Red Storm rising.. Aztez (J) vs Ctangus (A) CHS 155

[aztez]

ORIGINAL: pionkki

Aircraft pools aren't looking good at all.

How's your pilot pool?

To be honest not much better either... [:D][8|] ..but I'am committed and this battle will continue to bitter end.

[aztez]

This is how the score looks like after these fierce fighting in Russia. Notice the aircraft losses mounting for both sides.

[trollelite]

For my incoming Russian campaign, your game is a good reference. I also find some good thing and some warning.
 
The good thing is, even latest russian fighters cannot stand up to zero, as I would definetely go after my IJAAF equipped with tojo and Hien, I can hope to enjoy a rather significent uphand in fighter duel. The warning is, as already consided, those russian short range fighter-interceptors often group in mass. Should avoid to loose those hells if you cannot send enough escorts. One or two targets a time.

[aztez]

trollelite: Thanks for the comments. Here are my tips for you...
 
a) Russian fighters actually can stand up to the Zero's. (As can a lot of the allied fighters)
 
b) See above. Start your Russian campaign ASAP. I mean get it rolling at end of February or latest early March. Why? You get the early benefit of Zero bonus and your ground troops can put up an fight.
 
Definately correct about those interceptors. They are menace.. I have now withdrawn from Heiho and Hailar due to this conclusion.
 
I'am having definate troubles with my production and demand issues...
 
I need fighters ASAP.. and  alot of them very quickly. I had to downgrade a lot aircraft last turn due to the lack of fighters. (My bomber pools are ugly too BUT I can live with them due to rotation)
 
So, how to go about this??? I'am complete rookie when it comes to production! [8|][:(] ...I have Tojo's coming up in production but do the Oscar factories autoupgrade to Tojo's??? Doesn't seem to be the case.
 
What comes to mind is that after next turn I will shutdown most of my bomber production at Home Islands.
 
As for the turn.. well got definately some very bad die rolls last turn... that is the way of life though.
 
 
Game date is 23rd of July 1942
 
 
Russia
 
 
Heiho
 
 
Day Air attack on Heiho , at 66,25
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 18
Ki-27 Nate x 34
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 7
 
Allied aircraft
I-16 Type 24 x 52
MiG-3 x 47
LaGG-3 x 12
IL-2 Shturmovik x 95
R-12 x 3
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 15 destroyed
Ki-27 Nate: 31 destroyed
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 7 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
I-16 Type 24: 6 destroyed, 8 damaged
MiG-3: 20 destroyed, 7 damaged
LaGG-3: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
IL-2 Shturmovik: 1 destroyed, 14 damaged
 
Japanese ground losses:
64 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
 
Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 38
 
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Day Air attack on Heiho , at 66,25
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 10
Ki-27 Nate x 8
 
Allied aircraft
I-16 Type 24 x 46
MiG-3 x 26
LaGG-3 x 11
IL-2 Shturmovik x 69
R-12 x 3
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 8 destroyed
Ki-27 Nate: 12 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
I-16 Type 24: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
MiG-3: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
LaGG-3: 2 destroyed
IL-2 Shturmovik: 2 destroyed, 21 damaged
 
Japanese ground losses:
95 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
 
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 18
 
 
Hailar
 
 
Day Air attack on Hailar , at 63,22
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 9
 
Allied aircraft
MiG-3 x 40
Pe-2 x 137
R-12 x 5
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed, 9 damaged
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 7 destroyed
Ki-46-II Dinah: 2 destroyed
C5M Babs: 1 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
MiG-3: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Pe-2: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged
R-12: 1 damaged
 
Japanese ground losses:
122 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
 
Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 17
 
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Day Air attack on Hailar , at 63,22
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3
 
Allied aircraft
MiG-3 x 39
Pe-2 x 133
R-12 x 6
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 2 destroyed
C5M Babs: 1 destroyed
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
MiG-3: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
Pe-2: 2 destroyed, 13 damaged
 
Japanese ground losses:
139 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
 
Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 21
 
 
Vladivostok
 
 
Day Air attack on Vladivostok , at 65,33
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
B5N2 Kate x 99
 
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 4 destroyed, 14 damaged
 
 
Allied ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
 
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 74
 
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Day Air attack on Vladivostok , at 65,33
 
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 34
 
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 5 damaged
 
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 16
 
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Naval bombardment of Vladivostok, at 65,33
 
