I have the VH's again. However I'm taking losses. Man do I hate per turn VH games.
Anyway, he hasn't lost much in the way of firepower. I'm still getting slaughtered by 17 pdr guns on fireflies and ATG's. The artillery takes about 5-10 of my infantry per round. What is a leader to do?
Big Battle
Moderator: MOD_SPWaW
RE: Big Battle
never cross a minefield
RE: Big Battle
A few more Germans die, I plunked a couple shot off a Kingtiger, i will have some 17lbs in place soon to make a bigger plunk hopefully
RE: Big Battle
My optimism is gone for the game. I think I can still pull off a decent score but I'm losing tanks too fast.
Viking has positioned his 6 pdr and 17 pdr guns in such a way that it is difficult to move my troops. Plus he just laid smoke for an advance. It seems he let me wear myself out before throwing the brunt of his resources at me.
I am learning a lot. I still have a lot to learn. I think I have managed well against my first game against Viking. Maybe Viking can be a better judge.
The northern VH's are not fully taken. I still have the center ones quite secure although he continues to test me there. The southern vh's are a real blood bath. His infantry is stuck too far south without armor support and his armor is further north without infantry support (well, not much...). I can't take advantage of this except in the slaughtering of some infantry. Like I said, I'm losing tanks very quickly. Viking must know a lot about LOS because he sets up his guns to cover one or two hex's that I would need to move into in order to take a shot. He leaves his tanks just outside of my range. He is baiting me for sure.
It is about turn 15 out of 30 currently. Any bets?
Viking has positioned his 6 pdr and 17 pdr guns in such a way that it is difficult to move my troops. Plus he just laid smoke for an advance. It seems he let me wear myself out before throwing the brunt of his resources at me.
I am learning a lot. I still have a lot to learn. I think I have managed well against my first game against Viking. Maybe Viking can be a better judge.
The northern VH's are not fully taken. I still have the center ones quite secure although he continues to test me there. The southern vh's are a real blood bath. His infantry is stuck too far south without armor support and his armor is further north without infantry support (well, not much...). I can't take advantage of this except in the slaughtering of some infantry. Like I said, I'm losing tanks very quickly. Viking must know a lot about LOS because he sets up his guns to cover one or two hex's that I would need to move into in order to take a shot. He leaves his tanks just outside of my range. He is baiting me for sure.
It is about turn 15 out of 30 currently. Any bets?
never cross a minefield
RE: Big Battle
Well my friend just because you don't see any tanks in the south doesn't mean they aren't there[;)]
Four more tanks die in the north, and the Vhexes are retaken, in the south a few Vhexes are retaken but a larger force of Stugs are just a few hexes away, ofcourse they got a little attention from some mortars
I think I may have to get some reinforcement soon but I don't remember what we agreed upon anymore[&:]
Four more tanks die in the north, and the Vhexes are retaken, in the south a few Vhexes are retaken but a larger force of Stugs are just a few hexes away, ofcourse they got a little attention from some mortars
I think I may have to get some reinforcement soon but I don't remember what we agreed upon anymore[&:]
RE: Big Battle
Um, you can get reinforcements now. I think you said turn 10.
never cross a minefield
RE: Big Battle
This last turn was extremely ugly. If it were a hand-to-hand fight, then I just had my back broken. He is slaughtering my tanks. The whole battle gives me some ideas for different strategy in upcoming games, but I'm at a loss to how to turn the tide in this battle. I doubt the VH per turn points are enough to save me. We will stick it out though. Call in reinforcements perhaps.
--German Turn--
Momentum is crushed in the north.
Center is held.
South is contested.
--End of Turn--
--German Turn--
Momentum is crushed in the north.
Center is held.
South is contested.
--End of Turn--
never cross a minefield
RE: Big Battle
Five Stugs die this turn one in the north and four in the South the Souther Vhexes are retaken, the postions of a couple of 88s and other AT guns are noted and plotted as future targets[:D]
RE: Big Battle
As one can imagine by Viking's smiley face, he has begun the 'slaughter at Vire', my new title for this battle. I just hope it isn't too one-sided for his tastes.
