Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Lowpe (J)
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RE: Canada and India invaded!
If you don't train more than one skill you will never get overall experience and defense out of the mid 50s.
When you train a single skill to 70, your overall experience is not gonna get out of the 50s.
If the only skill you train is not LOW then you're never gonna get defense out of the mid 50s.
Train fighter pilots in Air (offense) to 70. This gets OA XP to mid 50s. Switch to training strafing and both OA XP and Defense will start gaining again and climb out of the mid 50s.
The same is true for bomber pilots. After training main skill to 70, switch to another skill to spur gains in OA XP again.
When you train a single skill to 70, your overall experience is not gonna get out of the 50s.
If the only skill you train is not LOW then you're never gonna get defense out of the mid 50s.
Train fighter pilots in Air (offense) to 70. This gets OA XP to mid 50s. Switch to training strafing and both OA XP and Defense will start gaining again and climb out of the mid 50s.
The same is true for bomber pilots. After training main skill to 70, switch to another skill to spur gains in OA XP again.
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I multitrain fighter pilots too. First up to 70 air and them put them on strafe until EXP reaches 50. Then backwater CAP until deemed fit for combat duty. Usually past mid 43 all my fighter pilots in combat are 70EXP 70 Air and 70 DEF.
Though I don´t find it useful to dual train bomber pilots. I simply take too much time. I train them up to 70 ground and dump them into the pools regardless of EXP. Dual training them would take way too much time. They will have to catch up with training in their combat squadrons or learn on the job. At least for now. Talking about pilots I intend to use for ground bombing here obviously.
Pilots trained for NavB or LowN are also trained in NavS. CV pilots in NavS and ASW in addition to their primary skill. Patrol pilots in NavS and ASW...
Though I don´t find it useful to dual train bomber pilots. I simply take too much time. I train them up to 70 ground and dump them into the pools regardless of EXP. Dual training them would take way too much time. They will have to catch up with training in their combat squadrons or learn on the job. At least for now. Talking about pilots I intend to use for ground bombing here obviously.
Pilots trained for NavB or LowN are also trained in NavS. CV pilots in NavS and ASW in addition to their primary skill. Patrol pilots in NavS and ASW...

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RE: Canada and India invaded!
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Nothing too exiting for the Allies coming up. But some nice additions to the Navy. BB Indiana shows up together with CA Wichita ,CL Columbia and CL Cleveland. The first Clevelands will certainly send a shiver down Jeffs spine. 4 Clevelands and 8 Fletchers....
Air wise its not an exciting month. Recon version of the Wildkitten and the Beufighter VIc.
On the ground there isn´t much exciting coming in either. More engineers. And more engineers. And more engineers... [:D]
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Nothing too exiting for the Allies coming up. But some nice additions to the Navy. BB Indiana shows up together with CA Wichita ,CL Columbia and CL Cleveland. The first Clevelands will certainly send a shiver down Jeffs spine. 4 Clevelands and 8 Fletchers....

Air wise its not an exciting month. Recon version of the Wildkitten and the Beufighter VIc.
On the ground there isn´t much exciting coming in either. More engineers. And more engineers. And more engineers... [:D]

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I decided on a plan for India and prepped all units. With so much of the Japanese forces going for NORPAC/CENTPAC I can certainly afford to be aggressive here. A bombardment of Chittagong shows that the Japanese are far weaker then anticipated.
I can probably blast right through this pretty fast once suppression start in earnest. But its a long walk into Burma and ships are faster! [:)] If things go to plan we are looking at a major Amphib OP in spring of 43 here.
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I decided on a plan for India and prepped all units. With so much of the Japanese forces going for NORPAC/CENTPAC I can certainly afford to be aggressive here. A bombardment of Chittagong shows that the Japanese are far weaker then anticipated.
Ground combat at Chittagong (55,41)
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 83428 troops, 1349 guns, 963 vehicles, Assault Value = 2704
Defending force 81963 troops, 901 guns, 690 vehicles, Assault Value = 2149
Japanese ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Allied ground losses:
171 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 15 (2 destroyed, 13 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Assaulting units:
7th Australian Division
70th British Division
6th Australian Division
255th Armoured Brigade
1st Marine Division
18th British Division
26th Indian Division
21st Light AA Regiment
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
4th Field Artillery Battalion
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
IV Indian Corps
6th Heavy AA Regiment
25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
48th Light AA Regiment
2/9th Field Regiment
XXXIII Indian Corps
2/11th Field Regiment
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
95th Heavy AA Regiment
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment
Defending units:
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
5th Division
2nd Tank Regiment
56th Division
8th Tank Regiment
4th Guards/A Division
38th Division
4th Guards/B Division
14th Tank Regiment
18th/B Division
20th Ind Engineer Regiment
4th Guards/C Division
18th/C Division
54th Const Co
16th JNAF AF Unit
20th AA Regiment
3rd Mortar Battalion
53rd Const Co
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
17th Army
16th AA Regiment
5th Mortar Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
21st Air Defense AA Regiment
21st Ind.AA Gun Co
36th Field AA Battalion
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Bn /5
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
49th JNAF AF Unit
25th Air Flotilla
Southern Fleet
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
29th JNAF AF Unit
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Mortar Battalion
302nd Ship Eng Coy
91st JAAF AF Bn
15th JAAF Base Force
2nd Shipping
1st RF Gun Bn /1
I can probably blast right through this pretty fast once suppression start in earnest. But its a long walk into Burma and ships are faster! [:)] If things go to plan we are looking at a major Amphib OP in spring of 43 here.

