Too much research

[AlvaroSousa]

I will let you know what I find.

I have 2 accounts for testing.
My main one I can do everything on either version
My 2nd one the host disconnects me.

It was working before.

PBEM++ code has not changed since I don't remember.
Even they are stumped.

[stjeand]

Again this is not a show stopper...if you have other more important bugs work them.

We can figure out within 4 turns that this is an issue.

Germany and Italy should NEVER each get a point each for 3 turns...no matter what the code says. I have played over a hundred games and this only happened recently.

[AlvaroSousa]

This is important. Very odd.

[stjeand]

Al I am stating to think it might be related to one player.

Player Guggy...
I set up 2 Axis games with him...both had the issue.
He set up a game for me to be Axis.
Has the issue.

I asked him if sveint is playing him, because I believe he is...and sveint is seeing the issue too.

I wonder if it is that game.

[sveint]

Yes against guggy.

Something with localisation or regional settings? I did ask him and he said he is using 1.16. I'll ask him again.

[guggy]

I confirm my opponents reporting some free research points. Lucky them.

I am playing with the latest version v1.00.16, under crossover on a mac.
My set-up seems to work fine other than this annoying bug.

@Alvaro : I just created a new PBEM game with a password "bug" for you to join and play just a few turn then you can experience the bug and get into the code if you need. Feel free to join.

[michelzzt]

I am also playing vs guggy (as allied) and from GT 1 I receveid 1 research per turn for each nation

[stjeand]

Apparently Guggy feels he needs a handicap against all players.

[AlvaroSousa]

Ahhhhh. Ok good to know.

He might have an earlier version that I believe had this issue.

OR

He has changed the main scenario.

[Francis6292]

Guggy is a cheat who changes the scenario to win. No point in playing against him. My brother plays a game against him and when I see the screenshots I laugh!

[sveint]

guggy has been nothing but a great opponent and very cordial with me

[guggy]

Ahhhhh. Ok good to know.

He might have an earlier version that I believe had this issue.

OR

He has changed the main scenario.

I am playing under the latest version, v1.00.16
I did not change anything in any way, I am not able to do such thing and I don't see any reason to do it
As said before, I created a game for you to join and check what's going on. Password is : bug

[guggy]

Guggy is a cheat who changes the scenario to win. No point in playing against him. My brother plays a game against him and when I see the screenshots I laugh!

Are you kidding me ? You called me a cheat ? The reported bug give my opponents a massive advantage.

You better have some serious proofs and expose them now.
Otherwise, please, GTFO.

This is a serious thread where we are trying to solve a bug.

[Francis6292]

Bien sur que vous trichez. Vous avez boosté vos sous-marins, votre aviation et vos navires. Je vous soupçonne aussi d'avoir rajouté des PP. Vos avions Italiens sont écœurants de facilité, ils étrillent la RAF en 1940
Je joue l'Axe à chaque partie et quand je vois la votre j'ai envie de vomir. Votre production est faussée de au moins deux aviations pour l'allemand. Vos déplacements en début de jeu avec les italiens est à mourir de rire. Ils ont du pétrole sans limite. Ils débarquent en Espagne en Syrie, tout cela en 1940, avec support naval et aérien.
Je pense que le jeu rééquilibre les avancées technologiques et c'est pour cela que vos adversaires reçoivent tous des points quand il jouent contre vous.
Nous avons créé un scénario modifié et amélioré les troupes allemandes. Les alliés perçoivent des point de recherche à chaque tour.
Je comprends votre frustration car on ne peux pas gagner avec l'axe dans le scénario de base les alliés sont trop fort.
Mais faites comme nous, travaillez sur un scénario pour rendre le jeu équitable. C'est avec plaisir que je vous donnerai notre scénario lorsqu'il sera au top.
Bien cordialement.