Anyway, I have given up on winning this battle and am concentrating on learning from my esteemed opponent. Viking is good; he knows the game and knows how to play it. He gives you very little room for error and rarely presents himself for attack. My main lesson from him is to never leave your tanks exposed. Even with infantry support Viking can surgically remove that unit from the game.
One question for him: do you use auto-rally? I always wondered if it was wise to automatically take infantry out of pinned status.
The north is half ours again. I never was able to take the Southern VH's for more than a turn. We will see about that. The center seems to be left alone. A reallocation of resources would be wise at this point.
A 75 mm gun motor carriage goes up in smoke behind the central VH hill.
I am too suppressed in the south to do much. I did manage to fire off about 7 rounds at a daimler ac with no success. Probably not a wise idea to take those shots since my ATG's are spotted now.
Anyway, I have given up on winning this battle and am concentrating on learning from my esteemed opponent. Viking is good; he knows the game and knows how to play it. He gives you very little room for error and rarely presents himself for attack. My main lesson from him is to never leave your tanks exposed. Even with infantry support Viking can surgically remove that unit from the game.
One question for him: do you use auto-rally? I always wondered if it was wise to automatically take infantry out of pinned status.
The north is half ours again. I never was able to take the Southern VH's for more than a turn. We will see about that. The center seems to be left alone. A reallocation of resources would be wise at this point.
A 75 mm gun motor carriage goes up in smoke behind the central VH hill.
I am too suppressed in the south to do much. I did manage to fire off about 7 rounds at a daimler ac with no success. Probably not a wise idea to take those shots since my ATG's are spotted now.
never cross a minefield
RE: Big Battle
Yeap I leave the auto rally on, I really don't do anything special years of looking an plotting on maps have given me the ability to see lines of sight well in the top down view. 3 Pz-IVs and another Stug are killed this turn I should have gotten two more but the crew of the tank got to excited and broke the main gun, then a Firefly forgot it was the baddest Britsh tank on the field and did its best Matilda imitation[:(]
RE: Big Battle
Well the South is a lost cause for me. I'll upload a picture in a second.
The middle sees a Daimler AC blow up. Whoop-de-do. I want to see a cromwell go up. I still feel the need for revenge after those KingTigers went up in smoke.
The north is a tug of war; currently we are losing. They have all the flags.
I'm running out of armor on all fronts. I am still learning though. Hopefully I will be able to keep this from being a completely one-sided score.
The middle sees a Daimler AC blow up. Whoop-de-do. I want to see a cromwell go up. I still feel the need for revenge after those KingTigers went up in smoke.
The north is a tug of war; currently we are losing. They have all the flags.
I'm running out of armor on all fronts. I am still learning though. Hopefully I will be able to keep this from being a completely one-sided score.
never cross a minefield
RE: Big Battle
A couple of Pz-IVs bite the bullet caosting me some light armor, the Kingtigers are closing in. Will the bigcats come into the smoke ?
My opponent hits the south with a huge rocket barrage, question is did I leave my armor there or did I move it ?
My opponent hits the south with a huge rocket barrage, question is did I leave my armor there or did I move it ?
RE: Big Battle
I didn't even look at the replay lol. Who knows what those rockets landed on. We're trying to dig a well to get water to wash away the blood on that hill-- hence the barrage of rockets to unearth a good digging site.
Things went decently during this turn, turn 18 I believe. Didn't do any major damage but didn't receive any. As he said, he did take out some Pzkpfw's but I still have some armor left to play with. I took out some of those 'tanks' with rubber wheels and caused some units to head back to England. The north is still held by Viking. He holds, and probably will forever hold, the south. I just couldn't get up and over that hill. The middle is still held in my grasp. That's the richest point area with 5 VH's instead of 4.
It's a matter of time and points now.
