OT: Battle of Midway

[Twotribes]

People like him dont go to madcows because they arent protected by the moderators and board policy, their uninformed rants and ideas can be dstroyed at Madcows, and thats not the point,

[doktorblood]

[GaryChildress]

ORIGINAL: Twotribes

People like him dont go to madcows because they arent protected by the moderators and board policy, their uninformed rants and ideas can be dstroyed at Madcows, and thats not the point,

Great. I'm accused of having "uninformed rants and ideas" by a guy who can't even complete a sentence with proper punctuation. Pick your knuckles up off the ground Twotribes. (Oh and here's a little winkie to show I'm only kidding and not really engaging in anything political) [;)]

[ctangus]

I myself found the "article" humorous.

I think we can safely say, without getting political, that today's media emphasizes the negative. The US news would stress the casualties & other bad news in Iraq whether Bush launched the war or Clinton. (Or FDR or Eisenhower for that matter.) While I personally thought the war in Iraq wasn't justified, I'm sure there are many stories of restoring the infrastructure, etc. that are just not getting reported.

We can see it in our daily papers. The latest fire, murder, rape gets the headlines, but where's the story of the neighborhood minister successfully tutoring children?

[Mike Scholl]

ORIGINAL: Gary Childress
Great. I'm accused of having "uninformed rants and ideas" by a guy who can't even complete a sentence with proper punctuation. Pick your knuckles up off the ground Twotribes. (Oh and here's a little winkie to show I'm only kidding and not really engaging in anything political) [;)]

Only thing I'd accuse you of is being wound awfully tight and lacking a sense of humor.

[GaryChildress]

ORIGINAL: Mike Scholl

ORIGINAL: Gary Childress
Great. I'm accused of having "uninformed rants and ideas" by a guy who can't even complete a sentence with proper punctuation. Pick your knuckles up off the ground Twotribes. (Oh and here's a little winkie to show I'm only kidding and not really engaging in anything political) [;)]

Only thing I'd accuse you of is being wound awfully tight and lacking a sense of humor.

Speak for yourself... [:'(]

[Nikademus]

The really interesting point of an article like this has nothing to do with left, right or center. [;)]

Whats interesting (well to me anyway) is how technology affects our perception of war. Whatever one's views, a big reason why press orgs. focus so much on casualties is because technology allows them to bring you a daily snapshot of what's going on. Back in "the day" most Americans in WWII would be lucky to receive vague weekly updates on the war "over there", allowing the press and the government to be as vague as needed (for "morale" purposes) or just report the highlights without dwelling on the human casualties.

Part of the reason why wars occur in the first place is because people get nieve notions about what it entails.....they focus on the adventure or the excitement. (that or with a lack of info....it can be easier be put out of their minds)

WWI is arguably the greatest example of this. Vietnam could arguably be used as an example of the opposite. The North Vietnamese understood this.....bring the war to each American's home, irregardless of who's winning what battles. It has good and bad effects. The good comes in making people realize that war is a messy business that should be avoided if at all possible. The bad comes from some orgs or governments wanting to use it to try to psyche out the "Enemy"

As for the article. I've little doubt that the press would have focused on the TBD slaughter even in victory for the US. lol....can see it now, CNN would devote a whole episode to an "investigative report" on why these brave men had to sacrifice their lives to help bring victory.

Dont see it as right left or center....just human nature + technology (well that and ratings) [:D]

[pompack]

ORIGINAL: Gary Childress

ORIGINAL: Mike Scholl

ORIGINAL: Gary Childress
Great. I'm accused of having "uninformed rants and ideas" by a guy who can't even complete a sentence with proper punctuation. Pick your knuckles up off the ground Twotribes. (Oh and here's a little winkie to show I'm only kidding and not really engaging in anything political) [;)]

Only thing I'd accuse you of is being wound awfully tight and lacking a sense of humor.

Speak for yourself... [:'(]

Actually I think he was.

Edited to provide flame retardant. Or perhaps just to minimize flame enhancement[:D]

[mlees]

I believe that there is a possibility of a reporters opinions affecting the way he/she reports on a topic, even in a country that tries to have accurate news reporting. Afterall, they are only human. Some of it is subtle, or subconsious on the part of the reporter/editor, some of it is deliberately tilted "for" or "against".

If they hold strong feelings against the war in Iraq, for example, then reports of the casualties suffered by both sides (military and civilian) will be presented (deliberately or not) in a manner that will nudge the reader into thinking that they were needlessly tragic (They all are, I find it depressing that humans do this to each other), or criminal.

Whereas in a "just" war, like WW2, the deaths will be a little more leaning towards "tragic, but necessary".

That does not cover the possibility of a "news" agency making stuff up just for ratings... Spanish/American War, anyone?

I try to read/view these articles and reports with that realisation in mind, and come up with my own opinions based on what info I have access to...

[GaryChildress]

ORIGINAL: pompack

ORIGINAL: Gary Childress

ORIGINAL: Mike Scholl




Only thing I'd accuse you of is being wound awfully tight and lacking a sense of humor.

Speak for yourself... [:'(]

Actually I think he was.

Edited to provide flame retardant. Or perhaps just to minimize flame enhancement[:D]

No kidding. Was he really?

Woops, almost forgot the little winkie. [;)]