my discipline) - but it was useful. I confirm all your translations - and I routinely translate the name into what
it means (Ho = River, Shan = Mountain, etc).
What I didn't know, but find useful, is the part about the seasonal flow of the tributary river. This is the area
that gives the "Yellow River" its name - all the mud flowing into it from the loess. It makes sense that tributaries
get pretty dry - but the picture is helpful.
You are absolutely correct about the quantity of oil. The first "refinery" in China, at this location by the company
named in my above post, first "capacity" is given at "15 pounds" - which sounds to me like a rough translation of
"one gallon" - per day. It was not until the 1930s it achieved economically significant production. Similarly the
oilfield itself achieved economic significance only in the 1920s, and only at the lowest end of the scale. [Today
is different - capacity was greatly expanded since 1981] It appears to me NONE of this oil (or distilate products )
were exported from the immediate area - but only fed the local industry. Still - in the 1930s - it permitted industrial
growth which would not have been possible without it.
In game terms, nothing has changed. At the moment, both towns are in the same hex, and for that reason, so
is the junction of the two rivers. So any riverine traffic on the Yellow River "reaches the hex" in the sense it reaches
the edge of the hex - and then must go overland in some seasons. If we were to move the location of Yenan - then
we would have a LOC problem - and perhaps that would be better economic modeling. Yenan in those years was in
many respects pretty isolated, and didn't have a lot of economic communications with other places. But in game terms,
being only on a secondary road, and the game not using rivers as LOC (except in RHS and then only if a player deliberately
uses small capacity river craft), it is effectively isolated anyway. In particular due to the long distances - secondary roads
don't seem to function well over long distances for moving resources, supply, fuel and oil. The art does create issues -
and we could move Yenan perhaps one hex down the Yan - but then would lose the road connection in the pwhexe file.
If we added one it would be "blind" - not visible to players in the art (though reveal codes would show it). It does not seem
worth the effort to do that - and we would then have to create a new location in the present Yenan hex to show the oilfield
and refinery - and the river junction.
Yanchang surely is the name of a county, but on my (official) map of PRC, it is shown as a town. Regardless, locations in
AE may sometimes be non-cities. We have some airfields for example. RHS has Balinta Pass and similar locations. It also
has Cotabato Mindinao - an inland district famous for food production and a good potential airfield location - distinct from Cotabato
Mindinao - a port city adjacent to it (as IRL). There also are cases in AE where the island name is used in preference to the
city or town - and some where it is hard to tell which - since the city and island have the same name (and even cases where they both
are named in repeitition). [RHS generally names the town with the island in brackets after it, but field length prevents this in some
instances] It does not matter if the map symbol on my modern (Chinese language) map is incorrectly a town or not - the name of
the county is fine.
ORIGINAL: fcharton
ORIGINAL: el cid again
It appears that there is a river feeding the Yellow River called the Yan Ho
Yes, that's how Yenan got its name (Yan in pinyin, is Yen in Wade Giles). The Yan river (Ho=he means river) passes through Yenan, too (no suprise, pretty much every major chinese city in the north is build upon a river, that's what the Yin and Yang in their names are all about : Yin, side to the dark, ie south bank, Yang, side to the sun, north bank)
ORIGINAL: el cid again
On this river - between Yenan and the big river - is a city called Yanchang.
No, on three counts.
- The river isn't big, or, rather, like most rivers on the loess plateau, it is only big when flooded. Here a pic of the Yan at Yan'an.
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/med ... ina-in-the
- Yenan is on the river, the place you refer to is just downstream
- Yanchang is not the name of a city but that of a county (xian in chinese), modern maps give the county capital as Qilicun Zhen. Zhen means township, Qilicun : the village seven leagues away. As the name implies, we are certainly not talking about a city. In 2002, I'm told the whole county (3000 sq km) had a population of 150 000, and this is after the chinese population tripled, and those northern regions were developped under Mao. In 1941, I doubt it had more than a few thousand peasants there.
ORIGINAL: el cid again
It also appears THIS is the actual location of the oilfleld, and refinery company (Shanxxi Yanchang) - which dates to 1906.
I could find a modern company, named Yanchang petroleum, and there certainly was some oil there. But the lack of roads, canals, railways and other transportation means (which would exist if some serious oil exploitation existed there) suggest that production was certainly very low.
And this doesn't make Yenan (or Yanchang) a port, which would allow for tankers to load oil and fuel and deliver it up or downstream on ports on the Yellow River. Once more, I would be very prudent about the navigability of the Yellow River.
Francois