Of course you are cheating. You have boosted your submarines, your air force and your ships. I also suspect you have added PPs. Your Italian planes are disgustingly easy, they were pummelling the RAF in 1940
I play the Axis every game and when I see yours I want to vomit. Your production is off by at least two aircraft for the German. Your moves at the beginning of the game with the Italians are laughable. They have unlimited oil. They land in Spain in Syria, all in 1940, with naval and air support.
I think the game is rebalancing the technological advances and that's why your opponents all get points when they play against you.
We have created a modified scenario and improved the German troops. The allies receive research points each turn.
I understand your frustration because you can't win with the axis in the base scenario the allies are too strong.
But do as we do, work on a scenario to make the game fair. I'll be happy to give you our scenario when it is up to date.
Best regards.

[stjeand]

1) The Allies are in no way to strong. You just have not played the correct Axis opponent. An all in BEF is very dangerous now if your opponent knows what to do.
2) If you are going to make a cheat scenario...and someone else creates the game is that the modified scenario?
3) Plus why would you give your opponent the better situation?


IF anyone thinks that the Allies are too strong...PLEASE do an all in BEF and let me know.

I would love to show you what will go wrong.

[guggy]

Bien sur que vous trichez. Vous avez boosté vos sous-marins, votre aviation et vos navires. Je vous soupçonne aussi d'avoir rajouté des PP. Vos avions Italiens sont écœurants de facilité, ils étrillent la RAF en 1940
Je joue l'Axe à chaque partie et quand je vois la votre j'ai envie de vomir. Votre production est faussée de au moins deux aviations pour l'allemand. Vos déplacements en début de jeu avec les italiens est à mourir de rire. Ils ont du pétrole sans limite. Ils débarquent en Espagne en Syrie, tout cela en 1940, avec support naval et aérien.
Je pense que le jeu rééquilibre les avancées technologiques et c'est pour cela que vos adversaires reçoivent tous des points quand il jouent contre vous.
Nous avons créé un scénario modifié et amélioré les troupes allemandes. Les alliés perçoivent des point de recherche à chaque tour.
Je comprends votre frustration car on ne peux pas gagner avec l'axe dans le scénario de base les alliés sont trop fort.
Mais faites comme nous, travaillez sur un scénario pour rendre le jeu équitable. C'est avec plaisir que je vous donnerai notre scénario lorsqu'il sera au top.
Bien cordialement.

Of course you are cheating. You have boosted your submarines, your air force and your ships. I also suspect you have added PPs. Your Italian planes are disgustingly easy, they were pummelling the RAF in 1940
I play the Axis every game and when I see yours I want to vomit. Your production is off by at least two aircraft for the German. Your moves at the beginning of the game with the Italians are laughable. They have unlimited oil. They land in Spain in Syria, all in 1940, with naval and air support.
I think the game is rebalancing the technological advances and that's why your opponents all get points when they play against you.
We have created a modified scenario and improved the German troops. The allies receive research points each turn.
I understand your frustration because you can't win with the axis in the base scenario the allies are too strong.
But do as we do, work on a scenario to make the game fair. I'll be happy to give you our scenario when it is up to date.
Best regards.

You are FOS, all this is just garbage. You obviously don't know what you are talking about and you know this game very little.
Whining and making false accusations of cheating makes you an embrasement for this community.
I played most respected players of this forum (Harrybanana, Sveint, Ncc1701e amongst others) and they will all confirm I am a fairplay and honest player. I doubt you can say the same thing.
You don't even name the player I am supposed to have cheated against, which makes you accusations even more worthless.

[guggy]

@Alvaro : can you please join the game I created for you and check the game files to clean me of this false accusations and solve this annoying bug ?

[CHINCHIN]

If WP in a PBEM does not check that both players have the same scenario, so that in case any difference is detected it will prevent playing, it is a bug that should be fixed. Every game I know of checks for this.

[Francis6292]

@CHINCHIN, WP does not check this, we have done the test

[CHINCHIN]

@CHINCHIN, WP does not check this, we have done the test

Ok, thanks Francis. In my opinion, this should be a priority to fix for the next patch.