RE: Canada and India invaded!
I do exacty what Jocke suggests here as well.
A lot depends on the starting quality of your pilots. Often, for training, the worse they are the quicker and more flexible the training can be. I want to start with 10-30exp pilot trainees. By the time they get to 70 skill they're only 30-40exp. Then the several weeks on 100ft sweep for defense and they get to 70 defense about the time they get to 50 exp. If they are still below 50exp then they get assigned to rear area CAP.
For real multi-skill training I like the very poor beginners. So for my IJN TB pilots I'd train to 70 TT, to 70 naval bombing, to 60 search and eventually to 70 ASW. Some of that happens when they're already in an active unit, but LBA. When nothing is happening in their theatre they keep training. Or when CVs traverse long distances, some of them are training.
For LBA I'd like to train either low naval or naval bombing, but this also happens while there is no action. I also throw them in at 42-48exp after ground bombing training and they have to earn the rest on duty.
ORIGINAL: HansBolter
If you don't train more than one skill you will never get overall experience and defense out of the mid 50s.
When you train a single skill to 70, your overall experience is not gonna get out of the 50s.
If the only skill you train is not LOW then you're never gonna get defense out of the mid 50s.
Train fighter pilots in Air (offense) to 70. This gets OA XP to mid 50s. Switch to training strafing and both OA XP and Defense will start gaining again and climb out of the mid 50s.
The same is true for bomber pilots. After training main skill to 70, switch to another skill to spur gains in OA XP again.
A lot depends on the starting quality of your pilots. Often, for training, the worse they are the quicker and more flexible the training can be. I want to start with 10-30exp pilot trainees. By the time they get to 70 skill they're only 30-40exp. Then the several weeks on 100ft sweep for defense and they get to 70 defense about the time they get to 50 exp. If they are still below 50exp then they get assigned to rear area CAP.
For real multi-skill training I like the very poor beginners. So for my IJN TB pilots I'd train to 70 TT, to 70 naval bombing, to 60 search and eventually to 70 ASW. Some of that happens when they're already in an active unit, but LBA. When nothing is happening in their theatre they keep training. Or when CVs traverse long distances, some of them are training.
For LBA I'd like to train either low naval or naval bombing, but this also happens while there is no action. I also throw them in at 42-48exp after ground bombing training and they have to earn the rest on duty.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill
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That will be it for the weekend guys. Leaving in a couple of hours for Dusseldorf! Going to see the Leverkusen vs. Frankfurt game on Saturday. Back home on Sunday but might not be in condition to do any turns! [:D]

PS. Keep me off page 2 you lazy sods! [:D]

PS. Keep me off page 2 you lazy sods! [:D]

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RE: Canada and India invaded!
4 Clevelands and 8 Fletchers....
My favorite SC TF [8D]
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RE: Canada and India invaded!
I don't think it will be that easy Jocke. He has a good mix of AA regiments, anti-tank, heavy and medium arty, and some experienced troops. Don't like the gun losses you suffered on the bombardment - his heavy arty is good at counterbattery fire. I think it will be a long grind unless he is low on supply.
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I don't think it will be that easy Jocke. He has a good mix of AA regiments, anti-tank, heavy and medium arty, and some experienced troops. Don't like the gun losses you suffered on the bombardment - his heavy arty is good at counterbattery fire. I think it will be a long grind unless he is low on supply.
He will have a really hard time to keep the supply flowing there unless he can brake the naval blockade. Plan is to soften them up using naval bombardments and high altitude bombings to burn off the supply first. [:)]

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Symon suggested to me that an Allied player use some of the American Marine CD units along the coast in India/Burma in response to me asking where is the Allied heavy artillery. If you have any in theater, send them to Chittagong.
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[font="Verdana"]5th October 1942[/font]
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Back from Dusseldorf. Man...any place in the world where beer is cheaper then water is my kind of place. Getting too old for 3 days of party though. Getting up this morning was really tough. At least we saw most of the bars, the hospital and a couple of us had to spend the night in jail. Epic trip! [:D]
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Dispatched Achilles and Leander to deal with the raiders around Hiva Oa. Hope it will be enough. They will join up with two AOs from Auckland and should arrive in 2-3 weeks.
Feeling kind of naked down here with most of the Navy refitting. The CLs and DDs are soon finished though.
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India
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Not much to report. Tomorrow I should know how much opposition is left in Eastern India. A test bombardment is ordered on Jeffs main stack.
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NORPAC
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Nothing here.
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Back from Dusseldorf. Man...any place in the world where beer is cheaper then water is my kind of place. Getting too old for 3 days of party though. Getting up this morning was really tough. At least we saw most of the bars, the hospital and a couple of us had to spend the night in jail. Epic trip! [:D]
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Dispatched Achilles and Leander to deal with the raiders around Hiva Oa. Hope it will be enough. They will join up with two AOs from Auckland and should arrive in 2-3 weeks.
Feeling kind of naked down here with most of the Navy refitting. The CLs and DDs are soon finished though.
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India
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Not much to report. Tomorrow I should know how much opposition is left in Eastern India. A test bombardment is ordered on Jeffs main stack.
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NORPAC
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Nothing here.