Japanese Ships
CL Sendai
CA Suzuya
CA Mikuma
CA Mogami
 
 
Allied ground losses:
1383 casualties reported
Guns lost 16
Vehicles lost 1
 
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 7
Port hits 15
Port supply hits 1
 
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Naval bombardment of Vladivostok, at 65,33
 
Japanese Ships
CL Kinu
CL Isuzu
CL Kashii
CL Katori
BB Yamato
BB Yamashiro
BB Fuso
 
 
Allied ground losses:
3012 casualties reported
Guns lost 43
Vehicles lost 4
 
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 17
Port hits 19
Port supply hits 8
 
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Naval bombardment of Vladivostok, at 65,33
 
Japanese Ships
CL Yubari
CL Tatsuta
CL Tenryu
CL Tama
CA Kumano
CA Chokai
 
 
Allied ground losses:
442 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
 
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 27
Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 6
 
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Day Air attack on Vladivostok , at 65,33
 
Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 72
Ki-21-II Sally x 24
Ki-49 Helen x 52
 
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 9 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 4 damaged
 
 
Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
 
Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 105
 
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Day Air attack on Vladivostok , at 65,33
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
B5N2 Kate x 88
 
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed, 14 damaged
 
 
Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported
 
Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 47
 
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Day Air attack on Vladivostok , at 65,33
 
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 31
 
No Japanese losses
 
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 19
 
 
Iman
 
 
Day Air attack on Iman , at 67,31
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 27
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 16
Ki-51 Sonia x 67
Ki-21-II Sally x 22
 
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 destroyed, 14 damaged
Ki-21-II Sally: 3 damaged
 
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 38
 
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Day Air attack on Iman , at 67,31
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
D3A2 Val x 73
B5N2 Kate x 17
 
Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 5 destroyed, 27 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged
 
 
Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported
 
Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 84
 
 
Ok. Again some good news and some bad news. I will retreat from Heiho and Hailar since I cannot provide enough firepower there.
 
Vladivostok was hit nicely and hopefully precious resources were burned. Fingers crossed. IJA troops will enter the base next turn and I will order immediate shock assault despite the strong garrison. Currently it shows 110 000 men there. (Keep in mind though that 6 rifle divisions were routed earlier on)
 
KB is withdrawin towards Home Islands. CV Soryu need serious yard time (46% sys damage) and rest of the carriers also need an refit and repairs.
 
I think Chuck has still +500 fighters in Russia's central and Northern parts.
 
 
Burma
 
 
Day Air attack on Moulmein , at 30,34
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 141
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 100
Ki-46-II Dinah x 2
 
Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 117
Kittyhawk I x 23
P-40B Tomahawk x 33
P-40E Warhawk x 18
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 114 destroyed
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 75 destroyed
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 34 destroyed, 24 damaged
Kittyhawk I: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 33 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 9 destroyed
 
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Day Air attack on Moulmein , at 30,34
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 41
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 35
Ki-46-II Dinah x 2
 
Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 80
Kittyhawk I x 24
P-40B Tomahawk x 8
P-40E Warhawk x 9
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 39 destroyed
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 14 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 4 destroyed, 5 damaged
Kittyhawk I: 1 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 7 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged
 
 
Ouch!!! Talk about bad dice rolls... here is an excellent example. I was definately hoping to gain at least 1:1 odds here but it wasn't to be! [:(] 
 
 
Other NEWS
 
 
Balikpapan was bombed by +100 Nells/Bettys. The invasion force is grouping at Tarakan and will be on its way soon. I have some 4000-5000 assault points scattered in DEI and Southern Philippines. These troops will be deployed ASAP.
 
As described Emperor has called an emergency meeting for the cabinet. The main issue in this meeting is fighter/bomber production.

 

[Historiker]

Why haven't you relied on your bombardment TFs to close down all airfields they can reach? Relieing on them, you can spare a lot of pilots and planes - and use them elsewere which avoides counterattacks.
I would also only use ships to keep the airfields closed, whereever possible.
Moreover, why do you sweep over enemy fields, when you see he can provide a stiff resistance? If possible (that means he has not various precious targets in range wich forces you to attack) - let him come! If he shoots down fighters then, you'll keep many of the "lost" pilots, while now they are gone!
As soon as your pilots pool is empty, and the first bombing units are down to 1 or 2 experienced pilots, use your obsolete planes for the unexperienced units, and let them keep up closing airfields. Doing this, you might have more good bombers for still operational experienced units, and it's not needed to use Ki-49 over closed airfields nearby, when Ki-30, Ki-32 and Ki-51 can also do the job.
Moreover, why do you go on attacking allied AF in Burma and over PM? It seems you'll need everey single plane, so spare them, as long as there is no need. What does it help you to shoot down 40 Hurricane II and 50 P-40 in Russia? They use other pools, so you don't weaken the russians, while you weaken yourself!

