Dont know how but (edit:few days days ago Kwangchowan switch to allies. Base have lvl 2 AF and by game is not considered as part of china. There is no other base that can triger kamikaze)
KAMIKAZE ARE ACTIVATED
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, Docup(A)-Koniu(J)
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
Attention, Attention.
Dont know how but (edit:few days days ago Kwangchowan switch to allies. Base have lvl 2 AF and by game is not considered as part of china. There is no other base that can triger kamikaze)
KAMIKAZE ARE ACTIVATED
Dont know how but (edit:few days days ago Kwangchowan switch to allies. Base have lvl 2 AF and by game is not considered as part of china. There is no other base that can triger kamikaze)
KAMIKAZE ARE ACTIVATED
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
Imagine if the fighter-bomber version of George was present in the game with its 4 x 250kg bombload. Would have made a great kamikaze plane.
RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
Here we go!!!
Should be fun for you now. [:)]
Should be fun for you now. [:)]
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill
RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
I change two army bomber groups to kamikaze. I will use them tomorrow against ships that show up today near Rangoon. I will not convert more, to early i think.ORIGINAL: obvert
Here we go!!!
Should be fun for you now. [:)]
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
8 August
Burma
LBA launch against ships south of Rangoon. Sadly 80% of planes stay on ground or was unable to find targets. Enemy ships are protected by ~200 plane CAP. Mostly Hellcats.
I start believing this is not major invasion force at lest so far dont llok like that(almost no troop caring ships). Instead of moving toward target Docup is keeping them south-west of Rangoon. There is at lest one BB in his forces but i will not name that major force. Probably something like 8 CVE, CA or BB TF lot of DDs. I believe it is huge resupply mission to Rangoon, attempt to test Japanese defense in area or attempt to attract attention of KB and LBA forces. I am betting option 1 or 3
Just in case KB in Pacific is warming engines but not against Burma TF but against potential Pacific landing.
I lost 55 planes in those attacks.
Morning Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 50,55
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes
Japanese aircraft
P1Y2 Frances x 22
Ki-84r Frank x 35
Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 35
Hellcat I x 7
Wildcat V x 14
FM-2 Wildcat x 18
F6F-3 Hellcat x 108
Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y2 Frances: 11 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
xAK Triona
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 50,55
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 114 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 9
Ki-84r Frank x 4
Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 35
Hellcat I x 7
Wildcat V x 14
FM-2 Wildcat x 18
F6F-3 Hellcat x 105
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 5 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 50,55
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 117 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 11
Ki-84r Frank x 11
Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 34
Hellcat I x 7
Wildcat V x 13
FM-2 Wildcat x 17
F6F-3 Hellcat x 102
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-84r Frank: 4 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Hellcat I: 1 destroyed
Wildcat V: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
BB Valiant
Burma
LBA launch against ships south of Rangoon. Sadly 80% of planes stay on ground or was unable to find targets. Enemy ships are protected by ~200 plane CAP. Mostly Hellcats.
I start believing this is not major invasion force at lest so far dont llok like that(almost no troop caring ships). Instead of moving toward target Docup is keeping them south-west of Rangoon. There is at lest one BB in his forces but i will not name that major force. Probably something like 8 CVE, CA or BB TF lot of DDs. I believe it is huge resupply mission to Rangoon, attempt to test Japanese defense in area or attempt to attract attention of KB and LBA forces. I am betting option 1 or 3
Just in case KB in Pacific is warming engines but not against Burma TF but against potential Pacific landing.
I lost 55 planes in those attacks.
Morning Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 50,55
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes
Japanese aircraft
P1Y2 Frances x 22
Ki-84r Frank x 35
Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 35
Hellcat I x 7
Wildcat V x 14
FM-2 Wildcat x 18
F6F-3 Hellcat x 108
Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y2 Frances: 11 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
xAK Triona
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 50,55
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 114 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 9
Ki-84r Frank x 4
Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 35
Hellcat I x 7
Wildcat V x 14
FM-2 Wildcat x 18
F6F-3 Hellcat x 105
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 5 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 50,55
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 117 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 11
Ki-84r Frank x 11
Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 34
Hellcat I x 7
Wildcat V x 13
FM-2 Wildcat x 17
F6F-3 Hellcat x 102
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-84r Frank: 4 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Hellcat I: 1 destroyed
Wildcat V: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
BB Valiant
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
9 August 1944
We had sync bug. Personaly i prefer Allied version. According to Docup he saw him losing CVE, another CVE in sinking condition and few bigger ships also damage. But non of that happens.
