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Re: air war feedback

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Joel Billings wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 8:28 pm At some point after release we changed the range circles info for fighters, so now, a fighter unit set to Mission:Fighter will show a range circle equal to its max intercept range. The unit detail screen shows two numbers for these units, the first is escort range, and the second is max intercept range. IIRC, the escort range is always 3/4 of the max intercept range. So I think this has been addressed.

As for the AS being so powerful, my first question is in your test, how many fighters were within range? It looks like JG3 has 79 a/c, but based on the info reported of plane types, it looks like more than just JG3 intercepted. Could it be that the AS mission was able to detect the enemy far from the target, which then allowed other non-AS groups to join into the turkey shoot? Would be interesting to see this kind of thing at other times of the war. Once you get detection of an incoming Soviet strike at this time in the war, the system will tear it apart. AS gives you that chance of detection early enough to make a difference.
This is in an actual game 4x4 team game where I took over the role of LW commander turn 11ish. I actually have the PBEM saves this time :-). 3 squadrons & 1 Stab were on AS. No other German fighters were involved.
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HardLuckYetAgain wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 9:03 pm
This is in an actual game 4x4 team game where I took over the role of LW commander turn 11ish. I actually have the PBEM saves this time :-). 3 squadrons & 1 Stab were on AS. No other German fighters were involved.
I imagine you mean three "Gruppen" and a Stab. For the Germans a squadron is a "Staffel".

3 Staffeln and a small Stab form a Gruppe. Then, literally, what has been used here are 9 Staffeln (squadrons) and their respective Stabs.
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Lurberri wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:56 pm
HardLuckYetAgain wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 9:03 pm
This is in an actual game 4x4 team game where I took over the role of LW commander turn 11ish. I actually have the PBEM saves this time :-). 3 squadrons & 1 Stab were on AS. No other German fighters were involved.
I imagine you mean three "Gruppen" and a Stab. For the Germans a squadron is a "Staffel".

3 Staffeln and a small Stab form a Gruppe. Then, literally, what has been used here are 9 Staffeln (squadrons) and their respective Stabs.
Glad you could figure it out. I just play the game and I don't worry about the nomenclature. Thanks for clearing it up for all the others.
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I see a battle with 55 F-2s, and one with 24 E-7s and 24 F-4s. That sounds like at least 5 units, if one is a Stab. Can you look into the battle details /air combat tab, and see what units are in all those battle reports?
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Joel Billings wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:18 am I see a battle with 55 F-2s, and one with 24 E-7s and 24 F-4s. That sounds like at least 5 units, if one is a Stab. Can you look into the battle details /air combat tab, and see what units are in all those battle reports?
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Joel Billings wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:18 am I see a battle with 55 F-2s, and one with 24 E-7s and 24 F-4s. That sounds like at least 5 units, if one is a Stab. Can you look into the battle details /air combat tab, and see what units are in all those battle reports?
You are correct Joel. The first 5 battles were all AS mission interceptions.

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Then the Soviet bombers got in range of my other airbase with Fighters for Army Group South and they joined in with the AS flights had already been picking off. Hope this helps, but boy was that crazy. Thank you as always Joel and you Sir were correct :)

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Re: air war feedback

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Joel,

If you need the PBEM save to look at anything I can send this to you since this is the Team Game "Infallible Koba" game.
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