E1-Milan.
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GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Moderator: Shannon V. OKeets
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 25. Sep/Oct 1943. Allied #5. MTO & Balkans.
Reorg.
End of Impulse.
Reorg.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 25. Sep/Oct 1943. The Eastern Front.
Combat Logs (Post Ground Strike).
Siberian Fronts.
End of Impulse (Siberian & Volgograd Fronts).
Combat Logs (Post Ground Strike).
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 25. Sep/Oct 1943. The Eastern Front.
Southern Fronts.
End of Impulse.
Southern Fronts.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 25. Sep/Oct 1943. Axis #6.
Imperial Japanese HQ. War Directives Review.
(1) A much needed review of Japanese War Directives was conducted in order to properly task Imperial Japanese land, air and sea forces.
(2) 2 new directives were issued and 1 directive was closed as failed.
Imperial Japanese HQ. War Directives Review.
(1) A much needed review of Japanese War Directives was conducted in order to properly task Imperial Japanese land, air and sea forces.
(2) 2 new directives were issued and 1 directive was closed as failed.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 25. Sep/Oct 1943. Axis #6.
OKH. War Directives Review.
(1) OKH conducted a much needed review of Germany's war directives.
(2) 3 new directives were written, 3 closed as failed and 1 closed as OBE.
OKH. War Directives Review.
(1) OKH conducted a much needed review of Germany's war directives.
(2) 3 new directives were written, 3 closed as failed and 1 closed as OBE.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 25. Sep/Oct 1943. Axis #6.
Actions. Axis Impulse #181.
(1) Both Germany & Japan take a land action.
(2) 0% chance turn ends.
Actions. Axis Impulse #181.
(1) Both Germany & Japan take a land action.
(2) 0% chance turn ends.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 25. Sep/Oct 1943. Axis #6. Asian Theater. China.
(1) Even though Japan took a land action, they effectively passed.
(2) Japan moved no units and executed no missions.
(3) No change in China from the end of the last allied impulse.
(1) Even though Japan took a land action, they effectively passed.
(2) Japan moved no units and executed no missions.
(3) No change in China from the end of the last allied impulse.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 25. Sep/Oct 1943. Axis #6. Italy & Balkans.
(1) Model railed from the Eastern Front to Milan and restored supply to German units in Italy west of Venice.
(2) II mot corps railed from Germany to Belgrade.
(3) JagdPanther AT div railed from Germany to Milan.
(4) Germany able to move, with a couple of units flipped, to established a continuous FLOT from Genoa, Italy (northwest flank) to Skopje, Yugoslavia (southeast flank).
End of Impulse.
(1) Model railed from the Eastern Front to Milan and restored supply to German units in Italy west of Venice.
(2) II mot corps railed from Germany to Belgrade.
(3) JagdPanther AT div railed from Germany to Milan.
(4) Germany able to move, with a couple of units flipped, to established a continuous FLOT from Genoa, Italy (northwest flank) to Skopje, Yugoslavia (southeast flank).
End of Impulse.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 25. Sep/Oct 1943. Axis #6. The Eastern Front.
Siberian Army Groups.
(1) Redeployment of both Army Groups begins with all units (expect for the isolated DAK panzer corps) moving west in an orderly fashion.
(2) 3 of 4 air mission allocated to rebase of the 2 support bomber and 1 fighter wing.
End of Impulse.
Siberian Army Groups.
(1) Redeployment of both Army Groups begins with all units (expect for the isolated DAK panzer corps) moving west in an orderly fashion.
(2) 3 of 4 air mission allocated to rebase of the 2 support bomber and 1 fighter wing.
End of Impulse.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 25. Sep/Oct 1943. Axis #6. The Eastern Front.
Southern Army Groups.
Combat Logs.
Air Transport.
Tiflis.
Ground Support.
Land Combat.
Southern Army Groups.
Combat Logs.
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Ground Support.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 25. Sep/Oct 1943. Axis #6. The Eastern Front.
Southern Army Groups.
Caucasus Mtn 61,69. Land Combat.
End of Impulse.
Southern Army Groups.
Caucasus Mtn 61,69. Land Combat.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 25. Sep/Oct 1943. Allied #7.
Weather.
D10(+0) = 4 -> fine weather across the globe continues.
Western Allied Impulse Objectives.
(1) Eliminated von Bock HQ-I & AA div while "minimizing" flips and if successful in both reduce chance of partisans in Italy from around 14% to 0%.
(2) However; protect flipped aircraft & saved BPs "just in case".
(3) Secure link-up between Allies in Italy & Yugoslavia.
(4) Ensure proper FLOT stacks (e.g., no lone HQs, no under protected hexes with flipped aircraft).
(5) USA invasion (2 USMC corps & 1 div) from South China Sea.
