When will finally be possible to buy boxed version?

[andytimtim]

some ones still to answer my question!...will the box version be cheaper!

[witpwife]

The manual that you get with the DD, and on the backup CD you can order now, is a PDF version that you can read on the computer or print out yourself. Because it is so large, one option, if you have a CD burner, is to copy the manual onto a CD, and take it to a local printshop (we used Kinkos/Fed Ex, but I don't know whether they have them in Britain). For $10 we got a printed and bound manual. Otherwise we would have gone through 2 or 3 $30 printer cartridges. It is nice to have a printed manual that you can annotate and look at while you are in the middle of a turn.

[neuromancer]

In a civilized country like Canada, DSL or Cable is the norm, not the exception.

Many of you poor people that live in backwards, underdeveloped countries - like the U.S. - still have to use dial-up?

You have my pity.

[:'(]


On a serious note, I had no problems with the download.
Unfortunately, I do have a problem with the font, but that is another matter.

And has been stated, war games are a niche market. A 'monster game' like WitP is a niche of a niche. I would be very surprised if any retailers ever carried it. Ordering a CD online, or via DL, is probably the only way a game like WitP would be distributed.

[SunDevil_MatrixForum]

No andytimtim it will not be cheaper, just another option like Mr. Frag said.

[UncleBuck]

If you enjoy MASSIVE logistic and scale games then WitP is what you want, it is worth it. If you are a First Person Shooter player or Starcraft/Lords or the Realm/Warcraft Gamer you will not care for this one. If you are unsure if you want to get WitP pick up a copy of Uncommon Valor. It is less expensive; I bet you can get it used on Amazon.com or Ebay for less than 20 dollars US. It will give you a good taste of what WitP is. As for no box, who cares. The Manual is GIANT. It would cost more than 80 dollars for Matrix to print a copy for each game. As it is now I printed the 220 pages in BW and put it in a 3 ring binder. After I bought the ream of pre-punched paper and the three ring binder it cost me 15 dollars for the whole thing. Oh I also printed out all of the COLOR maps that are on the CD. I don't keep the boxes anymore. I found they were just getting in the way.

If you like the TAOW or other strategy games you will like WitP. If you ever played Squad Leader, Panzer Leader, Dawn Patrol or any of the other Avalon Hill type games this is for you.

UB

EDIT, Dang Spel Check changed TAOW to TOAW!

[andytimtim]

ORIGINAL: SunDevil

No andytimtim it will not be cheaper, just another option like Mr. Frag said.

so ive wasted some money [X(] by how cheaper will it be?

[SunDevil_MatrixForum]

No andytimtim it will NOT be cheaper, just another option like Mr. Frag said.

Please read my post again.

[andytimtim]

oops[:D] sorry misread your post [:'(]


sorry bout that[8|]

[pad152]

Frag

Optional Boxed version (pretty box, pretty CD)

Any idea what the cost will be to buy the boxed version for those of us who already bought the downloaded version?

[rogueusmc]

It will probably be a second purchase.

[Mr.Frag]

It will probably be a second purchase.

You are probably right [:D]

[herbieh]

This is a good thread, but the fact remains

Not all of us can get the download
Just what is an acceptable period of time to get a simple CD sent from the USA to another country
We have now well passed the acceptable time frame
I used to recieve mail from home anywhere in the world faster than this in my navy days.

Matrix, I am sure many, many @#@#$%# many of us are staring to feel really ripped off and very annoyed at how long it is taking to get something we paid for
The cost, who cares,its the greatest value for money game in the world, BUT NOT UNTIL I ACTUALLY CAN PLAY IT.

GRRRRRRR

[andytimtim]

i just have a bad feeling that i wont get the game till late august! and by that time ill be starting college and wont have enough time to play the game! [:(]

[Guderon]

ORIGINAL: witpwife

The manual that you get with the DD, and on the backup CD you can order now, is a PDF version that you can read on the computer or print out yourself. Because it is so large, one option, if you have a CD burner, is to copy the manual onto a CD, and take it to a local printshop (we used Kinkos/Fed Ex, but I don't know whether they have them in Britain). For $10 we got a printed and bound manual. Otherwise we would have gone through 2 or 3 $30 printer cartridges. It is nice to have a printed manual that you can annotate and look at while you are in the middle of a turn.

You will all probably hate me for this, but I've gotta share - I took the PDF to my local Staples for printing and binding (around $12 b&w). I thought a color manual would be cool, but was quickly dissuaded from that when they told me it would cost around $200 [X(] When I went back later to pick it up, they handed me my b&w manual and mentioned that they had mis-read the order and had printed a color one first and would I also like to have the color one for free since it was their mistake? Oh yeah, AND my wife had a $10 off printing coupon for Staples she gave me too. So the final tally for one bound b&w manual AND one bound color manual was less than $5 including tax. Life is good...[:)]

[Grunty]

... I guess this debate is not worthy a reply from a Matrix staff... or why haven't we heard anything untill now... is it only me or does it seems that a great game will underachieve with sold copies due to lack of logistics ...

[HannoMeier]

I will wait for the boxed version, even if I am tempted to buy the digital download now. It should have been made availible sooner.

Hanno

[hithere]

ORIGINAL: UncleBuck

If you enjoy MASSIVE logistic and scale games then WitP is what you want, it is worth it. If you are a First Person Shooter player or Starcraft/Lords or the Realm/Warcraft Gamer you will not care for this one. If you are unsure if you want to get WitP pick up a copy of Uncommon Valor. It is less expensive; I bet you can get it used on Amazon.com or Ebay for less than 20 dollars US. It will give you a good taste of what WitP is. As for no box, who cares. The Manual is GIANT. It would cost more than 80 dollars for Matrix to print a copy for each game. As it is now I printed the 220 pages in BW and put it in a 3 ring binder. After I bought the ream of pre-punched paper and the three ring binder it cost me 15 dollars for the whole thing. Oh I also printed out all of the COLOR maps that are on the CD. I don't keep the boxes anymore. I found they were just getting in the way.

If you like the TAOW or other strategy games you will like WitP. If you ever played Squad Leader, Panzer Leader, Dawn Patrol or any of the other Avalon Hill type games this is for you.

UB

EDIT, Dang Spel Check changed TAOW to TOAW!

But it SHOULD be TOAW shouldn't it?

[Arnir]

According to the rumor mill (only use that term because my invitation to Matrix's board meetings has not yet been received) WitP is not attractive to game retailers. It costs too much for spur of the moment purchasers. Retail distribution takes a huge bite out of the profit margin and can even result in a loss per unit. This is a niche product. If WitP suddenly became a Tickle Me Elmo (or whatever) must have product you could probably by it at your local grocery store but that isn't going to happen.

IIRC, this was also talked about quite a bit before the game was released.

[UncleBuck]

Yes it should be. Hangs head in shame. Need more coffee. Maybe I could hook up one of our IV pumps to keep a steady supply......

UB

[hithere]

Well..the only reason i saw it was because a friend of mine used to give me a hard time making it TAOW all the time. [:)]