Can I use some other font in the game?

[FirstPappy]

You're very welcome. I'm sorry to hear that Alan had a problem with other applications. I only use my machine for the IE 6, MSMoney, MSWord and MSExcel, the version of Outlook that comes with XP and of course gaming. No problems as of last Friday. This includes other games as well. As a matter of fact I think it changed the font on IE 6 for the better.

No here's hoping that at the least, if Matrix doesn't support this new font, they will at least not make any changes in a patch to screw it up.

If we could just get them to amend "Retirement Allowed" to "Retire Allow" that would clean up one of the few noticable overruns.

Pappy

[WiTP_Dude]

How is this done in Windows 2000? The new font isn't showing up in the font directory.

[FirstPappy]

WiTP_Dude:

Any luck yet with the font change on Win2000?

Pappy

[WiTP_Dude]

No, I've downloaded the new font to the directory but it doesn't show up. Can't copy the 'Times New Roman' font either.

[Cmdrcain]

My take is the inabiliy to change font is bad, Matrix should have beta testers who are vision impaired to give them input on fonts used, also some text and backgrounds like the semi transparent black box backgrounds with white over isn't good, a better font or a Yellow on black might been better
Lots of Gamers are getting old and cannot see Small type as well as younger ones and us oldsters often have more money to spend [:'(]

Not all of its a problem but a bigger Size for fonts should been tested
for comfort, seems to me too much testing went into game play and not enough testing perhaps on the more boring Font/text testing, I for one would have told matrix if I betatested if some font/size was not comfortable.

I hope they take in account that peoples eyes vary and there IS a need for adjustable fonts in the game, coding game so its all or nothing font and size isn't good, there should be at least some leeway in text size and font used.

[:-]

[Caltone]

ORIGINAL: Alan_Bernardo

I ended up having to resort to the old font. For one, Outlook was screwed. The font was different (and I couldn't change it), causing some of the letters to be partly invisible. I was waiting for something like this to happen since a lot of programs use the font that was replaced.

It would be nice if Maxis did something about how it's hard to read the font. Again, with the amount of information displayed, I can see why it needs to be small. But small or not, the font in the game does appear hard to see, no matter its size.

Oh well, small problem, actually.

Alanb

Yeah Outlook must use Times New Roman as its default. Easy enough to fix though. Go into Tools/Options Read tab and then Fonts, do the same thing in the Compose tab. Change your default font there to something like Arial or your personal fave. This works for OE. For regular Outlook try this site by Microsoft:



Change Fonts in Outlook


For other office apps like Word or Excel, go to Tools/Options and on the general tab you can select your font. I do this right away when I'm on a new system, I hate Times New Roman.

[WiTP_Dude]

I figured it out. Need to delete and install the new font rather than just copying the file over.

[myros]

Good to hear that this has helped others... there are a few places where the replacement font is a bit to big and the text overlaps but IMO its worth the trade-off to have the in-game text be far more readable. Eventualy I'll have to revert back to the original font for system use so I hope the good folks at Matrix decide to help us out here by letting us specify which font is used by default. I seached all over the config files etc and couldnt locate it, Im guesing its hard coded ... any chance we'll see this value exported to the config file where we can mod it if needed?

My site is now on a new server if anybody had problems downloading my moded font file.

Myros

EDIT - while Im at it any chance we can get a way to mod which messages get displayed? I really dont need to see 50,000 message of "combining barges" but I would like to see the ones which have some relation to the situation (sinkings, sightings, base improvement completions etc). I can set it at 0.1 and end up missing important stuff or set it at 2.0 and have a turn take 4 or 5 minutes longer ... not a good trade off

[WiTP_Dude]

ORIGINAL: myros

EDIT - while Im at it any chance we can get a way to mod which messages get displayed? I really dont need to see 50,000 message of "combining barges" but I would like to see the ones which have some relation to the situation (sinkings, sightings, base improvement completions etc). I can set it at 0.1 and end up missing important stuff or set it at 2.0 and have a turn take 4 or 5 minutes longer ... not a good trade off

I agree, a lot of these messages are pointless. I'm sure they were useful for debugging and testing but shouldn't be in the final product IMHO.

[FirstPappy]

WitP_Dude,
Glad you got it installed.

Myros,
Everyone is thanking me but you are the one who posted the original. I just reposted after I saw Mr. Frag give out no helpful info. I agree with your comment about the messages as well.

Pappy

[Bodhi]

Agreed about the pointless messages, reminds me a bit of SimCity4 (oops, lost all credibility in here now I see[:o]).