Just a few thoughts by someone, who can be considered to be still some kind of noob... [;)]

[aztez]

Historiker: Hmmm. A lot questions to my sleepy eyes.
 
I have actually bombarded quite a few places with my BB's. The problem with Burma was and in many ways still is his LBA bomber superiority.  Well, I will take another look at the situation now.
 
Good points about the pilots. Definately true. The idea was and still is to prevent Chuck from having any bright ideas about counterstrikes. (..and yes it was a bad dice roll)
 
True in a way. I have 2 longterm Allied games which are now in 1945's... and one thing the allied do not have is good amount of fighters in terms of P40's. Those 40 planes will hurt him... or at least he should become more "scared".
 
 
Game date is 25th of July 1945
 
 
Russia
 
 
Vladivostok
 
 
Day Air attack on Vladivostok , at 65,33
 
Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 52
Ki-21-II Sally x 7
Ki-48-I Lily x 22
Ki-49 Helen x 51
Ki-48-II Lily x 23
 
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged
Ki-48-I Lily: 4 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 1 destroyed
Ki-48-II Lily: 1 damaged
 
 
Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
 
Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 107
 
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Day Air attack on Vladivostok , at 65,33
 
Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 75
Ki-21-II Sally x 24
Ki-48-I Lily x 17
Ki-49 Helen x 51
Ki-48-II Lily x 21
 
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 destroyed, 13 damaged
Ki-21-II Sally: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-48-I Lily: 2 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 3 damaged
Ki-48-II Lily: 1 damaged
 
 
Allied ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
 
Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 65
 
 
Hailar
 
 
Day Air attack on Hailar , at 63,22
 
Japanese aircraft
no flights
 
Allied aircraft
MiG-3 x 36
Pe-2 x 113
R-12 x 4
 
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 2 destroyed
C5M Babs: 1 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
Pe-2: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
R-12: 1 damaged
 
Japanese ground losses:
173 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
 
Airbase hits 6
Runway hits 49
 
 
Khabarovsk
 
 
Day Air attack on Khabarovsk , at 69,29
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19
A6M3 Zero x 25
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 20
Ki-51 Sonia x 74
Ki-21-II Sally x 22
Ki-46-II Dinah x 10
 
Allied aircraft
I-16 Type 24 x 12
LaGG-3 x 44
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 10 destroyed
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-51 Sonia: 8 destroyed, 26 damaged
Ki-21-II Sally: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
 
Allied aircraft losses
I-16 Type 24: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged
LaGG-3: 19 destroyed, 6 damaged
SB-2: 2 destroyed
 
Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 70
 
 
A much more peaceful turn. Both sides taking a breather but not for long.'
 
The airfield at Khabarovsk was badly mauled which was good news ofcourse.
 
IJA units have now entered the city of Vladivostok and an immediate offensive is ordered. Intresting to see what kind of results the shock assault brings. At Voroshilov we knocked down 6 level of fortifications in single turn and seized the base.
 
 
Other NEWS
 
 
I have made changes to my aircraft production in order to boost up my fighter production.
 
The invasion force will sail soon from Tarakan and hit Balikpapan.
 
I'am gathering ground units at SRA in order to completely invade the last remaining bases at Sumatra.
 

[aztez]

..and the score after last turns action.

[Historiker]

He has many Bombers, but you don't change this by fighting enemy CAP! Loosing P-40 may be costly, but if he kills twice the number of your planes, he can afford it! Moreover, you change nothing by sweeping! He can even use short ranged fighters like Hurries, which are no escort on most of the bombing rates due to range. And you even make it worse! By loosing many experienced pilots, you have nothing more to confront his Bombers with! Moreover, you can change nothing! He get's i.e. so many B-25, which you can never shoot down all
The only reason to fly over his territory now should be to close his airfields or to attack his navy, everything else is counterproductive!

