CVE question

[BBfanboy]

you can put 24 planes if you want. or 36. go.

???

not sure I understand.

I think that refers to loading up the ship as an Aircraft Transport instead of a CVE mission.

[Sardaukar]

Yea, Long Island can operate 18 but can transport lot more.

[PaxMondo]

Well, yeah. But would you waste a CVE as an xAK? Maybe the allies can afford that, but I know I never would ever consider it. I mean I'm pretty sure when you overload the CVE with AC they unload damaged and you have to wait those turns for them to repair, right?

[BBfanboy]

Well, yeah. But would you waste a CVE as an xAK? Maybe the allies can afford that, but I know I never would ever consider it. I mean I'm pretty sure when you overload the CVE with AC they unload damaged and you have to wait those turns for them to repair, right?

No, the aircraft are fully assembled and ready to go once they are landed. You can take 2X the carrier complement and you can have multiple air units (which you cannot do on an xAK or even an AKV). Some of the CVEs coming out of Portland or Seattle already have 2X aircraft loaded as they are intended as replenishment aircraft for the carrier fleet.

[Sardaukar]

From CVE they unload undamaged.

[RangerJoe]

Well, yeah. But would you waste a CVE as an xAK? Maybe the allies can afford that, but I know I never would ever consider it. I mean I'm pretty sure when you overload the CVE with AC they unload damaged and you have to wait those turns for them to repair, right?

No, the aircraft are fully assembled and ready to go once they are landed. You can take 2X the carrier complement and you can have multiple air units (which you cannot do on an xAK or even an AKV). Some of the CVEs coming out of Portland or Seattle already have 2X aircraft loaded as they are intended as replenishment aircraft for the carrier fleet.

The best part of using the CVE to transport aircraft is that they can take off and land at a land base. That way they can get to a land base in a contested area without risking the ships carrying the air unit. If the aircraft is carrier capable, then the air unit can fly to another carrier which includes the replenishment groups flying replacement aircraft.

The best use (in my opinion) for the Long Island is to carry US Naval Infantry (US Marine) air units so they can fly to a base without risking any ships more than is necessary. This includes the first Corsair which is not carrier capable. Of course, the Long Island could also fly US Army, US Navy, and Allied air units as well. The second best and probably the more common use (in my opinion) is to fly smaller air units for convoy ASW and a small CAP against Glens. These air units would also be undergoing training to become carrier trained.

[PaxMondo]

Well, yeah. But would you waste a CVE as an xAK? Maybe the allies can afford that, but I know I never would ever consider it. I mean I'm pretty sure when you overload the CVE with AC they unload damaged and you have to wait those turns for them to repair, right?

No, the aircraft are fully assembled and ready to go once they are landed. You can take 2X the carrier complement and you can have multiple air units (which you cannot do on an xAK or even an AKV). Some of the CVEs coming out of Portland or Seattle already have 2X aircraft loaded as they are intended as replenishment aircraft for the carrier fleet.

The best part of using the CVE to transport aircraft is that they can take off and land at a land base. That way they can get to a land base in a contested area without risking the ships carrying the air unit. If the aircraft is carrier capable, then the air unit can fly to another carrier which includes the replenishment groups flying replacement aircraft.

The best use (in my opinion) for the Long Island is to carry US Naval Infantry (US Marine) air units so they can fly to a base without risking any ships more than is necessary. This includes the first Corsair which is not carrier capable. Of course, the Long Island could also fly US Army, US Navy, and Allied air units as well. The second best and probably the more common use (in my opinion) is to fly smaller air units for convoy ASW and a small CAP against Glens. These air units would also be undergoing training to become carrier trained.

So this appears to be an allied CVE feature. As IJ, if I attempt to fly more than the CVE AC limit I get this message:

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and if I follow through, only 5 additional AC will load. Now, maybe it is because of the version I am running, 1108r9, but I don't think so.

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If I disband the CVE into port, I can then overload it, but the AC added are all damaged.

So, you sneaky allies have ANOTHER advantage over the poor IJ ....

[Sardaukar]

Version 1108r9 is VERY outdated version...

There are at least 2 official patches after that and then betas.

[RangerJoe]

No, the aircraft are fully assembled and ready to go once they are landed. You can take 2X the carrier complement and you can have multiple air units (which you cannot do on an xAK or even an AKV). Some of the CVEs coming out of Portland or Seattle already have 2X aircraft loaded as they are intended as replenishment aircraft for the carrier fleet.

The best part of using the CVE to transport aircraft is that they can take off and land at a land base. That way they can get to a land base in a contested area without risking the ships carrying the air unit. If the aircraft is carrier capable, then the air unit can fly to another carrier which includes the replenishment groups flying replacement aircraft.

The best use (in my opinion) for the Long Island is to carry US Naval Infantry (US Marine) air units so they can fly to a base without risking any ships more than is necessary. This includes the first Corsair which is not carrier capable. Of course, the Long Island could also fly US Army, US Navy, and Allied air units as well. The second best and probably the more common use (in my opinion) is to fly smaller air units for convoy ASW and a small CAP against Glens. These air units would also be undergoing training to become carrier trained.

