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RE: Damaged BB's sink en route to West Coast

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I started a CG as the Allies recently. I was gratified when the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor resulted in no sinkings. ....
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As an aside, in all the one day PH attacks I've simulated I've never been able to recreate the number of BB losses inflicted as happened in R/L.

Are there 'standard'/recommended changes to the initial PH CV attack used to better achieve the historical results?

Thanks!
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I started a CG as the Allies recently. I was gratified when the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor resulted in no sinkings. ....
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As an aside, in all the one day PH attacks I've simulated I've never been able to recreate the number of BB losses inflicted as happened in R/L.

Are there 'standard'/recommended changes to the initial PH CV attack used to better achieve the historical results?

Thanks!

It's a crap shoot. Try Pry's scenario 16 which starts Dec 8/41
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Also keep in mind that SYS of 90+ is the equivalent of being "sunk" in the shallow water of PH.
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Only 1 BB was sunk, never to be raised (historically), the Arizona. Even the Oklahoma, after it was raised, there was -brief- discussion to to refit her. Due to the time and cost. and her slow speed, it was deemed not worth it, so she was scrappped.

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RE: Damaged BB's sink en route to West Coast

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It's a crap shoot. Try Pry's scenario 16 which starts Dec 8/41
Ah! I thought it was just a crappy shoot (by me [:D]).

I was also thinking that (Intel being what it is, or isn't) I might not have been informed of the 'true' results.

I may go for Pry's after I've mastered ([8|]) Scenario 15. I've only tried 1 PBEM so far, and it's been a humbling experience (mainly from a logistics point of view).

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Only 1 BB was sunk, never to be raised (historically), the Arizona. Even the Oklahoma, after it was raised, there was -brief- discussion to to refit her. Due to the time and cost. and her slow speed, it was deemed not worth it, so she was scrappped.

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I guess sunk is a relative term. In WitP terminology, it means sunk/lost. In the historical record, sunk ships can be raised and refitted.

Curious how many veteran Japanese players stick around a 2nd day to effect more 'WitP' sinkings....
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Curious how many veteran Japanese players stick around a 2nd day to effect more 'WitP' sinkings....

What's so curious about it? Having come so far and caused so much damage on the first day, it only makes sense to hit PH again when it is at its weakest....
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Only 1 BB was sunk, never to be raised (historically), the Arizona. Even the Oklahoma, after it was raised, there was -brief- discussion to to refit her. Due to the time and cost. and her slow speed, it was deemed not worth it, so she was scrappped.

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Oklahoma actually foundered on the way.
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What's so curious about it? Having come so far and caused so much damage on the first day, it only makes sense to hit PH again when it is at its weakest....

That seemed reasonable to me too, but I had to balance out the potential gains against the sure losses of more of my best (and limited) pilots in the better prepared 2nd day strikes. So (in my first PBEM) I played it 'historical'. I may choose otherwise in my next...[;)]

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Hi, The manual says "Damaged ships check every turn for more damage. The amount depends on current damage and whether a ship is in port or not" (along with Nationality,crew and other factors)
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RE: manual

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Hi, The manual says "Damaged ships check every turn for more damage. The amount depends on current damage and whether a ship is in port or not" (along with Nationality,crew and other factors)

Ah! Makes sense that damage begets damage (in some cases). And without good Recon/Intel, the Japanese would not know about the eventual disposition of these ships....
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