I don't see any advantage on sweeping the Brits and US. In Russia it makes sense, now, but without having the land initiative, it's a useless waste of precious pilots and planes.

[aztez]

ORIGINAL: Historiker

He has many Bombers, but you don't change this by fighting enemy CAP! Loosing P-40 may be costly, but if he kills twice the number of your planes, he can afford it! Moreover, you change nothing by sweeping! He can even use short ranged fighters like Hurries, which are no escort on most of the bombing rates due to range. And you even make it worse! By loosing many experienced pilots, you have nothing more to confront his Bombers with! Moreover, you can change nothing! He get's i.e. so many B-25, which you can never shoot down all
The only reason to fly over his territory now should be to close his airfields or to attack his navy, everything else is counterproductive!

I don't see any advantage on sweeping the Brits and US. In Russia it makes sense, now, but without having the land initiative, it's a useless waste of precious pilots and planes.

Hi Historiker,

I think you are correct with your analysis.

I will definately tone down my activities elsewhere but in Russia things are going to be ugly and remain so.

As said earlier I think the biggest problem is that I should have assaulted the Russia in February. There would have Zero bonus left and thus could have gained air superiority much easier.

Also hadn't I pretty much been the worst economic general for Japanese things would look much better now!!! [8|][:(][:D]

I'am still not familiar with the aspects of economy so I think I will blunder very much.

a) I need fighters as said as soon as possible.
b) I should have halted merchant shipyards much earlier... I propably should have halted all the -rd productions too. (Propably a bit late now... and what I gather these are useless???)
c) I should have expanded the Sally production and cancelled a lot of Helen's and Lily's since these bombers are eating precious Nakajima engines. (I have pretty much done this now so I guess better now than never)

etc.. etc... so this might turn out to be a story what NOT to do with Japanese!!! [:D][:D]

Having said all this though... I'am pleased how the ground campaign got started at Russia and I have no regrets activating them.

I will also start my pilot training program in full gear now. A lot of obsolete Nate's and Claude's will be used here.

[trollelite]

Yeah, best to induce HIM to make suicide attack. But I think you have lost battle in Burma anyway.

[aztez]

ORIGINAL: trollelite

Yeah, best to induce HIM to make suicide attack. But I think you have lost battle in Burma anyway.

Yeah. The Burma was never in the TOP priority list for me. I might actually still be able to push him out somewhat easily.

I have a lot of assault value laying around and refitting around Philippines/DEI and already around 2000 assault value around Bangkok.

Basically I could build up sizeable army for this region IF I deciede to advance there.

[Historiker]

Without a massive amphibious attack behind his lines, let's say in calcutta, you'll get massive Problems!
From Burma he can bomb your ressources and the industry in Hanoi and Singapur, your harbours are also in massive danger! You must conquer Burma to protect your DEI and Indochina territory.

[Mistmatz]

Burma is always a mess. Most japanese players seem to at least try to close the Burma road to have an easier job in china. For now this isn'possible nor neccessary in this game.

If - IF! - you prevail in Russia and force the russian troops off the map this will be the additional help to clear out China and ultimatively hold Thailand/Malaya against the british/indians in Burma. This would provide a stable front for quite some time and may even free some naval offensive potential.

For now Russia should be the utmost priority, get them out and get them out quick, then Japan might stand a chance in this struggle.

[Rob Brennan UK]

ORIGINAL: Mistmatz

Burma is always a mess. Most japanese players seem to at least try to close the Burma road to have an easier job in china. For now this isn'possible nor neccessary in this game.

If - IF! - you prevail in Russia and force the russian troops off the map this will be the additional help to clear out China and ultimatively hold Thailand/Malaya against the british/indians in Burma. This would provide a stable front for quite some time and may even free some naval offensive potential.

For now Russia should be the utmost priority, get them out and get them out quick, then Japan might stand a chance in this struggle.

LOL and i thought i was a pessimist [;)]

good luck Aztez

[aztez]

First off let me say thank you to all the readers. Without your input this whole saga would feel much darker than it is otherwise.

Good hints too but unfortunately I have made some serious errors in early and now they are starting to show. [8|]

... would this game begin now and would 90% wiser and better off. Oh, well have to come in terms with reality now and I will give the best fight I can here. Time will tell how much that really is worth though.

As said thank you.


Historiker: So, basically you urge me to fight out in Burma. You suggest a landings at Calcutta??? That would be a leap to say at least.