Actions.
land - CW, Free France, China, USSR.
combine - USA.
Italy. von Bock & AA div mountain "hold out".
PTO Invasion Target?
Option 1?
(1) Telok Betong (automatic vs 0 strength notional) with the objective reinforcing next turn to capture Palembang Oil RPx2 (last remaining Japanese Oil RPs) and possible Batavia & 2 stored oil.
Option 2?
(2) Kiungchow (automatic vs 0 strength notional) with the objective of reinforcing next turn and pushing into Southern China and capturing Canton.
(2b) Requires FTC (i.e., HQ) to enter China, which is definitely limiting.
Other?
(3) USMC corps (7-4, 5-4) & div (1-4) invades at full strength.
(3b) The USN (will) have 4 BBs with a total 16 shore bombardment factors.
(3c) Look at invading directly against Palembang, which is swamp and halves shore bombardment, doubles defender.
(3d) PWIN around 60% to 70%, which is too low to risk 2 corps & div.
(3e) Recommendations?
Weather.
D10(+0) = 4 -> fine weather across the globe continues.
Western Allied Impulse Objectives.
(1) Eliminated von Bock HQ-I & AA div while "minimizing" flips and if successful in both reduce chance of partisans in Italy from around 14% to 0%.
(2) However; protect flipped aircraft & saved BPs "just in case".
(3) Secure link-up between Allies in Italy & Yugoslavia.
(4) Ensure proper FLOT stacks (e.g., no lone HQs, no under protected hexes with flipped aircraft).
(5) USA invasion (2 USMC corps & 1 div) from South China Sea.
Actions.
land - CW, Free France, China, USSR.
combine - USA.
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Option 1?
(1) Telok Betong (automatic vs 0 strength notional) with the objective reinforcing next turn to capture Palembang Oil RPx2 (last remaining Japanese Oil RPs) and possible Batavia & 2 stored oil.
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(2) Kiungchow (automatic vs 0 strength notional) with the objective of reinforcing next turn and pushing into Southern China and capturing Canton.
(2b) Requires FTC (i.e., HQ) to enter China, which is definitely limiting.
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(3) USMC corps (7-4, 5-4) & div (1-4) invades at full strength.
(3b) The USN (will) have 4 BBs with a total 16 shore bombardment factors.
(3c) Look at invading directly against Palembang, which is swamp and halves shore bombardment, doubles defender.
(3d) PWIN around 60% to 70%, which is too low to risk 2 corps & div.
(3e) Recommendations?
Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 25. Sep/Oct 1943. Allied #7. MTO Command.
Combined Chiefs of Staff to MTO Command: In pursuant of active war directives USA-WAR-51, USA-WAR-55, given fine weather and lateness of the turn, your command will eliminate the von Leeb Mtn redoubt with the best chance of success and without compromising FLOT in Italy and the Balkans.
von Leeb Mtn Redoubt.
MTO Command Staff Attack Planning.
Ground Strike, Ground Support Allocation.
(1) Air support - USAAF 4 F/B wings with 5,2,2,2 TAC, 1 bomber with 1 TAC and 1 RAF ATR wing with 2 TAC.
(2) Flip of AA/AT div not only adds +1 to the assault but reduces DF by from a total of 7x2=14 to 5x2=10, which has the cumulative effect of increasing assault odds by +4.314.
(3) Attack packages recommendation based on the table below are:
(a) Ground Strike - USSAF P-61 F/B(5), P-38 F/B(2), P-38 F/B(2) -> with 68% chance of flipping AA/AT div.
(b) Ground Support - RAF ATR(2), USAAF F6F-3 F/B(2) ,B-18(1) -> +5 factors.
-- or -- (c) No ground strike, all ground support -> +14 factors.
Assault Attack Planning.
(4) Option 1 with ground support package 3(c) (+14 factors) vs Option 2 (ground strike package 3(a) & ground support package 3(b) + 5 factors).
(5) Option 2 gives the higher expected (or weighted) PWIN of 93.6% vs 88.9% for option 1.
(6) MTO Command Staff recommends Assault Option 2 with ground strike package 3(a) and ground support package 3(b).
(7) MTO Command ACCEPTS recommendation and gives the order to EXECUTE IMMEDIATELY.
Combined Chiefs of Staff to MTO Command: In pursuant of active war directives USA-WAR-51, USA-WAR-55, given fine weather and lateness of the turn, your command will eliminate the von Leeb Mtn redoubt with the best chance of success and without compromising FLOT in Italy and the Balkans.
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Ground Strike, Ground Support Allocation.
(1) Air support - USAAF 4 F/B wings with 5,2,2,2 TAC, 1 bomber with 1 TAC and 1 RAF ATR wing with 2 TAC.
