Questions about Panzer Corps

[JustAGame]

Originally posted by RickyB:
The Soviets actually formed Mobile Groups throughout the war, at least beginning in the spring of 1942. Basically they would take the mobile formations (tank, mechanized and cavalry) in a regular army and form them into a "mobile" group, which was typically named after the commander. For example, there was a Group Bobkin used during the second battle of Kharkov in May 1942, which consisted of some of the mobile elements of the southern wing of the Soviet attack. These groups were used at Stalingrad, during the Soviets follow up attacks during the winter of 1942-1943 that almost reached the Dnepr before Manstein counterattacked, etc.

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I imagine this is comparable to the German Kampfgruppe. These kampfgruppen were organized for specific operational tasks.

[RickyB]

Originally posted by JustAGame:
I imagine this is comparable to the German Kampfgruppe. These kampfgruppen were organized for specific operational tasks.

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Yes, but on a larger scale, I believe. Group Bobkin, for example, consisted of 1-2 cavalry corps, and probably 2 tanks corps, equivalent to two strong panzer divisions. Also, they were normally (or maybe always?) organized in advance to participate in an offensive, but I do not know that for sure. For example, I have no clue if the Soviets created one for the mobile actions fought around Voronezh during the initial stages of Fall Blau in 1942. Interesting question.

[Ed Cogburn]

Originally posted by RickyB:
Also, they were normally (or maybe always?) organized in advance to participate in an offensive, but I do not know that for sure. For example, I have no clue if the Soviets created one for the mobile actions fought around Voronezh during the initial stages of Fall Blau in 1942. Interesting question.

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http://www.theminiaturespage.com/rules/ww2/coasups.html


This mentions a Soviet mobile group on the defensive in '41. Its a scenario for some game, but it doesn't say if the scenario is fictional or not.

[Ranger-75]

Josan, I wasn't singling you out with the Korp/Korps note. A lot of people make the same mistake, even Gary Grigsby himself in his manuals incorrectly uses corp (or korp). Being a soldier, it bugs me to see it. I make typing mistakes too, but this one bugs me more than the average typo because it is an actual misuse of the word. I never comment on typos, (because I make so many myself).

Actually there seem to be a lot of folks here with a wide variety of knowledge of the Eastern front in WWII. It's good to see this much discussion even though it's also unfortunate that much of our writing is about problems in the game mechanics.

So keep on posting...
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[Josans]

Originally posted by Mike Santos:
Josan, I wasn't singling you out with the Korp/Korps note. A lot of people make the same mistake, even Gary Grigsby himself in his manuals incorrectly uses corp (or korp). Being a soldier, it bugs me to see it. I make typing mistakes too, but this one bugs me more than the average typo because it is an actual misuse of the word. I never comment on typos, (because I make so many myself).

Actually there seem to be a lot of folks here with a wide variety of knowledge of the Eastern front in WWII. It's good to see this much discussion even though it's also unfortunate that much of our writing is about problems in the game mechanics.

So keep on posting...
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Mike, I still dont understand why did you correct me.I thought you were annoy with me... but no problem and give me five <img src="wink.gif" border="0">