So this appears to be an allied CVE feature. As IJ, if I attempt to fly more than the CVE AC limit I get this message:

Warning Screenshot.jpg

and if I follow through, only 5 additional AC will load. Now, maybe it is because of the version I am running, 1108r9, but I don't think so.

version Screenshot.jpg

If I disband the CVE into port, I can then overload it, but the AC added are all damaged.

So, you sneaky allies have ANOTHER advantage over the poor IJ ....

Don't fly them to the aircraft carrier, you have to load them either to a docked carrier in a task force or load them onto the disbanded carrier in a base.

[Nazcatraz]

Is it worth withdrawing the CVE aircrafts to the pool so that my main carriers TF air squadrons in Sydney could get replacement? Or is there a better way to replace to replace my carriers squadrons aircrafts?

[PaxMondo]

The best part of using the CVE to transport aircraft is that they can take off and land at a land base. That way they can get to a land base in a contested area without risking the ships carrying the air unit. If the aircraft is carrier capable, then the air unit can fly to another carrier which includes the replenishment groups flying replacement aircraft.

The best use (in my opinion) for the Long Island is to carry US Naval Infantry (US Marine) air units so they can fly to a base without risking any ships more than is necessary. This includes the first Corsair which is not carrier capable. Of course, the Long Island could also fly US Army, US Navy, and Allied air units as well. The second best and probably the more common use (in my opinion) is to fly smaller air units for convoy ASW and a small CAP against Glens. These air units would also be undergoing training to become carrier trained.

So this appears to be an allied CVE feature. As IJ, if I attempt to fly more than the CVE AC limit I get this message:

Warning Screenshot.jpg

and if I follow through, only 5 additional AC will load. Now, maybe it is because of the version I am running, 1108r9, but I don't think so.

version Screenshot.jpg

If I disband the CVE into port, I can then overload it, but the AC added are all damaged.

So, you sneaky allies have ANOTHER advantage over the poor IJ ....

Don't fly them to the aircraft carrier, you have to load them either to a docked carrier in a task force or load them onto the disbanded carrier in a base.

As noted above, disbanded, they will load damaged. Docked, same result. Can't overload IJ CVE's ...

Dirty, cheating allies!!! Always taking advantage of poor, defenseless IJ!!!


EDIT
So, I just tried with allies, and also cannot do it. Must be my version, but surprised because 1108r9 should be the same as the last (good old) version.

[RangerJoe]

So this appears to be an allied CVE feature. As IJ, if I attempt to fly more than the CVE AC limit I get this message:

Warning Screenshot.jpg

and if I follow through, only 5 additional AC will load. Now, maybe it is because of the version I am running, 1108r9, but I don't think so.

version Screenshot.jpg

If I disband the CVE into port, I can then overload it, but the AC added are all damaged.

So, you sneaky allies have ANOTHER advantage over the poor IJ ....

Don't fly them to the aircraft carrier, you have to load them either to a docked carrier in a task force or load them onto the disbanded carrier in a base.

As noted above, disbanded, they will load damaged. Docked, same result. Can't overload IJ CVE's ...

Dirty, cheating allies!!! Always taking advantage of poor, defenseless IJ!!!


EDIT
So, I just tried with allies, and also cannot do it. Must be my version, but surprised because 1108r9 should be the same as the last (good old) version.

On an aircraft carrier, those "damaged" aircraft can be repaired . . .

[PaxMondo]

On an aircraft carrier, those "damaged" aircraft can be repaired . . .

So, I am doing it correctly? Ok. That helps a TON!! Thank you!!!

So, as long as your trip is 5 days or so and the planes are SR1, they will be repaired when you arrive. But, as the IJ with all of our mid and late war SR3, SR4, and SR5 planes, you would have to sail around for a month or more to repair all of them. So, again, you evil allies and your tricky tricks that the poor benighted IJ cannot use!!!

[RangerJoe]

On an aircraft carrier, those "damaged" aircraft can be repaired . . .

So, I am doing it correctly? Ok. That helps a TON!! Thank you!!!

So, as long as your trip is 5 days or so and the planes are SR1, they will be repaired when you arrive. But, as the IJ with all of our mid and late war SR3, SR4, and SR5 planes, you would have to sail around for a month or more to repair all of them. So, again, you evil allies and your tricky tricks that the poor benighted IJ cannot use!!!

But the Japanese can increase production of their aircraft while the Allies can't. It is just so unfair for the Allies. The Allies can only keep older aircraft factories producing the old models of aircraft, turn off completely the production of aircraft, turn off the HI and LI producing supplies without every being able to increase the HI and LI factories. They can only repair the damaged industries, oil, and resources. The Allies can't increase the factory size. The factories that are lost may be recaptured but every time that the factories change owners, they are reduced in half. So if the base only changes hands twice, the factories are reduced by one fourth.

The Japanese can increase the production shipyards, the repair shipyards, and hasten the arrival of ships while the Allies are not allowed to do so. It is just so unfair!

Maybe Jean Laidlaw needs to blow the Japanese a Raspberry.

[PaxMondo]