When does an AI Nation surrender?

[ArnaudB]

ON the same subkect. Playing France in 1792 I managed to have Austria and Prussia sue for peace. I had 5,500 points for each treaty. then I was at war with Spain, and won, and again 5,500^points. Is this a maximum? Because with Spain I had conquered three provinces and had a diplomat more, I thought I read in the manual that DIplomats ans conquered province had an impact on surredering terms. ALso When I win battles i neer get more than 6 glory points even if there are over 20 000 thousands deads. I thoght the maximum was 10 ?

The young one on the picture is the future of the empire ! heir to the throne of France.

[ArnaudB]

As you see I type too fast... apologies

[Dayvit781]

ORIGINAL: ArnaudB

ON the same subkect. Playing France in 1792 I managed to have Austria and Prussia sue for peace. I had 5,500 points for each treaty. then I was at war with Spain, and won, and again 5,500^points. Is this a maximum? Because with Spain I had conquered three provinces and had a diplomat more, I thought I read in the manual that DIplomats ans conquered province had an impact on surredering terms. ALso When I win battles i neer get more than 6 glory points even if there are over 20 000 thousands deads. I thoght the maximum was 10 ?

The young one on the picture is the future of the empire ! heir to the throne of France.

I've had treaties with 7500 points and once (or a few times) a 10,000 points. I don't know what affects it, but I just accept whatever they give me when they surrender, usually when I or someone else conquer their capital. But I also try to fight a real war and take the provinces along the way.

I've seen huge glory swings from battles. As the manual says, you gain glory for inflicting casualties and lose it for sustaining them (makes sense). So I usually see battles between 8-32. But if both sides started the battle with over 100,000 troops, that doubles it, so I've seen huge swings come from those major battles. I really enjoy that part of the system. If yhou fight a major battle, you better win or your country could be going down the tubes soon. (because you not only lose morale, but all those men - pretty soon, you've got nothing left... riots, insurrections) FUN STUFF!

[Grand_Armee]

Holding control of their capital province i.e., repeatedly knocking back the relief forces, even if the city hasn't fallen does lead to surrender, it seems. France, 1814? Yep, makes sense to me. I had to fight 9 battles as the Prussians at Ile' de France for French to sue for peace. There were still 9k militia in the city.

Heh, luckily I'd just released some 50K Austrian prisoners who even joined me on detailed battles. I couldn't control them, but they were helpful when they weren't fixated on some garrison unit. They also gave up 1/2 of the casualties whenever we breached the walls, so 8k French killed only meant 8k Prussians and a like number of Austrians.

The more I play this game, the more I like it. Get rid of a few bugs and far reaching cossacks, and it'll be perfect. Might not need to buy EIA afterall. (just kidding)