Battle for New Jersey (like who would want to do that)

[Gen.Hoepner]

yes guys, we need maps!!

[RUPD3658]

Pretty simple. I hold everything but Karachi, Diamond Harbor, Diampur, Calcutta, and the city south of Dacca. In a week or so it will be all but Karachi and Calcutta.

The raiding force that came out of Karachi is finding it's way back. I had hoped to cut it off.

[KDonovan]

DD Kasumi, Mine hits 1, on fire (I hope this was not one of my mines)

don't worry..it was one of my mines

Could either one of you post a India snap shot around Karachi so I have a better reference

hard to post a snap shot as this is a joint AAR, so screen shots will give away vital information

[RUPD3658]

Did you check the arrival date of the 7th BG on the AC reinforcements screen? Rule book (for what it is worth) says 270 days for AC lost at sea.

[KDonovan]

Did you check the arrival date of the 7th BG on the AC reinforcements screen? Rule book (for what it is worth) says 270 days for AC lost at sea.

yep...10 days it will be here. Maybe this is a bug....so far every airgroup sunk at sea has come back in 90 days

[ny59giants]

Guys,
Any house rule on the Japs being able to capture Karachi?
Don't want a repeat of Nemo in his Lunacy game. [:D][:D]

[RUPD3658]

None as yet. If I do manage to take it I will give it back so as not to cut off the reinforcements.

We have agreed that warships and AC will be given free passage to leave. Ships must go to SF and repaired down to 0 before being used to simulate sailing west via the canal.

[KDonovan]

edit

[RUPD3658]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/13/42

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TF 1133 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99) (I would have hit them)

Allied Ships
DD Ward
DD Chew
DD Alden

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TF 1135 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99) (Again no hits)[:@]

Allied Ships
APD Gregory
APD Stringham
APD Little

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Day Air attack on Asansol , at 31,21


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 85


No Allied losses

Heavy Industry hits 4 (Damaging a future Dell production center)

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Ground combat at Calcutta

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 180617 troops, 1809 guns, 27 vehicles, Assault Value = 3720

Defending force 75524 troops, 456 guns, 468 vehicles, Assault Value = 866



Allied ground losses:
252 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12931 troops, 450 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 11518

Defending force 352247 troops, 86 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10778



Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Diamond Harbor

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 15861 troops, 88 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 318

Defending force 2404 troops, 38 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese max assault: 310 - adjusted assault: 203

Allied max defense: 1 - adjusted defense: 9

Japanese assault odds: 22 to 1 (fort level 5)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Diamond Harbor base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
146 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Allied ground losses:
2313 casualties reported
Guns lost 15
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Dimapur

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 18975 troops, 158 guns, 501 vehicles, Assault Value = 623

Defending force 20391 troops, 153 guns, 131 vehicles, Assault Value = 494


Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Calcutta

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 49784 troops, 410 guns, 446 vehicles, Assault Value = 860

Defending force 197785 troops, 1811 guns, 282 vehicles, Assault Value = 3720


Japanese ground losses:
211 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/14/42


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TF 1134 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

Allied Ships
DMS Elliot
DMS Dorsey
DMS Chandler
DMS Lamberton
DMS Boggs
DMS Zane

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ASW attack at 83,86

Japanese Ships
DD Mikazuki
DD Yuzuki
DD Mochizuki
DD Yamakaze
ML Hoko
ML Ishizaki

Allied Ships
SS S-31, hits 3

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TF 1134 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

Allied Ships
DMS Elliot
DMS Dorsey
DMS Chandler
DMS Lamberton
DMS Boggs
DMS Zane

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Day Air attack on Asansol , at 31,21


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 84


No Allied losses

Heavy Industry hits 25
(This time a tech support call center was taken out. England is not going to be popular in India after the war)



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Ground combat at Calcutta

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 187334 troops, 1898 guns, 33 vehicles, Assault Value = 4051

Defending force 75912 troops, 469 guns, 472 vehicles, Assault Value = 880



Allied ground losses:
140 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12919 troops, 450 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 11508

Defending force 351198 troops, 86 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10779



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Ground combat at Chandpur

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 20876 troops, 213 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 480

Defending force 3074 troops, 38 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 2

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 5

Japanese max assault: 514 - adjusted assault: 191

Allied max defense: 1 - adjusted defense: 11

Japanese assault odds: 17 to 1 (fort level 5)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Chandpur base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
150 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
3073 casualties reported
Guns lost 16
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Dimapur