I'd also contend that you shouldn't need to rely on getting important information from the messages displayed during combat resolution. All the important info should be available via Intel screens on the next move, if it isn't already.

[Caltone]

ORIGINAL: WiTP_Dude

ORIGINAL: myros

EDIT - while Im at it any chance we can get a way to mod which messages get displayed? I really dont need to see 50,000 message of "combining barges" but I would like to see the ones which have some relation to the situation (sinkings, sightings, base improvement completions etc). I can set it at 0.1 and end up missing important stuff or set it at 2.0 and have a turn take 4 or 5 minutes longer ... not a good trade off

I agree, a lot of these messages are pointless. I'm sure they were useful for debugging and testing but shouldn't be in the final product IMHO.

Don't forget about hitting the esc key. It'll speed things up through those messages, including the air recon (which I want to see) but you can get a recap of those in the sigint report.

Thanks again for the help with the font, I'm happy

[kayjay]

I cant change out that font either as it is used in another app - I am 50 + - and have a number of vison impairments that make it tough to play more'n an hr or so

LIkewise on the msgs - Im playing scen6 and too many 2 -3 plane raids opposed by 5 or 6 cap ... and 1 plane photo recon missions ... maybe a option that if no damage is done msg dosnt diplay?

Kevin

[FirstPappy]

kkelly,
I feel your pain. But if you are playing for hours at a time wouldn't it be worth it to change the font while you are playing then change back when done? You could leave a sticky note on the monitor as a reminder to change back.

Pappy (53+)

[gunnergoz]

KKelly & Pappy,

In re: the font issue, I'm also over the 50 mark and fortunately still have good vision with correction. But I concur that the fonts need changing to a sans-serif one. I'm well versed in how to fudge the TNR font out of the way to let the "Newone" font work for the game, but I don't like playing with my system stability that much...too many other applications use TNR and switching fonts out often while the OS is busy, is not something I think adds stability to your system and I advise against it.

The bottom line is that Matrix needs to recode a font change or at least build in a switch to enable a choice of fonts. How difficult can it be to simply switch out the embedded font preference? I'll bet we have talent around here to hack the code, but that's illegal and I don't endorse it at all. I'd much rather see Matrix solve the problem in some simple, elegant and straightforward way.

[Alan_Bernardo]

Gunnergoz,

I concur about the font thing creating instability. Times New Roman might be the system's font used most. When I swapped it out, problems kept appearing.

Matrix does need to do something about this.

Alanb

[Cmdrcain]

ORIGINAL: Pappy

kkelly,
I feel your pain. But if you are playing for hours at a time wouldn't it be worth it to change the font while you are playing then change back when done? You could leave a sticky note on the monitor as a reminder to change back.

Pappy (53+)

If possiable it would be nice if could patch game so it gives
options for fonts, it was said that a fixed font was needed for the
way text is presented but weren't there alternative font/sizes
that could as well have worked?

If so, game should have had the choices so a person could pick the easiest.

Matrix needs consider that alternative fonts/sizes are needed
for games, even if way present text limits it to 2 or 3 font types and only 2 sizes it would still be useful for gamers to have even such a limited choice to choose the closest comfortable one to use.

Future games, matrix has to recruit some betatesters who have
vision problems to simply betatest the Text used, If I had been a beta tester I would have pointed out the uncomfortable text in places and Matrix could have looked into alternatives.

Games not unplayable but it is a bit uncomfortable.

I'm nearsighted with astigmitus so I now have problems reading Small type, the screen mode doesnt help, so even a small choice of a few different fonts and sizes would been nice.

[FirstPappy]

Has anyone playing WitP on a laptop tried changing the fonts? If so, how does it look?

[Alan_Bernardo]

ORIGINAL: Caltone


Yeah Outlook must use Times New Roman as its default. Easy enough to fix though. Go into Tools/Options Read tab and then Fonts, do the same thing in the Compose tab. Change your default font there to something like Arial or your personal fave. This works for OE. For regular Outlook try this site by Microsoft:



Change Fonts in Outlook


For other office apps like Word or Excel, go to Tools/Options and on the general tab you can select your font. I do this right away when I'm on a new system, I hate Times New Roman.

That's just too much trouble to go through in order to have clearer font in WiTP. Also, since a lot of programs use Times New Roman, little problems will be cropping up continuously.

Furthermore, there is the issue of the few instances where one word gets very close to the other, when using this different font, at times the words even overlapping.

Though I like the different font, it's just not worth it, considering.

Alanb

[txrobpam]

I'm another hoping this gets fixed in a PATCH.

PLS!