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RE: Dry spell for computer gaming?

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ORIGINAL: Joe 98

To me, the game looks and feels like a 1977 board game. In the screen shot above, there is a counter to represent a crater. Surely, with computers, we don’t need to place counters!

It's actually a very effective way of identifying a particular terrain type, and I like the board-game feel (as I do with Korsun Pocket, come to that). These games are not masterpieces of graphics sophistication, are the creation of (to all intents and purposes) one man, and are aimed at a niche not a mass market. You accept that or you don't.

Another reason is that Tiller obviously designs the games with a construction kit, which is one reason he churns them out so quickly. He has never released map full map/scenario editors, much to my irritation, although I understand the reason.
Does each counter represent 1 man or 1 squad?

Squads. There are exceptions, particularly leaders who have their own counter.
Why does the AT gun face AWAY from the enemy?

Because the counter graphic was drawn that way round !
What is the counter representing a rifle ??

There are discarded weapons in the hex (either dropped or the carriers are KIA). Weapons can be picked up, dropped, swapped etc.







ORIGINAL: wodin

I find the graphics give this game a real charater. Do NOT be put off by them. If you are then you are going to miss out on one superb game.

The new graphic mods arent a full overhall of the game but my fav are the counter backgrounds.


In all honesty the counter and portrait graphics that come with games are pretty awful. The good news is that some very skilled artists have done excellent replacements for all (I think?) of the games now, as well as for the Panzer Campaigns games.






ORIGINAL: SlapBone

In this list (besides Tacops 4 mentioned above) i will give honarable mentions to:

Korea 85
North German Plain 85
Fulda Gap 85

all from HPS' Modern Campaigns series


The Middle East one is very good - the best game representing the Arab/Israeli wars I've come across. I don't have those games, so can't compare.
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RE: Dry spell for computer gaming?

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ORIGINAL: Hertston

ORIGINAL: wodin

I find the graphics give this game a real charater. Do NOT be put off by them. If you are then you are going to miss out on one superb game.

The new graphic mods arent a full overhall of the game but my fav are the counter backgrounds.


In all honesty the counter and portrait graphics that come with games are pretty awful. The good news is that some very skilled artists have done excellent replacements for all (I think?) of the games now, as well as for the Panzer Campaigns games.


Thats what I said, check out the new graphic/art mods.

I was debating for over a year whether to buy a SB game. The screenshots put me off asell. However due to the same reasons as this thread I was desparate to find something decent. So I took the risk and Im damn glad I did. I asked plenty of questions over at Blitz and downloaded and read all the articles at Team Echo. I still wasnt 100% sure but I went for it. Like many others who fell for this game at first I just couldnt warm to it. So I re read the strategy articles, took my time,played a couple of scenarios then played a PBEM game. That was it I was converted. The game also has a small dedictaed following and "The Boardgame Project" is a long running project in which they are converting many ASL scenarios for both Eagle Strike and Advance of the Reich.

Joe,

The counters for trench,pillbox etc etc are put there by the scenario designer. There comes with the game so massive maps including the whole of stalingrad. Sections of these maps are used by scenarios designers. i.e. A designer would use Pavlovs house section within the Stalingrad map to make a recreation of that particular firefight. Anyway BTW the beauty of having the counters is that you can place your Pillboxes.Dug out etc wherever you choose when designing a scenario.

This game is as good as the scenario designer. A good scenario will be a joy to play (All the user made ones are fantastic).

Below is an example of the new backgorunds to the counters, far better than blue or reddy/orange. For the SS you get an SS symbol. You also get the relevant badge in the units info screens.

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