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Hi

In devices there are 3 marine squads available on 1941, 1942 and 1943 what you are seeing are old squads probably 1941's and a newer squad 1942's

T34/85's should only see one as there is only one t34/85 in the database
so what happens to old squads.. seems kind hinkie to me.. are the "usable" or just so much garbach littering the proverbial landscape?
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so what happens to old squads.. seems kind hinkie to me.. are the "usable" or just so much garbach littering the proverbial landscape?

Old squads should get upgraded to new squads (given enough supply, etc.)
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rtrapasso thanks.. I am looking at my recent losses and trying to figure out if my units will be restored... PI campiegn in 44 against Zeta is a troop sucker[:@]
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Hi, T-34/85 is a T-34 tank with a 85mm gun rather then the earlier 75 or 76mm gun.

And not just that!!!

The original T-34 with 75 or 76 mm gun was not super-tank many people think it was. Instead it was not good fighting vehicle at all because of rather poor internal design!


Let me explain:

The T-34 with 75 or 76 mm gun had extremely narrow turret rim which meant that just two (2) men were inside turret. The tank commander was also a gunner (i.e. same man doing 2 completely different tasks at same time) and alongside him there was room for only one other man in turret - loader.

Add to this fact that there was no radio in tank (except for command ones) and you get tank force with limited info about situation around.

The French Somua S-35 (which was also considered one of the most formidably armored and armed tanks in 1940) had very same mistake.

On contrary Germans in 1940 (in war with the French) and in 1941/1942 (in war with Russians) had tanks with inferior mechanics, inferior amour and inferior guns but they always had 3 man turrets (commander, gunner and loader). Also all German tanks had radios (command ones had two-way radios while rest had just receiving radio at the start of the war).

When you put 2 + 2 together (from info above) you can, therefore, quickly see additional info why Germans had so much success with their inferior tanks at the beginning of WWII. Yes, they also had superior tactics but their tanks, even inferior in many ways, proved 100x better in actual combat...


Leo "Apollo11"


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T-34/85 had big turret (at least 2x bigger than T-34 with 75 or 76 mm gun) and 3 men inside - the Russians learned their lessons hard...
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When an LCU is scheduled to arrive as a reinforcement, first thing that happens is it checks to see whether you have enough devices/squads or armaments/vehicle/manpower points in your pools to fill out the unit to full strength. If you have points available, the unit fills out to whatever extent it can, up to 100%. If you don't have the points, it arrives at 25% strength (free points!) and then will fill out (or not) per the normal replacement rules. This tells me your pools are low on armaments points, or manpower points, or both.

well, in my PBEM i have a huge surplus of HI, supplies, ARmament points and vehicles. and every new unit which comes as reinforcement comes understrengh. so i think manual is wrong: any new unit come understengh regardless of the numbers in your pool.
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well, in my PBEM i have a huge surplus of HI, supplies, ARmament points and vehicles. and every new unit which comes as reinforcement comes understrengh. so i think manual is wrong: any new unit come understengh regardless of the numbers in your pool.
That is very strange. I recently had 5 IJA divisions arrive in China; they appeared at full strength. My pools were emptied, but I was glad to have the LCUs. I wonder what is happening in your game.
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Careful here, talk about which *side* you are playing. Japan has to actually *produce* stuff, the Allies do not.
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well, in my PBEM i have a huge surplus of HI, supplies, ARmament points and vehicles. and every new unit which comes as reinforcement comes understrengh. so i think manual is wrong: any new unit come understengh regardless of the numbers in your pool.
That is very strange. I recently had 5 IJA divisions arrive in China; they appeared at full strength. My pools were emptied, but I was glad to have the LCUs. I wonder what is happening in your game.

I stand corrected. The unit in China come always at full strengh.

However, all the units for SRA (the ones which come in Tokyo) always come understrengh. I noticed that in all my games. and my armament pool is at 15k, my vehicle pool is at 2500, my HI pool is at 400k.
Engineers, base forces, SNLF...anything. always at zero strengh. they always short of SNLF squads and support.

Usually it takes me 1 month or more to get those to full strengh. and only 5-6 at times (meaning i have to not reinforce any other unit). otherwise it takes forver.

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Strange, in my last PBEM I extended my armament factory and some of the units arriving in Japan are at 100% while other (some base forces) are at 25%. I haven't received any division in China yet but they will arrive this month (Feb 42) so I will see what happens here.
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What happened when you clik on Show TOE? I have had units look like that but when the TOE is clicked more squads show.