This would need the back up from KB! ...and also massive amounts of landing vessels. Not to mention airforce cover which unfortunately I do not have! [:(] (Due to obvious screw ups with economy and bad dice rolls)

I think Chuck already has anywhere between 80 000 - 140 000 in place at Burma. With strong LBA support.

You suggested that I would naval bombard Moulmein to even the odds. Well, it is very risky operation but you cannot win if you do not try so 2 BB TF have set sail and are heading to Georgetown from where they will refuel and head out to Moulmein.

Either this is briliant operation or total disaster. We will know soon enough.


Mistmatz: You are correct. The Burma offensive is an uphill struggle but I wouldn't say that it isn't possible... as I stated to Historiker there are very concrete problems with it. Also I really don't have that much supplies laying around.

As for Russia.. well it is top priority at least until I can conquer Southern Parts. Vladivostok, Iman... I haven't seized Suchan for one simple reason. IF and hopefully WHEN I seize Vladivostok his troops might retreat into there and thus make huge amount of Russians trapped there.

I do recieve an 1 Tank division within 2 weeks + 1 IJA Division + 1 Artillery unit and 1 Engineering unit is slowly making its way into Vladivostok area.

...and IF I'am able to conquer Russia than I think my focus will turn into China. Massive amount troops there which would be in good use elsewhere too. (This scenario however ís still very much indoubt)
 
Rob: [:D][:D][:D] ...I'am not a pessimist ...only realist. [:D][:D] ...and thanks for the encouragement. Definately struggle all the way.


Oh... and Save game file is available if somebody want to look how bad things actually are... [:D][:D] ..Just PM with your email address.
 
Now to the turn... not a lot of action.. but than again not much good news either... [:D] (This is becoming an ugly habit)


Game date is 27th of July 1942

Russia


Vladivostok
 
 

Day Air attack on Vladivostok , at 65,33

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 45

Allied aircraft
MiG-3 x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 13 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
MiG-3: 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 22

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Ground combat at Vladivostok
 
Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 233936 troops, 1300 guns, 86 vehicles, Assault Value = 4637

Defending force 118559 troops, 1050 guns, 164 vehicles, Assault Value = 2063

Japanese max assault: 9164 - adjusted assault: 4824

Allied max defense: 2101 - adjusted defense: 8179

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 9)


Japanese ground losses:
15744 casualties reported
Guns lost 197
Vehicles lost 7

Allied ground losses:
876 casualties reported
Guns lost 56
Vehicles lost 1

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Day Air attack on Vladivostok , at 65,33

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 25

Allied aircraft
MiG-3 x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged



Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 10


Heiho
 
 
Day Air attack on Heiho , at 66,25

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
I-16 Type 24 x 23
IL-2 Shturmovik x 93

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
IL-2 Shturmovik: 25 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
140 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 66

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Day Air attack on Heiho , at 66,25
 
Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
I-16 Type 24 x 24
IL-2 Shturmovik x 79

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
IL-2 Shturmovik: 2 destroyed, 28 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
41 casualties reported

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 42


Khabarovsk
 
 
Day Air attack on Khabarovsk , at 69,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
A6M3 Zero x 18
Ki-46-II Dinah x 2

Allied aircraft
I-16 Type 24 x 4
MiG-3 x 6
LaGG-3 x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M3 Zero: 2 damaged
Ki-46-II Dinah: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
MiG-3: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
LaGG-3: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged

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Day Air attack on Khabarovsk , at 69,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14
A6M3 Zero x 25
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 38
Ki-51 Sonia x 69
Ki-21-II Sally x 19
Ki-46-II Dinah x 8

Allied aircraft
I-16 Type 24 x 6
MiG-3 x 4
LaGG-3 x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M3 Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-51 Sonia: 2 destroyed, 19 damaged
Ki-21-II Sally: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-46-II Dinah: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
I-16 Type 24: 7 destroyed
MiG-3: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
LaGG-3: 5 destroyed, 6 damaged


Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 46
 

Hailar
 
 
Day Air attack on Hailar , at 63,22

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
MiG-3 x 43
Pe-2 x 123
R-12 x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 3 destroyed
C5M Babs: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Pe-2: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
72 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 31


Mutankiang
 
 
Day Air attack on Mutankiang , at 64,31
 
Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
SB-2 x 65

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 3 destroyed
Ki-48-I Lily: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2: 8 damaged

Runway hits 6


Hmmm. Not really happy with results. The assault at Vladivostok was not good... allthough I will conquer the place if it was the last thing I do. Chuck propably has quite a lot of supplies piled up by looking at the defensive values. Next turn large LBA + Naval bombardments are ordered. This will be an Russian alamo sooner or later.

