Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

[Broncepulido]

I see in the EC-121D/Q Warning Star variants:

APS-45: AS/SS/2D, range 150, it should be 3D and very probaly not SS capable (I've it with máximum range 120, but I don't remember the range source, probably some books about the Constellation).

APS-95: AS/SS/3D, range 250, but should be only 2D.

If not, other APS-45 equipped variants (with APS-20) should not be capables of heigth-finding detections.

As hints, in my personal tables about the EC-121, compilated some time ago from many books:

PO-2W/WV-2/EC-121K (10/1954-1979): APS-20, APS-45, ESM. USNx142.

EC-121M (WV-2Q) (1960+): APS-20, APS-45, ESM. USNx12, SIGINT.

EC-121N (WV-3) (1955-1971): APS-20, APS-45, RWR. USN.

RC-121C (1953?+): APS-20, APS-45, ESM. USAFx10.

RC/EC-121D (1954+): APS-20, APS-45, ESM. USAFx74.

EC-121H (1960+): APS-95 (AS/SS,2D,250 nm), APS-103 (3D, 168 nm), ESM. USAFx42. Upgrade, SAGE capable.

EC-121Q Gold Digger (1962?+): APS-95 (AS/SS,2D,250 nm), APS-103 (3D, 168 nm), ESM. USAFx4, U-2 Dragonlady mission support, 966th Sq. at McCoy AFB.

EC-121R Batcat (1967-1971?): APS-42 (SS, 200? nm), ESM. USAFx30, 10 equipped with ECM.

EC-121S Coronet Solo: Pennsylvania ANGx5, for TV broadcasting. Also NC-121J.

EC-121T (1968?-1978): APS-95, not upper dome in many, ESM. USAFx22, employed for ELINT.

[Dobey455]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for all the updates, Devs - great work.
A small request - the RAN A4G Skyhawks (A/C 1639 in the CWDB) used "buddy" refueling packs fairly regularly, but these are not available in the load outs.
Is it possible to add buddy refuel stores for this A/C?

Thanks for considering.

[Coiler12]

The Yak-25RV, a heavily modified version specifically built to fly higher, still has the lower 12,200 meter ceiling of the ordinary fighter version.

Two sources put the ceiling of the Yak-25RV at 20,500 meters and 21,000 meters, respectfully.

[Mgellis]

I'm not sure if there were any important differences between these aircraft and the ones sold to other countries, but some of Yugoslavia's air force seems to be missing for the 1960s.

Mig-21F-13 Fishbed C
F/RF-84G jun53-jul74 -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_F-84_Thunderjet
F-86: SFR Yugoslav Air Force, Acquired 130 U.S.-made F-86Ds and operated them between 1961 and 1974. -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_F-86D_Sabre
F-86: Yugoslav Air Force, Acquired 121 Canadair CL-13s and F-86Es, operating them in several fighter aviation regiments between 1956 and 1971. -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-86_Sabre#Operators

http://www.vojska.net/eng/armed-forces/ ... tion/1960/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_A ... _1965-1985

Yugoslavia purchased its first batch of MiG-21s in 1962 from the Soviet Union. In the period from 1962 to the early 1980s Yugoslavia had purchased up to 216 MiG-21s in nine variants." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gu ... Yugoslavia

[Mgellis]

Not sure if this is a bug or a design issue with the ship in question. I cannot get the Andrea Doria (C 553) to launch her helicopters. When I checked, it says the helicopters are waiting for an elevator, but there is no elevator listed as part of the ship.

So...I don't know if there should be an elevator, or if the hanger should be changed--am I right that it is the type of hanger that tells the game whether or not an elevator, runway access path, etc. is needed?--or is it something else?

I'm trying to use the Andrea Doria as part of a scenario, so I hope someone can figure out if there is something wrong with the entry so it can be fixed or if I'm just doing something wrong with the aircraft. Thanks.

(Here is a copy of the file.)

[.Sirius]

Hi thanks Ill look into it

ORIGINAL: Mgellis

Not sure if this is a bug or a design issue with the ship in question. I cannot get the Andrea Doria (C 553) to launch her helicopters. When I checked, it says the helicopters are waiting for an elevator, but there is no elevator listed as part of the ship.

So...I don't know if there should be an elevator, or if the hanger should be changed--am I right that it is the type of hanger that tells the game whether or not an elevator, runway access path, etc. is needed?--or is it something else?

I'm trying to use the Andrea Doria as part of a scenario, so I hope someone can figure out if there is something wrong with the entry so it can be fixed or if I'm just doing something wrong with the aircraft. Thanks.

(Here is a copy of the file.)

[.Sirius]

Hi will update the countries orbat to reflect

ORIGINAL: Mgellis

I'm not sure if there were any important differences between these aircraft and the ones sold to other countries, but some of Yugoslavia's air force seems to be missing for the 1960s.