As you can see on the screenshot, the TOE is activated

Harrer

Just a minor point, but it can be confusing -- when you see Show Unit TOE next to the button, that means you have to click that button to see TOE, not that TOE is now showing. This type confusion left me without production as Japan in my first game -- when I thought RESTART meant restarted, and HALT meant halted....[8|]
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Just a minor point, but it can be confusing -- when you see Show Unit TOE next to the button, that means you have to click that button to see TOE, not that TOE is now showing. This type confusion left me without production as Japan in my first game -- when I thought RESTART meant restarted, and HALT meant halted....

Yes, but other times it means what it says. When "accept replacements" shows, that means that the unit IS accepting replacements. I think when it says allow upgrades, that means the upgrades are allowed - you don't clik on it. There are other examples, too. You can't look at things are figure them out many times. You have to

The game interface is EXTREMELY confusing at times.
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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso
Just a minor point, but it can be confusing -- when you see Show Unit TOE next to the button, that means you have to click that button to see TOE, not that TOE is now showing. This type confusion left me without production as Japan in my first game -- when I thought RESTART meant restarted, and HALT meant halted....

Yes, but other times it means what it says. When "accept replacements" shows, that means that the unit IS accepting replacements. I think when it says allow upgrades, that means the upgrades are allowed - you don't clik on it. There are other examples, too. You can't look at things are figure them out many times. You have to

The game interface is EXTREMELY confusing at times.

Yeah I agree, and sorry for the confusion. I gave the TOE some posts later as you can see BraveHome [;)]

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Just a minor point, but it can be confusing -- when you see Show Unit TOE next to the button, that means you have to click that button to see TOE, not that TOE is now showing. This type confusion left me without production as Japan in my first game -- when I thought RESTART meant restarted, and HALT meant halted....

Yes, but other times it means what it says. When "accept replacements" shows, that means that the unit IS accepting replacements. I think when it says allow upgrades, that means the upgrades are allowed - you don't clik on it. There are other examples, too. You can't look at things are figure them out many times. You have to

The game interface is EXTREMELY confusing at times.
At times?? [:D]
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Yeah I agree, and sorry for the confusion. I gave the TOE some posts later as you can see BraveHome [;)]

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Yeah I agree, and sorry for the confusion. I gave the TOE some posts later as you can see BraveHome [;)]

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso
Just a minor point, but it can be confusing -- when you see Show Unit TOE next to the button, that means you have to click that button to see TOE, not that TOE is now showing. This type confusion left me without production as Japan in my first game -- when I thought RESTART meant restarted, and HALT meant halted....

Yes, but other times it means what it says. When "accept replacements" shows, that means that the unit IS accepting replacements. I think when it says allow upgrades, that means the upgrades are allowed - you don't clik on it. There are other examples, too. You can't look at things are figure them out many times. You have to

The game interface is EXTREMELY confusing at times.
At times?? [:D]

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I was trying to be nice![:D]

An interesting perspective on being 'nice':

"If you feed a thousand people you are a nice man with suspicious motives. If you kill a thousand you are a hero. Continue to get them killed by the thousands and you are a great conqueror than which nothing on earth is greater. Oppress them and you are a great ruler. Rob them by law and they are proud and happy if you let them glimpse you occasionally surrounded by the riches that you have trampled out of their hides. You are truly divine if you meet their weakness with the sword to slay and the dogs to tear. The only time you run great risk is when you serve them. The most repulsive thing to all men is gratitude. Men give up property, freedom and even life before they will have the obligation laid on them."

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I was trying to be nice![:D]

An interesting perspective on being 'nice':

"If you feed a thousand people you are a nice man with suspicious motives. If you kill a thousand you are a hero. Continue to get them killed by the thousands and you are a great conqueror than which nothing on earth is greater. Oppress them and you are a great ruler. Rob them by law and they are proud and happy if you let them glimpse you occasionally surrounded by the riches that you have trampled out of their hides. You are truly divine if you meet their weakness with the sword to slay and the dogs to tear. The only time you run great risk is when you serve them. The most repulsive thing to all men is gratitude. Men give up property, freedom and even life before they will have the obligation laid on them."

Zora Neale Hurston

So - are you (or Zora, anyway) saying that it's not nice to be nice?[X(][&:]
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So - are you (or Zora, anyway) saying that it's not nice to be nice?[X(][&:]

No, I think she was speaking with heavy irony of the tendancy of mankind to lionize men of 'power' over those who selflessly seek to do good.

She was a fascinating figure in early African American literature, a person both in tune and out of tune with the pressing issues of her day. For an brief glimpse into her life and influence, see

http://www.lkwdpl.org/wihohio/hurs-zorx.htm
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