The Matrix Volunteer Appreciation Thread

[rich12545]

LOL.

Les, you have a lot of chutzpah criticizing my posts considering your history. You don't even use your name.

I've said this several times but I'll repeat it for you.
I'm not so much mad at the game problems (they are, in fact, minor) as the lack of communication and the "hell with the customer" attitude of MG. Do you get it now? Virtually every game I have or have ever had or will ever have has minor bugs. That's not the point. The real point of my constant haranging is the company's attitude. OK?

[Hexed Gamer]

What's n a name rich (I am sure mom doesn't call you rich12545 ).

I changed the ID for matters of closure. The old name was not on my birth certificate either heheh.

I will agree, some things happen here at Matrix Games, and a person is left to wonder "why". Sometimes the reason I might not know something, is simply I am not Matrix Games staff and not on the staff email list hehe.

[Paul Vebber]

Rich, David Heath himself has addressed the issue and your continued complaints on things that are either unable to be identified, as the designer intended, or issues of additional documentation that was "nice to have" but not an impact on game play are simply redundant to the absurd.

How many times do we have to say "no" before you get the message? This has benn going on literally for YEARS with you.

IF you must feel free to keep posting though...

You may hope that people forget we have answered this many times before. BUt we'll keep reminding them that we have.

Its hardly "to hell with the customer" if you keep making the same complaints over and over and over and we get tired of giving the same answer over and over and over.

Our customer service speaks for itself, as many of the appreciative emails demonstrate.

You can't please all of the people all the time.

[rich12545]

David Heath, himself, addressed these to me personally. First he said that Brent was the ONLY person in the whole world qualified to add a few pictures and text at the end of MCLV and that he would not assign it to anyone else. (Paraphrased) And Brent told me that although he would like to finish the project that first, he was having medical problems, and second, that DAVID WANTED HIM TO WORK ON OTHER THINGS INSTEAD OF FINISHING MCLV.
As for my other two complaints, David told me that Michael Woods did the programming and was nowhere to be found. Tough luck. Yeah, like, he's the only programmer in the world capable fixing a couple of bugs.
This tells me that Matrix has a "to hell with the consumer" attitude and that's my opinion. The only thing we agree on is that this has been going on for YEARS. And whose fault is that?

Paul, I have NEVER complained about SPWAW. In fact I have done nothing but shower you folks with praise for YEARS on that score. What you've done with SP, for free, is beyond the call of duty. But you need to get your act together and fix the products that we paid for.

[Paul Vebber]

Like I said, I respect your right to complain, appreciate your support, but feel there are two sides to the story.

Both sides are out there and I leave it to the forum readership to decide if its an issue to them or not.

[rich12545]

The forum readership?
Paul, doing the right thing for your customers isn't a popularity contest. You either do or you don't. The MCs have problems. They've been problems for YEARS and you folks refuse to fix them and only offer lame excuses. And you've made it clear that you will NOT do the right thing for your customers, but that doesn't stop me from giving my opinion on that decision.

[KG Erwin]

Rich, even after hearing from David, you're not willing to let it go? C'mon man, that borders on obsessiveness.

You've gotten personal attention from the management, but you are still not happy? I have nothing but the highest praise for Matrix' customer support, and the vast majority of gamers here will agree with me.

You're turning into Don Quixote, rich. Get a grip. [:-]

[rich12545]

Get a grip?

Are you saying I don't have the right to express my opinion? I spent over $100 on the MCs and I can't even gripe when they still need fixing after years? KG, with respect, I think it's you who needs to get a grip.

[Hexed Gamer]

Currently, after a bit of reading elsewhere, therefore with barely any visible respect, Rich take it somewhere else.

I can assure you, you are as boring as they tell me all my unwanted viewpoints are.

And I don't care how much money you spent to be as tediously boring as you are being.

And as I am not in anyway a Matrix Games voice, you can assume "I" said this for "ME"

[rich12545]

And that is your opinion. You're entitled to it. I don't agree but I would fight to the death for your right to express it.

If you get bored, you're under no obligation to read my posts. Maybe there's some way you can filter me out. Feel free. Sometimes I'd like to do that to you. Your posts have caused so much trouble on the two forums that you felt compelled to change your name.

[KG Erwin]

Rich, the SPWaW Depot is crying out for people who want to denigrate Matrix. You're probably already a member.

I said my piece about those guys fracturing the community, and as I expected, I got banned. This fracturing led directly to the abandonment of further SPWaW development by Matrix. I told them the truth, and they didn't like it, so I'm now persona non grata over there. So be it. Free speech in a public forum does have limitations, and both Matrix and the Depot have differing interpretations of how it should be defined.

[JJKettunen]

ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

Rich, the SPWaW Depot is crying out for people who want to denigrate Matrix. You're probably already a member.