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 19045 troops, 157 guns, 504 vehicles, Assault Value = 624

Defending force 47921 troops, 415 guns, 131 vehicles, Assault Value = 990


Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Calcutta

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 49966 troops, 419 guns, 449 vehicles, Assault Value = 876

Defending force 214419 troops, 1941 guns, 426 vehicles, Assault Value = 4051


Japanese ground losses:
143 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Malir

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 18181 troops, 170 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 448

Defending force 857 troops, 0 guns, 55 vehicles, Assault Value = 31

Allied max assault: 486 - adjusted assault: 91

Japanese max defense: 25 - adjusted defense: 22

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Malir base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
86 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 6

Allied ground losses:
96 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

[KDonovan]

Proposed House Rules for Karachi (when its retaken by Allies)

LCU Reinforcements
1) when Karachi is retaken by the allies, any Indian reinforcements will not be able to be used in any offensive operations to retake India. This simulates the defeat of the Indian people.
- Exception to this rule will be that one Indian Brigade be allowed to be used offensively. This is to simulate “free Indian” troops…kinda like the “free French” in WWII. Reinforcements for this “free” Indian Brigade will be turned off, since there will be no Indian country to receive reinforcements from.

2) American, Australian, British, Canadian troops can attempt to retake parts of India from Karachi. Prevents the Japanese from leaving a token force to garrison India.

3) Chinese troops that arrive to Karachi cannot part take in any offensive to take back India. SEAC Chinese troops destroyed in China, inadvertenly arrive at Karachi, which makes no sense.

4) The free Indian Brigade can receive reinforcements if a 1 major city (besides Karachi) is liberated. The following are the only major cities that apply….Bombay, New Delhi, Madras, Calcutta.

5) If all those above major cities are liberated, then any Indian Reinforcements that arrive can now be used for offensive operations against the Japanese. Those Indian reinforcements that arrived before the complete liberation of India can never be used.

Ship Reinforcements
1) Any warships will be given free passage along the western map edge, around Australia, to S.F. Once there it must be repaired to system 0 to simulate traveling around the Suez canal. These ships however can be withdrawn if Churchill so desires.

Aircraft Reinforcements
1) all British airgroups will be disbanded since v1.801 allows this. This will simulate Britain’s need to keep airgroups in the Middle East to protect the oil fields from Japanese raids. The airgroups will be reformed every 90 days. Only until all Japanese troops are pushed back east of Bombay-New Delhi line can the british airgroups be used against Japanese held bases in India. If v1.802 doesn’t allow airgroups to be disbanded…then something will have to be thought of.

2) American airgroups will be allowed free passage around western map edge, around Australia…to S.F. Once there they can be used for combat against the Japanese and moved to the front

[Onime No Kyo]

Sounds like the next thing you guys need to do is simulate the German/Japanese link-up in Iran. [X(][:D]

[RUPD3658]

ORIGINAL: KDonovan

Proposed House Rules for Karachi (when its retaken by Allies)

LCU Reinforcements
1) when Karachi is retaken by the allies, any Indian reinforcements will not be able to be used in any offensive operations to retake India. This simulates the defeat of the Indian people.
- Exception to this rule will be that one Indian Brigade be allowed to be used offensively. This is to simulate “free Indian” troops…kinda like the “free French” in WWII. Reinforcements for this “free” Indian Brigade will be turned off, since there will be no Indian country to receive reinforcements from.

No need to turn off reinforcements for the Fee Brigade. There will always be expatriot volunteers

2) American, Australian, British, Canadian troops can attempt to retake parts of India from Karachi. Prevents the Japanese from leaving a token force to garrison India.

I plan on leaving about 5K AV as a garrison so this is fine.

3) Chinese troops that arrive to Karachi cannot part take in any offensive to take back India. SEAC Chinese troops destroyed in China, inadvertenly arrive at Karachi, which makes no sense.

Agreed

4) The free Indian Brigade can receive reinforcements if a 1 major city (besides Karachi) is liberated. The following are the only major cities that apply….Bombay, New Delhi, Madras, Calcutta.

As above, no need.

5) If all those above major cities are liberated, then any Indian Reinforcements that arrive can now be used for offensive operations against the Japanese. Those Indian reinforcements that arrived before the complete liberation of India can never be used.