..and I forgot to turn on the CAP at Mutanchiang... embarrasing but thankfully I didn't pay for it.


Other NEWS
 
 
Those drastic changes didn't produce too many fighters last turn!!! [:(] ...Grrr... how on earth I'am going to feed Gumma??? It is a land base and really major aircraft production is there but it is dry on resources and oil. (Damn AI)
 
Also how does the Resource centers work? It seems to me that some of them do not produce automatically. Than again might be wrong! [:D]

[Historiker]

In my eyes, you have no choice but to conquer Burma! BUT, you'll need at least 5 to 6k AV for that, as the allies now have about 4-5k without any chinese units.
To do that, I think you'll have to be ready with russia... (you should have conquered Burma already in 01/42-02/42), as you can't afford to weaken your southern front.
By landings in Calcutta, you'll be able to cut all his troops off and finally force them to surrender. This must be the only way, attacks are planned, as you will have to face them later again! That's why I can't understand why you didn't start your main offensive against russia in the north as you will now only chase them to lake baikal (i.e.) where they'll be strong enough to hold out.

You should only bombard russia now, as you have to end this offensive there ASAP. You can't afford not to completly destroy the russians! You must eliminate the front there, now!

So put all your effort in this and take free units to cut them off in the north (but only if you have enought to hold this, too - at least 3k AV, I guess...

After that, you must conquer Burma, because otherwise the Allies will be in Malaya and Siam perhaps already in late 42!


Why haven't you conquered PM and Burma, yet? I never had any chance to defend PM - how did your enemy do it - or didn't you even try to invade it?


Don't forget:
The goal isn't to cnquer land, it is to destroy the enemy forces! What does it help you, if you conquer southern russia but are not able to conquer all because the retreating forces have dug in somewhere? If they achieve that, you'll not be able to end this offensive, so you'll have the allied in Siam in late 42 / early 43 and russia entering Manchuria in late 43...

[aztez]

Historiker:  Hmmm.. we do agree on many things but disagree on some things.
 
Basically I like the Calcutta invasion plan BUT I think it would cause me even more harm. I think Chuck has a lot of Chinese units + Some UK Brigades in Burma. Maybe anywhere between 2000-3000 Assault value. I would need anywhere between 3000-4000 assault value to gain anything here.
 
IF I'am to land at Calcutta than he doesn't need to pull his troops out of Burma... actually I think he would launch an large ground operation towards Bangkok. Since UK + Indian divisions would definately hit my landing zone. I would estimate that I would need 4000-5000 assault value to gain anything in India.
 
These operations would total 5000-8000 assault value in troops. That is a lot of men and I really don't have that kind of an army at my disposal. (Maybe ín Stock but not in CHS where the supply situation is much much worse than in Stock)
 
I could not go ahead towards Burma early on.. Chuck did put up an tough fight in Luzon, SRA and Java. (He is an very good player) ... I would have towards Mandalay early had this been a Stock game. Most definately.
 
Hmmm. I still think you are under estimating the Russian Southern forces. There is huge amount of Assault value at beginning in Norhern Russia. Meaning that had I gone through northern route with my Kwantung army (Keep in mind that this is just Kwantung army operation) he would have swung around in South with enough force and destroy my supply routes. Thus it would have collapsed the whole front in the North and threaten even the Chinese situation.
 
No. I didn't try to invade PM and I still think it is secondary base in overall. (It has served no value in other Allies game) ... and I can deal with once I get my economy and aircraft production working... this is my TOP priority now. I need fighters and with large quantitity. [:)]
 

[RUPD3658]

They key to defeating the Russian is to cut them off from Irkutsk. Without the auto suppy from there they can not support their troops in the filed.