I said my piece about those guys fracturing the community, and as I expected, I got banned. This fracturing led directly to the abandonment of further SPWaW development by Matrix. I told them the truth, and they didn't like it, so I'm now persona non grata over there. So be it. Free speech in a public forum does have limitations, and both Matrix and the Depot have differing interpretations of how it should be defined.

I have never ever seen this much BS in a single post here before.

[Hexed Gamer]

Hmm well Rich, nice as it might seem, you "protecting" my freedom of speech here and all, but you need to know something, there is NO freedom of speech here.

So your support is hmm, well, noted, but you need to keep what I just said in mind.

David could tell either of us in a second (or not and just do it too) that we were banned from here and poof gone no rights no appeals you get the idea I hope.

This forum is private property and I am just a guest on it.

On the matter of name change though, no it wasn't as you said though.
My posts that caused OTHERS so much trouble, made it no longer worth my time to worry about the old persona.
I still have the respect of the people that are important to me.
If the people that are NOT important to me don't wish to respect me, well hey, that's their business eh.

I am not interested in saying what others want to hear.
I am interested only in saying what I feel I need to say.
And if it does any good, cool. If not, well I at least stood up to be counted.

I am no ones dog.

[Hexed Gamer]

ORIGINAL: Keke

ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

Rich, the SPWaW Depot is crying out for people who want to denigrate Matrix. You're probably already a member.

I said my piece about those guys fracturing the community, and as I expected, I got banned. This fracturing led directly to the abandonment of further SPWaW development by Matrix. I told them the truth, and they didn't like it, so I'm now persona non grata over there. So be it. Free speech in a public forum does have limitations, and both Matrix and the Depot have differing interpretations of how it should be defined.

I have never ever seen this much BS in a single post here before.

You must not get around the forums much Keke

[KG Erwin]

ORIGINAL: Keke

ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

Rich, the SPWaW Depot is crying out for people who want to denigrate Matrix. You're probably already a member.

I said my piece about those guys fracturing the community, and as I expected, I got banned. This fracturing led directly to the abandonment of further SPWaW development by Matrix. I told them the truth, and they didn't like it, so I'm now persona non grata over there. So be it. Free speech in a public forum does have limitations, and both Matrix and the Depot have differing interpretations of how it should be defined.

I have never ever seen this much BS in a single post here before.

Sorry, Keke. Everything I said in this post is true. It's all a moot point, though, as the community will remain divided and I'm glad that I no longer have "Mod" as a bullseye for my forehead. Despite that, I will remain a Matrix supporter. If having loyalty to the work I supported and contributed to is regarded as a bad thing, then fire away. How much did YOU contribute to the game's development over the years?

[Orzel Bialy]

Rich, the SPWaW Depot is crying out for people who want to denigrate Matrix.

As usual (and expected) you have a hard time telling the complete truth Gunny. I'll even go so far as to say that you are a liar in regard to the above quote Glenn.

The DEPOT is around because of peoples love for the game. We design and promote scenarios for SPWaW and look to foster other projects that community involvement. We also chat, joke and try to help out our fellow community members who may have questions about the game.

So to the contrary of your claim, the DEPOT does not seek out people to build some secret society designed to denigrate Matrix. That is only in your dillusional mind, the same one that conjured up the invisible "enemies" that played a role in your downfall as moderator.

The big difference between here and the DEPOT is simply we maintain a forum where people can speak their mind and air any frustrations without having to worry about others jumping down their throats and questioning their "loyality" over it. Just like in real life there are some negative issues that come to the surface, but we also have threads that thank MatrixGames and the people who do volunteer work. So the difference between the two forums in my opinion is tolerance...but that should be for people to decide on their own not for you to dictate.

Anyway, the DEPOT came into being partly because MG stated numerous times both during the creation and after the release of MCSE that they were not going to do any further work on SPWaW. In fact a search of the forum could probably produce some of the statements. It was not created (as you accused) by Bernie with the intent to fracture the community. It was created to serve the community once MG had decided to stop supporting SPWaW...plain and simple. So your claim (and MG's if they are now actually saying that behind closed doors) about the DEPOT being a reason for MG's abandoning SPWaW is a bunch of BS unless someone from MG would like to make that an official stance.

(Any such revelation (if verified) would certianly be news to us. Especially since Bernie had spoke to David Heath just recently about the game and its future and this little tid-bit never came up.)

As for your banning Glenn, you got the axe for acting like a lunatic by posting a rambling thread accusing Bernie and the DEPOT as being responsible for MG deciding not to work on SPWaW anymore (again despite the fact that they publicly have announced that several time in the past year and a half)...and intentionally dividing the community. All of which is pure nonsense.