(2) Flip of AA/AT div not only adds +1 to the assault but reduces DF by from a total of 7x2=14 to 5x2=10, which has the cumulative effect of increasing assault odds by +4.314.
(3) Attack packages recommendation based on the table below are:
(a) Ground Strike - USSAF P-61 F/B(5), P-38 F/B(2), P-38 F/B(2) -> with 68% chance of flipping AA/AT div.
(b) Ground Support - RAF ATR(2), USAAF F6F-3 F/B(2) ,B-18(1) -> +5 factors.
-- or -- (c) No ground strike, all ground support -> +14 factors.
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(4) Option 1 with ground support package 3(c) (+14 factors) vs Option 2 (ground strike package 3(a) & ground support package 3(b) + 5 factors).
(5) Option 2 gives the higher expected (or weighted) PWIN of 93.6% vs 88.9% for option 1.
(6) MTO Command Staff recommends Assault Option 2 with ground strike package 3(a) and ground support package 3(b).
(7) MTO Command ACCEPTS recommendation and gives the order to EXECUTE IMMEDIATELY.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 25. Sep/Oct 1943. Allied #7. PTO.
Combat Logs.
Port Strike. Canton, China.
Combat Logs.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 25. Sep/Oct 1943. Allied #7. PTO.
Naval Moves.
(1) 2 of 3 USN naval moves (US combine) used by PTO command.
(2) NM 1. TRS Gp 4252 w/III USMC corps & TRS Gp 4255 (empty). Manilla -> South China Sea[3], embarks USMC V corps (Tarakan, NEI).
(3) NM 2. USN New Jersey. SCS[4] -> SCS[3], embarks USMC 2nd div (Tarakan, NEI).
Amphibious Landing (Auto). Telok Betong, NEI.
(2) 1 of 4 USA land moves used by PTO command (leaving 3 land moves for MTO command).
(3) Only 1 required because invasion was against 0 strength notional.
Naval Moves.
(1) 2 of 3 USN naval moves (US combine) used by PTO command.
(2) NM 1. TRS Gp 4252 w/III USMC corps & TRS Gp 4255 (empty). Manilla -> South China Sea[3], embarks USMC V corps (Tarakan, NEI).
(3) NM 2. USN New Jersey. SCS[4] -> SCS[3], embarks USMC 2nd div (Tarakan, NEI).
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(2) 1 of 4 USA land moves used by PTO command (leaving 3 land moves for MTO command).
(3) Only 1 required because invasion was against 0 strength notional.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 25. Sep/Oct 1943. Allied #7. Asian Theater. China.
Combat Logs.
Emergency IJA HQ Supply (Hata) Decision.
Land Combat. E1-Sian, China.
End of Impulse.
Combat Logs.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 25. Sep/Oct 1943. Allied #7. BOA.
Combat Logs.
North Atlantic.
(1) USN 1 of 3 NM (combine). 2 CPs. Norfolk -> North Atlantic[0] and replaces 2 of 5 RN CPs lost/aborted earlier this turn.
Central Atlantic.
(2) USN, no search, no combat.
Cape St. Vincent.
(3) USN, no search, no combat.
Combat Logs.
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(1) USN 1 of 3 NM (combine). 2 CPs. Norfolk -> North Atlantic[0] and replaces 2 of 5 RN CPs lost/aborted earlier this turn.
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(2) USN, no search, no combat.
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(3) USN, no search, no combat.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 25. Sep/Oct 1943. Allied #7. MTO.
Combat Logs.
West Med.
Ground Strike. Florence, Italy.
(1) Western Allied ground strike misses keep coming (this turn).
Italian Partisan Chance (Post Ground Strike).
(1) If the upcoming assault to take Florence fails then there's a significant chance that an Italian partisan will appear at the end of this turn.
(2) French Inf & Mtn corps used to garrison Rome (Tyrrhenian Sea Coast), Ancona (Adriatic Coast) and protect US saved BPs in Rome and numerous flipped allied planes.
Combat Logs.
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(1) Western Allied ground strike misses keep coming (this turn).
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(1) If the upcoming assault to take Florence fails then there's a significant chance that an Italian partisan will appear at the end of this turn.
(2) French Inf & Mtn corps used to garrison Rome (Tyrrhenian Sea Coast), Ancona (Adriatic Coast) and protect US saved BPs in Rome and numerous flipped allied planes.
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Ronnie
Re: GW Counterfactual Take 3.
Turn 25. Sep/Oct 1943. Allied #7. MTO.
Land Combat. Florence.
(1) 3 of 4 USA (combine) land moves used to position for the assault on Florence.
0% Chance of Italian Partisan (now).
End of Impulse.
Land Combat. Florence.
(1) 3 of 4 USA (combine) land moves used to position for the assault on Florence.
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Ronnie