New Patch Official OOBs, LBM's, Shp's ETA!

[o4r]

Waiting.....

[o4r]

I hope it is worth while the wait.....

[RamBear]

They usually are.. by the way, isn't 30 days up already? I believe it's 31 days tomorrow

[o4r]

Originally posted by RamBear
They usually are.. by the way, isn't 30 days up already? I believe it's 31 days tomorrow

Operation overlord was delayed due to the tide.... do you history to repeat itself, do you want the American to go ashore when the tanks goes to the wrong side.... be patient sometime a little delay will save life.......

[VikingNo2]

Are the size of AT guns going to be the same, the 17lb has a size of one, I beleive the 88mm and the 3 inch are bigger so why is the 17lb so small ? Shouldn't the large AT guns be well larger than the small AT guns ?

[o4r]

Originally posted by VikingNo2
Are the size of AT guns going to be the same, the 17lb has a size of one, I beleive the 88mm and the 3 inch are bigger so why is the 17lb so small ? Shouldn't the large AT guns be well larger than the small AT guns ?

I think it depend on the configuration of the stand. The AA version of 88 are bigger cause they used the AA stand which has a 360 degree tranverse but the 17 lb are on artillery type of shield but the tranverse is not 360 degree. They also stand lower. Maybe that is the reason.

The 88L71 AT version should be alike to 17 lb lower and harder to spot but the 88 AA version should be quite easy to spot.

[VikingNo2]

Good point, its just that the 17ld is the same size as the 2lb

[vahauser]

Just wondering if the OOB project has been postponed. . .

[KG Erwin]

Originally posted by vahauser
Just wondering if the OOB project has been postponed. . .

There's still some tweaking left to do, but the new OOB set will see the light of day...soon (?).

[sztartur2]

In 7.1 april mod the Hungarians do not have any HMG units. Of course that is not realistic they for sure had such "toys". Please consider adding them. The HMG se and HMG platoon is empty when buying infantry units for Hungarians.

Artur.

[KG Erwin]

In the latest pre-release OOB I have, there are now 07/12 MMGs incorporated into some Hungarian units. The 07/31 HMG is also configured into some elite units. Sztartur, if you have more information on the composition of Hungarian units, feel free to post them here. The OOB design team is wanting this final official release to be as complete as possible, and they're now approaching last call for suggested changes. To all concerned, get your wants and suggestions in here now. Marauder Mel has been a patient man--he has been the subject of my endless nitpickings on the USMC . However, for all of you with info on the lesser-known OOBs--please step forward. The time is near.

[Frank W.]

how about take a look into flame tanks. much too deadly against tanks IMHO.

also they should be somewhat more rare to buy, except perhaps in assault scens ( mostly used against fortifications ! ).

[sztartur2]

Originally posted by KG Erwin
In the latest pre-release OOB I have, there are now 07/12 MMGs incorporated into some Hungarian units. The 07/31 HMG is also configured into some elite units.

This sounds good.

I would very heavily suggest that separate MG platoons and sections should also be available. No more detailed info available unfortunately .

Artur.

[PzV im Einsatz!]

Hi!

Were Romania's ratings (exp. & morale) increased since SP:WaW v.4.7.

I ask this because I don't want to download a 400mb file only to bring back the frustration I had playing v.4.7 with Romania.

Seriously, who would've thought that Romanian troops were *slightly* better than Chinese soldiers from during WWII. :rolleyes:

I've talked with an SP:WaW official about this a year and half ago. He said that the stats are low because romanian troops performed rather poorly in many places and the only example he came up with was, surprise! surprise!, Operation Uranus... He obviously never took into account the successful operations at Kerch, Sevastopol, Taman, Odessa (rather bloody), etc.

Labeling romanian soldiers bad troops due to what happened at one place without even investigating the conditions (see below) in which the soldiers fought and without taking in account the rest of the campaign in Russia is an awful generalization.

OK, so romanian troops performed poorly during Operation Uranus, wonder why? There were 2 understrengthed romanian armies:

-who were facing 7 fully equiped Soviet armies (including 1,183 tanks, mostly T-34's and KV's)
-with a 400 km front to defend
-with no tanks at their disposition
-whose majority of AT guns were of 37mm and 47mm, only 9% of the AT guns were of 75mm caliber, reason why they were placed at 3.2 km from each other

now a hypothetical question: do you think US marines could have done better in these conditions?

I may be biased but what I ask for is a fair rating, not 40's in experience, and 50's in morale for an army that earned Manstein's respect

if this was fixed during my period of inactivity, then nevermind

best regards,
Andrei

[Frank W.]

if this was fixed during my period of inactivity, then nevermind
best regards,
Andrei [/B]

no. just playing a PBM as rumania against russia in 41 ( with some german tanks as support ) and they have esp. low rally rating if they come under fire they are alomst impossible to rally.... much like the german non elite troops in late 44/45.

[PzV im Einsatz!]

****
how can I bring this to the SP:WaW team's attention??

[AmmoSgt]

You can Manually set any Army to any base experience level you want in the preferences section .

[PzV im Einsatz!]

Thanks but I think it'll be a real shame if this problem is going to be avoided forever. If a bug can be corrected, why not find a permanent solution?

Do you know whom I should contact before it's "too late" (the next and probably last version for a while is soon going to be released)

[returnfire]

On a side note, I think I found two more errors in the v7.1 OOB files:

1. Check out the Nationalist China OOB. Take a look at Weapon 144 ("Hanyang 88"). It has a Pen AP value of 33 but no HE kill value.

(I'm not familiar with their WW2 weaponry, but it doesn't make sense for infantry squads to use ATRs as their early war rifle. )

Perhaps the rifle with the same name under the Communist China OOB should be used here?


2. Check out Communist Chinese's "Misc Small Arms" (Weapon 229).

WHY ON EARTH did they get range 24 (6 hexes) instead of 20 (5 hexes, the range of "Misc Small Arms" for ALL other nations)? :rolleyes:

[Frank W.]

Originally posted by PzV im Einsatz!
Thanks but I think it'll be a real shame if this problem is going to be avoided forever. If a bug can be corrected, why not find a permanent solution?

Do you know whom I should contact before it's "too late" (the next and probably last version for a while is soon going to be released)

i would say you can´t do much as some nations are intended to be "cannon food" if this excatly the performance they had in WW2 is questionable, how you will measure the performance btw ?

is the performance of a US G.I: better you had only to round up shocked survivers from a 5h arty + air bombardement with 500 B17 ( for the americans: this is not meant to downplay the overall good performance and bravery of your men in WW2 )or the rumanian soldier that flees before 300-400 russian T34 + KV1 tanks as his only AT weapons are 37mm + hand grenades ???

or the italians with their ignorant officers , almost incapable NCO and "tanks" about the british laughed ?
much afrika korps veterans say the italian soldiers ( not the officers ) were fine ppl. but....and isn´t it understandable that they didn´t want to fight for a goverment ( mussolini ) that they don´t liked and in a stranhe land the yhated ( africa ? ) ?

so think for your self about that !!