Not to mention this was after you had already been warned twice about coming over and trying to tell us how to run our forum (and telling people what they could post) as well as trying to smear the DEPOT's character with the same type of scare tatics in your posts here.

I'll end with that ...because truth be told, you are a scary character at times Glenn.

[KG Erwin]

ORIGINAL: Orzel Bialy

Rich, the SPWaW Depot is crying out for people who want to denigrate Matrix.

As usual (and expected) you have a hard time telling the complete truth Gunny. I'll even go so far as to say that you are a liar in regard to the above quote Glenn.

The DEPOT is around because of peoples love for the game. We design and promote scenarios for SPWaW and look to foster other projects that community involvement. We also chat, joke and try to help out our fellow community members who may have questions about the game.

So to the contrary of your claim, the DEPOT does not seek out people to build some secret society designed to denigrate Matrix. That is only in your dillusional mind, the same one that conjured up the invisible "enemies" that played a role in your downfall as moderator.

The big difference between here and the DEPOT is simply we maintain a forum where people can speak their mind and air any frustrations without having to worry about others jumping down their throats and questioning their "loyality" over it. Just like in real life there are some negative issues that come to the surface, but we also have threads that thank MatrixGames and the people who do volunteer work. So the difference between the two forums in my opinion is tolerance...but that should be for people to decide on their own not for you to dictate.

Anyway, the DEPOT came into being partly because MG stated numerous times both during the creation and after the release of MCSE that they were not going to do any further work on SPWaW. In fact a search of the forum could probably produce some of the statements. It was not created (as you accused) by Bernie with the intent to fracture the community. It was created to serve the community once MG had decided to stop supporting SPWaW...plain and simple. So your claim (and MG's if they are now actually saying that behind closed doors) about the DEPOT being a reason for MG's abandoning SPWaW is a bunch of BS unless someone from MG would like to make that an official stance.

(Any such revelation (if verified) would certianly be news to us. Especially since Bernie had spoke to David Heath just recently about the game and its future and this little tid-bit never came up.)

As for your banning Glenn, you got the axe for acting like a lunatic by posting a rambling thread accusing Bernie and the DEPOT as being responsible for MG deciding not to work on SPWaW anymore (again despite the fact that they publicly have announced that several time in the past year and a half)...and intentionally dividing the community. All of which is pure nonsense.

Not to mention this was after you had already been warned twice about coming over and trying to tell us how to run our forum (and telling people what they could post) as well as trying to smear the DEPOT's character with the same type of scare tatics in your posts here.

I'll end with that ...because truth be told, you are a scary character at times Glenn.

Orzel, I've never been called "scary" before, by anyone I've ever known. What do you mean by that? Your tone indicates that I have some sort of power or influence over events that I definitely do not possess. I'm just a gamer, and I have no desire to control the game or gain access to
the source code. Others have expressed that desire, but I won't mention any names.

[KG Erwin]

As for the Depot, there's some good stuff happening over there-- new infantry icons which I use, and new vehicle icons (they are wrong in scale and are too small but still look good). Nevertheless, they need to put their egos in check and realize that without Matrix and SPWaW, they would not exist.

[Orzel Bialy]

Gunny, what the Hell is the big deal with you about the DEPOT inquiring about the code? That is the third time that you have referenced that as if it was something sinister. "Won't name names"...my God, snap out of this state of mind already or grow the Hell up already Glenn.

Is the news that we asked about the code supposed to make us blush? or tremble with fear? So what if we asked about the possible access to the code in order to see if there was a chance that the game could be further refined on such things like graphics, the number of unit slots and nationality characteristics? I'm sure it wasn't the first time an interested party made the inquiry.

You try to make it sound like we were going to profit from getting the code, when that isn't possible due the well known legal terms that SSI put on the original SP game codes use.

Have any other issues you need explaining?

ps...as for the scale of some of the icons...if all the AFV's were scaled properly for 50 yards Gunny none of the versions of icons would be correct.

[Hexed Gamer]

The big difference between here and the DEPOT is simply we maintain a forum where people can speak their mind and air any frustrations without having to worry about others jumping down their throats and questioning their "loyality" over it.

Hmm, you can just like this or not Orzel (and the rest of the Depot too), but you banned him for what, speaking his mind?

But didn't you just say people were supposed to be capable of doing that?

Or can you honestly expect to say one thing and then mean another?

Gunny is not the only long time veteran to get this "come here its your home so long as you know who's boss and don't say anything to make the boss or his buddies angry" treatment eh.

You did it to me as well.

It felt just as much a betrayal too I don't mind.

I am not calling you a liar for what I just quoted, merely saying you don't even look at what you type.

There is only one place KG would feel he was truely home I suppose, on a forum he made himself where he would not need to ponder if he really was able to speak his mind without fear it would later be held against him.