAssista]

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli
What's that saying? The Allied 4E bomber is the best fighter they have. [X(]

Sending B-17s on a raid is sending the best sweepers you'll ever have.

Not the initial undergunned B-17Ds though. And probably not "ever" but until 43 [:)]

[HansBolter]

ORIGINAL: Nomad

You can't rebuild the 4th Marine Regiment. It comes in as a normal reinforcement, the destroyed one is not able to be bought out.

The trick is to not let it be destroyed in the first place.

I subscribe to the theory of flying out as much of it as possible before time runs out.

I don't see this as gamey because I am not just pulling out a small fragment.

Pulling out a small fragment is little better than just rebuilding the unit as all it really saves is a few PPs and you are left with a very small rump that will take forever and lots of resources to build back up.

By flying out everything that is not too large or heavy to be airlifted, the rebuilding process is quicker and less costly and doesn't feel as gamey.

[ggeilman]

Well if I am lucky I might salvage 10-12 B-17s out of the Philippines. Sending them down to Sydney for now.

[Macquarrie1999]

I remove every plane I can from the Philippines as soon as the Japanese bombers start to damage the airfields too much. That usually means against the AI that I can fight them in the air fro around two weeks before they bring too many planes against me. Those P-40s are useful to send to Singapore, Rangoon, the DEI, or Australia, all places where you need more fighters than you have available. I have also had a lot of success night bombing airfields as my bombers cant get intercepted and can bomb at low levels. I have killed around 20 Japanese planes on the ground in Malaya with Blenheim IVs out of Singapore.