OK

Ship Reinforcements
1) Any warships will be given free passage along the western map edge, around Australia, to S.F. Once there it must be repaired to system 0 to simulate traveling around the Suez canal. These ships however can be withdrawn if Churchill so desires.

Aircraft Reinforcements
1) all British airgroups will be disbanded since v1.801 allows this. This will simulate Britain’s need to keep airgroups in the Middle East to protect the oil fields from Japanese raids. The airgroups will be reformed every 90 days. Only until all Japanese troops are pushed back east of Bombay-New Delhi line can the british airgroups be used against Japanese held bases in India. If v1.802 doesn’t allow airgroups to be disbanded…then something will have to be thought of.

2) American airgroups will be allowed free passage around western map edge, around Australia…to S.F. Once there they can be used for combat against the Japanese and moved to the front

OK

All I would add is that due to the free passage rules we declare the IO from North of Batavia to be a neutral zone. Allies can't send ships to India through here and Japan will not station subs/warships in the area and will stand down air coverage of the area.

If the Allies wish to attempt to retake India by sea I would ask for a 30 day notice prior to any ships enetering this area so the AC can be reactivated and repositioned.

Are the US troops going to come by sea or the teleport rule? Either is fine but I might ask for a cap on the number of teleporting units.

[RUPD3658]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/15/42

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Day Air attack on Asansol , at 31,21


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 76


No Allied losses

Heavy Industry hits 25

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Day Air attack on 14th Tank Regiment, at 31,21


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 8


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

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Ground combat at Calcutta

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 206683 troops, 2177 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 4403

Defending force 76281 troops, 482 guns, 473 vehicles, Assault Value = 892



Allied ground losses:
88 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12903 troops, 450 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 11556

Defending force 350436 troops, 80 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10890



Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/16/42


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Day Air attack on Asansol , at 31,21


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 50


No Allied losses

Heavy Industry hits 11

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Ground combat at Calcutta

(Dum@ass commander decided to take a short cut from Diamond Harbor and crossed the river)
[:@]
Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 223978 troops, 2289 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 4855

Defending force 76705 troops, 487 guns, 473 vehicles, Assault Value = 904

Japanese max assault: 374 - adjusted assault: 86

Allied max defense: 954 - adjusted defense: 8741

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 9)


Japanese ground losses:
3438 casualties reported
Guns lost 94
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
154 casualties reported
Guns lost 4


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12932 troops, 451 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 11884

Defending force 349589 troops, 78 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10873



Allied ground losses:
65 casualties reported

[Onime No Kyo]

In my AI game where I invaded India I discovered that whatever routines control movement cant cope with Indian terrain. I spent most of that game moving LCUs in India one hex at a time. [:@] 
 
And then my comp crached and I had to reinstall......

[KDonovan]

In my AI game where I invaded India I discovered that whatever routines control movement cant cope with Indian terrain. I spent most of that game moving LCUs in India one hex at a time.

i'm starting to realize this...i've had several units jump off rail lines into the country side for no explicable reason[&:]

[RUPD3658]

Ever seen the Indian rail system? It may be safer walking.[:D]

If I have learned anything from watching countless hour of Thomas the Tank Engine with my son it is to never take a train operated by the English. They crash every episode![:-][:'(]

[Onime No Kyo]

One word, since youre from Jersey and all. "Acela". [:D]

[KDonovan]

All I would add is that due to the free passage rules we declare the IO from North of Batavia to be a neutral zone. Allies can't send ships to India through here and Japan will not station subs/warships in the area and will stand down air coverage of the area.

If the Allies wish to attempt to retake India by sea I would ask for a 30 day notice prior to any ships enetering this area so the AC can be reactivated and repositioned.

sounds good to me

Are the US troops going to come by sea or the teleport rule? Either is fine but I might ask for a cap on the number of teleporting units.

i will not be teleporting any units from the West Coast to Karachi, via command change to SEAC. If i intend to use troops from Oz, SOPAC, SWPAC, CENPAC, NOPAC they will come by way of invasion from the sea in which case you will get a 30 day warning.

[KDonovan]

One word, since youre from Jersey and all. "Acela".

[&:][&:]

[RUPD3658]

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

One word, since youre from Jersey and all. "Acela". [:D]

Fast train line. Derails every know and then.

More of a North Jersey thing.