[aztez]

RUPD3658: Thanks! That is very useful information. I have actually 2 small units marching towards Northern Russia. It seems that Chuck has abandoned a lot of his bases there. (Maybe I can cause some harm there)
 
 
Game date is 29th of July 1942
 
 
Russia
 
 
Vladivostok
 
 
Naval bombardment of Vladivostok, at 65,33 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
 
9 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
CL Sendai
CA Suzuya, Shell hits 1,  on fire
CA Mikuma
CA Mogami
 
 
Allied ground losses:
115 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
 
Runway hits 3
Port hits 4
 
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Naval bombardment of Vladivostok, at 65,33
 
Japanese Ships
CL Kinu
CL Isuzu
CL Kashii
CL Katori
BB Yamato
BB Yamashiro
BB Fuso
 
 
Allied ground losses:
1388 casualties reported
Guns lost 53
Vehicles lost 7
 
Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 33
Port hits 22
Port fuel hits 5
Port supply hits 5
 
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Naval bombardment of Vladivostok, at 65,33
 
Japanese Ships
CL Yubari
CL Tatsuta
CL Tenryu
CL Tama
CA Kumano
CA Chokai
 
 
Allied ground losses:
89 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 2
 
Runway hits 33
Port hits 6
Port fuel hits 2
 
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Day Air attack on Vladivostok , at 65,33
 
Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 62
Ki-21-II Sally x 24
Ki-48-I Lily x 22
Ki-49 Helen x 49
Ki-48-II Lily x 27
 
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 3 damaged
Ki-21-II Sally: 1 damaged
Ki-48-I Lily: 1 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 1 damaged
Ki-48-II Lily: 2 damaged
 
 
Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
 
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 98
 
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Day Air attack on Vladivostok , at 65,33
 
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 22
 
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
 
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 7
 
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Ground combat at Vladivostok
 
Japanese Bombardment attack
 
Attacking force 204340 troops, 1071 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3792
 
Defending force 113076 troops, 969 guns, 148 vehicles, Assault Value = 2041
 
 
 
Allied ground losses:
291 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
 
 
Iman
 
 
Day Air attack on Iman , at 67,31
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 16
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 20
Ki-51 Sonia x 62
Ki-21-II Sally x 14
 
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 5 destroyed, 20 damaged
Ki-21-II Sally: 1 damaged
 
 
Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
 
Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 44
 
 
Next turn delibarate assault is scheduled. Lets see the odds before launching any Shock assaults. I have also released additional IJA division from China. This unit has already started moving towards Voroshilov. Soon I will have 1000 more assault value stationed there.
 
IJA airforce will conduct an large strike next turn too. Intresting to see what kind of damage I can cause.
 
Also additional supply convoys are heading to Port Arthur. Bringing in some 100 000 supply points into Manchuko.
 
 
China
 
 
Ground combat at 48,36
 
Japanese Deliberate attack
 
Attacking force 89208 troops, 405 guns, 78 vehicles, Assault Value = 2502
 
Defending force 54558 troops, 269 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1596
 
Japanese max assault: 2027 - adjusted assault: 321
 
Allied max defense: 1664 - adjusted defense: 2152
 
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1
 
 
Japanese ground losses:
1944 casualties reported
Guns lost 38
Vehicles lost 1
 
Allied ground losses:
349 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
 

This assault was launched west of Changhsa. Not enough supplies it seems.
 
 
Burma
 

Day Air attack on Tavoy , at 28,37
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 10
 
Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 32
Wellington III x 48
Beaufort I x 29
B-25C Mitchell x 26
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed, 9 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 3 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 10 destroyed, 3 damaged
Wellington III: 4 destroyed, 7 damaged
Beaufort I: 4 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 3 damaged
 
Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
 
Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 50
 
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Day Air attack on Tavoy , at 28,37
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 7
 
Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 7
Wellington III x 13
Beaufort I x 3
B-25C Mitchell x 10
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 1 destroyed
Wellington III: 1 damaged
Beaufort I: 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
 
Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
 
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 3
 

This CAP was not planned. Basically these fighters leaked out Bangkok. Oh well at least they performed ok.
 
 
Other NEWS
 

IJN will conduct landings at Balikpapan and Medan. (There are some troops in shore already)
 
I think Chuck is up to no good in South Pacific. The airfield icon darkeness at Port Moresby.
 

[Historiker]

Did I say something differend than RUPD3658? [;)]
As soon as he realizes you've cut him off, your two small units won't be enough, so why don't you send more?

The landings in Calcutta can't be made before Russia is done, and than you'll have the units for such an operation. ATM, I would send every free unit to russia, that it get's crushed asap.
Good luck - and do you see? He looses fighters AND bombers if you let him come - and your shot down pilots have a good chance to survive!