Mig-21F-13 Fishbed C
F/RF-84G jun53-jul74 -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_F-84_Thunderjet
F-86: SFR Yugoslav Air Force, Acquired 130 U.S.-made F-86Ds and operated them between 1961 and 1974. -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_F-86D_Sabre
F-86: Yugoslav Air Force, Acquired 121 Canadair CL-13s and F-86Es, operating them in several fighter aviation regiments between 1956 and 1971. -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-86_Sabre#Operators

http://www.vojska.net/eng/armed-forces/ ... tion/1960/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_A ... _1965-1985

Yugoslavia purchased its first batch of MiG-21s in 1962 from the Soviet Union. In the period from 1962 to the early 1980s Yugoslavia had purchased up to 216 MiG-21s in nine variants." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gu ... Yugoslavia

[Broncepulido]

Against as is usually reported, the Essex-class carriers converted in LPH, USS Boxer LPH-4, USS Valley Forge LPH-8 and USS Princeton LPH-5, get only a máximum speed of 25 knots (not 33 knots), as four of the eight boilers were removed, and the installed power fall from 150000 shp to 75000 shp, as stated in Norman Friedman's "US Aircraft Carriers, an Illustrated Design History", USNI 1983, page 369, or here:
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/11/1104.htm
(the navysource page reports 33 knots speed, BUT cites only 75000 shp, and that motivated me to research about the issue).

[Broncepulido]

Reading about the Red Storm scenario in project, I remembered this link I hope can help (I don't know if these radar sites are implemented in the database):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Un ... ted_States
The Iceland sites are designated H-xx, and in each individual entry of Iceland radar sites on Wikipedia are listed the radar types of each site.
Other link with links to similar stuff:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US ... r_Stations

[Broncepulido]

I see none Sea King variant is equipped with sonobuoys !!!!! (I was verifing platforms for a possible scenario)

[mikmykWS]

Various issues logged.

[.Sirius]

Noted and Fixed

ORIGINAL: Broncepulido

Against as is usually reported, the Essex-class carriers converted in LPH, USS Boxer LPH-4, USS Valley Forge LPH-8 and USS Princeton LPH-5, get only a máximum speed of 25 knots (not 33 knots), as four of the eight boilers were removed, and the installed power fall from 150000 shp to 75000 shp, as stated in Norman Friedman's "US Aircraft Carriers, an Illustrated Design History", USNI 1983, page 369, or here:
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/11/1104.htm
(the navysource page reports 33 knots speed, BUT cites only 75000 shp, and that motivated me to research about the issue).

[Mgellis]

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[Mgellis]

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[Mgellis]

Ooops! Put those last two in the wrong forum. Sorry! I will re-post them.

[deepdive]

RF-8G Crusaders has guns, as far as i know, it should not. (running latest public DB)

Bjørn

[.Sirius]

OOps will update thanks

ORIGINAL: deepdive

RF-8G Crusaders has guns, as far as i know, it should not. (running latest public DB)

Bjørn

[Mgellis]

I posted these in another thread, but another player's request for WWII scenarios made me think I should repost them here...

Japanese aircraft carrier Hōshō
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_a ... 8Dsh%C5%8D

Ise-class battleship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ise-class_battleship

Shimushu-class escort ship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimushu-class_escort_ship

Etorofu-class escort ship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etorofu-class_escort_ship

Mikura-class escort ship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikura-class_escort_ship

Ukuru-class escort ship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukuru-class_escort_ship

Type C escort ship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_Type_class_escort_ship

Type D escort ship <-- apparently, some of these were in commission as late as 1987
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_D_escort_ship

All of these survived World War II and could have appeared in early Cold War scenarios, or "The War Goes On: 1946" alternate history scenarios, or even just to give Command a limited ability to recreate actual World War II scenarios (plenty of American and British ships from the era are already in the database...one could have a duel between an American sub and some Japanese escorts in coastal waters in 1945, etc.)

Anyway, it's just a thought...

[.Sirius]

Hi noted

ORIGINAL: Mgellis

I posted these in another thread, but another player's request for WWII scenarios made me think I should repost them here...

Japanese aircraft carrier Hôshô
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_a ... 8Dsh%C5%8D

Ise-class battleship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ise-class_battleship

Shimushu-class escort ship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimushu-class_escort_ship

Etorofu-class escort ship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etorofu-class_escort_ship

Mikura-class escort ship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikura-class_escort_ship

Ukuru-class escort ship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukuru-class_escort_ship

Type C escort ship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_Type_class_escort_ship

Type D escort ship <-- apparently, some of these were in commission as late as 1987
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_D_escort_ship

All of these survived World War II and could have appeared in early Cold War scenarios, or "The War Goes On: 1946" alternate history scenarios, or even just to give Command a limited ability to recreate actual World War II scenarios (plenty of American and British ships from the era are already in the database...one could have a duel between an American sub and some Japanese escorts in coastal waters in 1945, etc.)

Anyway, it's just a thought...

[ventris]

All EF-4C Phantoms:
-change IFR (probe) to IFR(boom)

RF-4EJ:
-same issues as DB3000 (see the DB3000 thread for details)

All F-4EJ:
-change first year of service from 1972 to 1973
-remove IFR (see DB3000 thread for details)