Things went decently during this turn, turn 18 I believe. Didn't do any major damage but didn't receive any. As he said, he did take out some Pzkpfw's but I still have some armor left to play with. I took out some of those 'tanks' with rubber wheels and caused some units to head back to England. The north is still held by Viking. He holds, and probably will forever hold, the south. I just couldn't get up and over that hill. The middle is still held in my grasp. That's the richest point area with 5 VH's instead of 4.
It's a matter of time and points now.
never cross a minefield
RE: Big Battle
I rarely watch the replay either, this turn a Pz-IV and a Stug are added to the tally, a few other units where killed as well. A AA gun that has been causing me trouble and a hidden MG[;)]
The German AUX battalion is spotted headed my way[;)]
The German AUX battalion is spotted headed my way[;)]
RE: Big Battle
I haven't gotten much use out of the ATG and the AA positions other than to make you irritable. Perhaps you could pass some hints my way? Or any hints at all? My army is in a dark hour.
The south is attacking in another direction *cough*.
The middle remains mine but some troubling armor activity is reported south in a small valley created by a U shaped knoll.
The north is somewhat quiet but units that are suppressed and left out front are taken out.
VH Talley: German 5 British 8
What's a commander to do?
The south is attacking in another direction *cough*.
The middle remains mine but some troubling armor activity is reported south in a small valley created by a U shaped knoll.
The north is somewhat quiet but units that are suppressed and left out front are taken out.
VH Talley: German 5 British 8
What's a commander to do?
never cross a minefield
RE: Big Battle
Turn sent a couple of days ago just trying to cautch up on thing, kill a few monor unit and a AUX flamewagon ( I hate those ) Kingthings are spotted forming up into a Heavy Heavy attack force supported by the AUX units that a streaming to the hot spots
RE: Big Battle
Take out a half track and some infantry in the north.
Panzershreck that was unnoticed fired at a GMC at 1 hex distance and missed. So much for those AT infantry units. Oh, and he was of course spotted and sent running. I hear an assualt is expected on the center position but details are lacking.
Reinforcements have arrived and are positioning for maximum effect.
It's turn 21 out of 30 so we need to grab some more VH's if we want to win by points. We have yet to kill a single cromwell iv. I salute Viking for protecting his units.
Another PzShreck just managed to take out that GMC in the middle. Woohoo.
Viking's artillery is deadly accurate as usual. His quick response and mobile halftrack mortars allows him to put everything into a hex if he desires to. He can pin a unit and keep it there the whole game until he is ready to ambush it.
Panzershreck that was unnoticed fired at a GMC at 1 hex distance and missed. So much for those AT infantry units. Oh, and he was of course spotted and sent running. I hear an assualt is expected on the center position but details are lacking.
Reinforcements have arrived and are positioning for maximum effect.
It's turn 21 out of 30 so we need to grab some more VH's if we want to win by points. We have yet to kill a single cromwell iv. I salute Viking for protecting his units.
Another PzShreck just managed to take out that GMC in the middle. Woohoo.
Viking's artillery is deadly accurate as usual. His quick response and mobile halftrack mortars allows him to put everything into a hex if he desires to. He can pin a unit and keep it there the whole game until he is ready to ambush it.
never cross a minefield
RE: Big Battle
Two more Stugs and a couple of halftracks are added to the junk yard. But my casualties are strarting to mount and a fleet of trunks is seen headed to the center Vhexs.
RE: Big Battle
We're on turn 23 or so. I get a Cromwell tank kill this round with a panzerschreck. Don't think that is going to win the game for me but it helps. The north is the site of all the action currently. I lost the armor aforementioned by Viking up there and that is where I'm counter attacking. So far I'm not doing so great. I wish he had waited just one turn up there before moving. I think he's paying my artillery to be slow and inaccurate.
In the middle I blow up a truck and force some commandos back.
In the south my units spot a crewman and miss horribly.
I think I'm going to lose. But then again, isn't that synonymous with "I'm playing VikingNo2"?
In the middle I blow up a truck and force some commandos back.
In the south my units spot a crewman and miss horribly.
I think I'm going to lose. But then again, isn't that synonymous with "I'm playing VikingNo2"?
never cross a minefield