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Symon suggested to me that an Allied player use some of the American Marine CD units along the coast in India/Burma in response to me asking where is the Allied heavy artillery. If you have any in theater, send them to Chittagong.
Sadly...I lost most of them in the initial attack into CENTPAC. They are back in action but without their guns. Besides all of them are in SOPAC.

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[font="Verdana"]6th October 1942[/font]
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More SIGINT. [X(]
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NORPAC
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Yet another ID moving for NORPAC/WC.
Have to double check but think this is the 8th(!) confirmed ID moving into the area. I´ll go through everything in the coming weekend and look through the Japanese OOB and the SIGINT I have.
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Japan
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A Japanese xAK sunk outside Formosa. My subs are starting to get some sinkings going. I think this was the 3rd ship this week. [:)]
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SOPAC
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Nothing.
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India
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Jeff went all in and attacked a US tank battalion from the air at Comilla. They took a beating losing all their support and 12 Stuarts. The British will provide some LRCAP tomorrow. Expecting heavy sweeps but I´ll see how the Brits perform before doing something big here.

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More SIGINT. [X(]
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NORPAC
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Yet another ID moving for NORPAC/WC.
9/2nd Division is loaded on xAK Meiten Maru moving to Pearl Harbor.
Have to double check but think this is the 8th(!) confirmed ID moving into the area. I´ll go through everything in the coming weekend and look through the Japanese OOB and the SIGINT I have.
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Japan
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A Japanese xAK sunk outside Formosa. My subs are starting to get some sinkings going. I think this was the 3rd ship this week. [:)]
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SOPAC
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Nothing.
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India
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Jeff went all in and attacked a US tank battalion from the air at Comilla. They took a beating losing all their support and 12 Stuarts. The British will provide some LRCAP tomorrow. Expecting heavy sweeps but I´ll see how the Brits perform before doing something big here.

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RE: Canada and India invaded!
ORIGINAL: JocMeister
Back from Dusseldorf. Man...any place in the world where beer is cheaper then water is my kind of place. Getting too old for 3 days of party though. Getting up this morning was really tough. At least we saw most of the bars, the hospital and a couple of us had to spend the night in jail. Epic trip! [:D]
Uh, wow! Clarification needed! [:D]
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It sure looks like he is preparing to attack somewhere beyond Hawaii. IIRC he has all the Aleutians, and the islands south of Hawaii don't seem worthwhile. That would leave West coast, but that is a pretty long coast. Should be interesting .... (kind of like the Chinese curse "May you live in interesting times"!).
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Uh, wow! Clarification needed! [:D]
Haha, some of us got a bit unruly the first night...I speak a little German though so I avoided jail but three of the guys had to spend the night in Jail to "cool down". One guy had to get some stitches to his nose and another broke his hand.
It was a good laugh though! [:)]

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It sure looks like he is preparing to attack somewhere beyond Hawaii. IIRC he has all the Aleutians, and the islands south of Hawaii don't seem worthwhile. That would leave West coast, but that is a pretty long coast. Should be interesting .... (kind of like the Chinese curse "May you live in interesting times"!).
Yeah, I have been convinced the troop movements has been a defensive move. But with the amount of troops he is moving into the area... and its not sure I picked them all up either.
An attack on the WC still sounds impossible though. But I´ll go through it once more and look at exactly what I have.

RE: Canada and India invaded!
ORIGINAL: JocMeister
ORIGINAL: obvert
Uh, wow! Clarification needed! [:D]
Haha, some of us got a bit unruly the first night...I speak a little German though so I avoided jail but three of the guys had to spend the night in Jail to "cool down". One guy had to get some stitches to his nose and another broke his hand.
It was a good laugh though! [:)]
Remind me not to go out with Swedes on holiday! [:D]
Glad it was fun though. German beer is very good!!
In Bonn they won't even serve Altbier as it's an import from Dusseldorf. It's all Kolch.
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Lol. I thought I had some good weekends in my past Jocke but nothing trumps that [:D]
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I spent two years in Germany and I really liked the altbier!
Check to see if it is just fragments going to/preparing for the West Coast. They could just be small fragments and not substantial parts of the units.
If you can take and hold Chittagong, he will have difficulties supplying his units in India. Good Luck!
Have you rescued any Chinese units that can be bought out?
Check to see if it is just fragments going to/preparing for the West Coast. They could just be small fragments and not substantial parts of the units.
If you can take and hold Chittagong, he will have difficulties supplying his units in India. Good Luck!
Have you rescued any Chinese units that can be bought out?
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