OT: You talk about nepotisim........

[Mynok]

Very interesting! It's fascinating to eavesdrop on other discussing their own politics, especially since it would normally be in Polish and I wouldn't have a clue what is being said. [:D]

[Sneer]

we can give you more you can stand about our political situation
<joke>there is a rule that if you find 2 Polish you can get 3 parties with them

many peoples are really frustrated Mynok
especially if you see government doing nothing in economy even if 9 months passed since elections&nbsp; , beside giving social transfers&nbsp; when budget is on high deficit

[Przemcio231]

Yeach the funny thing is that most of those Extreme Right Politics like LPR , PiS are telling the society that Poland is a besieged country and every one wants to steal from us[:D]&nbsp;and if any one try to do something that the Church don't like they scream that the times of the PRL are back or something...
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And the truth is like this that the only one stealing around is Catholic Church and some Politicians's...

[Mynok]

ORIGINAL: Sneer

we can give you more you can stand about our political situation
<joke>there is a rule that if you find 2 Polish you can get 3 parties with them

many peoples are really frustrated Mynok
especially if you see government doing nothing in economy even if 9 months passed since elections , beside giving social transfers when budget is on high deficit

[:D] Believe it or not, many, many are frustrated here in the US as well. We see megacorps buying off the political parties and no other parties can get on the ballot with any regularity thanks to the Big 2's control of the ballot entrance requirements. I won't even vote for a Democrat or Republican, which means I haven't voted in years. [:(]

And now perhaps we have put the final nail in this thread's coffin! [:D] [:D]

[Sneer]

Przemcio I don't really care about ideology / religion
if sb's faith is strong he can spend his time and wealth this way
i'm interested in strong cabinet with professionals supporting it in parliament
Goverment able to solve main economical problems and give good conditions for country in long run
hunting ex communists 16 years after its fall is not main polish problem i recognize as they are not a threat to the democratic system. I'd like to see economy expanding with fiscal policy easing as it is only way to lower unemployment and make people satisfied

i hate when sb loose time of electors and solve only popularity problems ( buying certain social groups with state money) and it is problem in last 8-10 years and escalates

[Przemcio231]

Well your right sneer i don't care if some one is Catholic , Protestant , Jew or Muslim that is his choice and his life but i care when state gives money to teach religion in public shools , when state gives money to build churches , when state gives the&nbsp;church&nbsp;land for free , or when&nbsp;hides crimes of priests before public!!! &nbsp;

[Speedysteve]

ORIGINAL: Mynok


Very interesting! It's fascinating to eavesdrop on other discussing their own politics, especially since it would normally be in Polish and I wouldn't have a clue what is being said. [:D]

So true Mynok. So true[:)]

[Sneer]

ORIGINAL: Speedy

ORIGINAL: Mynok


Very interesting! It's fascinating to eavesdrop on other discussing their own politics, especially since it would normally be in Polish and I wouldn't have a clue what is being said. [:D]

So true Mynok. So true[:)]

for outsiders yes ... but when you are close ... it is not funny
sometimes me and my friends think about living in another country
quite a lot of Polish decided to work abroad - 5% of whole population in 2 years - maybe even up to 10% of all workforce
many of them will not return as there is little incentive and they are often educated and easily adapting , something that is really needed in our country otherwise each new government will be worse
as rest of us will have to pay for strange ideas

[Przemcio231]

When i thinking of leaving to but well where in Europe they need Lawyers??[:D]

[Monter_Trismegistos]

ORIGINAL: Sneer
there is left wing - SLD is no center party and it have never been as well as PO is not liberal
there is nothing on liberal wing since UPR times
sorry Monter but I see it this way - i'm in upper tax bracket and don't feel rich

It is obvious that SLD cannot be left-wing because it does not make any attempt to behave like true left-wing party. Only left-wing party in poland was named as I remember Unia Lewicy or something, now is Racja Polskiej Lewicy.

My personal feeling is at first let the poor eat, only after that let richer buy yachts..

Also main problem of Polish political scene, that despite different parties, ruling politicians are the same. Politicians often changing parties is nothing unusual in Poland. So is the reason that programmes are virtually the same.
We can choose betwen many center and not liberal not conservative parties.

Sneer, you are from Poland?

[Sneer]

I think you live in another Poland&nbsp;
where do you see yachts ?????????
100? 200? 300? for 40 milion people country ???

i think I understand
problem is you are left and I'm right thinking
you want protection and I want liberalism
so we will never have agreement on this issue

[Speedysteve]

ORIGINAL: Sneer
quite a lot of Polish decided to work abroad - 5% of whole population in 2 years - maybe even up to 10% of all workforce
many of them will not return as there is little incentive and they are often educated and easily adapting , something that is really needed in our country otherwise each new government will be worse
as rest of us will have to pay for strange ideas

Hi Sneer,

Yes. There are a quite a lot of Polish people living in Reading. On the main road I live off there are several Polish shops now - Food shop and several convenience stores.

[Sneer]

Quite a lot of people moved to UK and Ireland
I have too good job + family obligations to think about moving abroad but still many things home make me very nervous

[Marten]

all you've said here is a sad truth (for at last quite intelligent man). unfortunatly evil twin brothers have enough supporters to win election and rule the country. things would have been different if people werent that dissapointed at former goverments. dissapointment was so great that A LOT of them decided to stay at home during election, while those who wishes to vote for brothers (minority realy )kept on voting. in my opinion brothers werent prepared for victory. all the polls before elections stated that PiS will be second strongest party in parlament. but they won and we are knee deep in sh#@!... i'm giving myself a year maybe and preparing for departure. [:(]

anyone care for t-shirt?

[pauk]

ORIGINAL: Mynok

we can give you more you can stand about our political situation
<joke>there is a rule that if you find 2 Polish you can get 3 parties with them

Same joke exist in Croatia...

[Cmdrcain]

Too weird and I wonder how Confusing it might be for either to be mistaken for other... Hey MR president...
And reply I'M NOT the president I'm the Premier...oopss.. gulug?

I knew Identitical twin girls in grade schoo... they were wicked... just wicked about fooling people claiming to be one or other till our heads spun..

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[BaitBoy]

Cone over to the U.S. We can alwayse use another lawyer here!!![:D]

[Sneer]

US were dream country 10 years ago now number of people who think so drastically decreased

[Monter_Trismegistos]

ORIGINAL: Bait Boy
Cone over to the U.S. We can alwayse use another lawyer here[:D]

... for removing asbestos. [:D]

[captskillet]

Prz..........I would welcome you to US but we damn sure dont need anymore lawyers!!!! [;)]