Burma
So it looks that target is Port Blair. Entire allied fleet is now in Port Blair hex. Strangely no landing, naval or air bombardments. Nothing. Only CAP and sweeps.
Again most of bombers because of weather stay on ground and those that fly show how coordinated attack should not look.
Days start with Kamikaze flying against small TF near Moulmein. I am happy with result. Conventional attack in such weather probably will end with 0 hits.
Morning Air attack on TF, near Moulmein at 54,56
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 12
Ki-84r Frank x 35
Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 9
Hurricane IIc Trop x 9
A-36 Mustang x 15
P-38H Lightning x 30
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 5 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 5 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 2 destroyed
A-36 Mustang: 3 destroyed
Allied Ships
AM Kyber, Kamikaze hits 2, and is sunk
AM Bihar, Kamikaze hits 1, and is sunk
AM Lismore, Kamikaze hits 1, and is sunk
Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-49-IIa Helen flying as kamikaze
Kamikaze: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 16000 feet
Later some TB attack ships in Port Blair. ~100 bomber lunch to attack but only one wave ( 10 bomber[X(] and 90 fighters) arrive with escort. Others arrive without escort and where slaughtered. In total 90 bomber and 40 fighters lost. Lucky most of pilots is only WIA.
B7A2 have his combat baptism, They attack smal LST TF near Ramree Island
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ramree Island at 54,48
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 91 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes
Japanese aircraft
B7A2 Grace x 21
N1K2-J George x 12
Japanese aircraft losses
B7A2 Grace: 2 damaged
Allied Ships
LST 160, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LST 239
LST-27, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
LST 157
LST 163
LST 214, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
Aircraft Attacking:
21 x B7A2 Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
I have big hopes for tomorrow.
We had sync bug. Personaly i prefer Allied version. According to Docup he saw him losing CVE, another CVE in sinking condition and few bigger ships also damage. But non of that happens.
Burma
So it looks that target is Port Blair. Entire allied fleet is now in Port Blair hex. Strangely no landing, naval or air bombardments. Nothing. Only CAP and sweeps.
Again most of bombers because of weather stay on ground and those that fly show how coordinated attack should not look.
Days start with Kamikaze flying against small TF near Moulmein. I am happy with result. Conventional attack in such weather probably will end with 0 hits.
Morning Air attack on TF, near Moulmein at 54,56
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 12
Ki-84r Frank x 35
Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 9
Hurricane IIc Trop x 9
A-36 Mustang x 15
P-38H Lightning x 30
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 5 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 5 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 2 destroyed
A-36 Mustang: 3 destroyed
Allied Ships
AM Kyber, Kamikaze hits 2, and is sunk
AM Bihar, Kamikaze hits 1, and is sunk
AM Lismore, Kamikaze hits 1, and is sunk
Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-49-IIa Helen flying as kamikaze
Kamikaze: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 16000 feet
Later some TB attack ships in Port Blair. ~100 bomber lunch to attack but only one wave ( 10 bomber[X(] and 90 fighters) arrive with escort. Others arrive without escort and where slaughtered. In total 90 bomber and 40 fighters lost. Lucky most of pilots is only WIA.
B7A2 have his combat baptism, They attack smal LST TF near Ramree Island
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ramree Island at 54,48
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 91 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes
Japanese aircraft
B7A2 Grace x 21
N1K2-J George x 12
Japanese aircraft losses
B7A2 Grace: 2 damaged
Allied Ships
LST 160, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LST 239
LST-27, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
LST 157
LST 163
LST 214, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
Aircraft Attacking:
21 x B7A2 Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
I have big hopes for tomorrow.
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
10 August 1944
Burma
Whether is against me.
From over 350 bombers i had ordered to strike against Port Blair only 100 fly.
Worts, bad weather again spreed my bombers all over and half of bombers arrive uncoordinated.
At lest this time we his something.
It can be good day if more waves of bombers arrive they might actually get trough CAP. Last wave of bomber was only intercepted by lees that 40 fighters and most of them was out of position. During day Japan lost 125 planes (30 pilots KIA, 50 WIA)
Allied troops don land on beaches of Port Blair. Docup was not happy with it, he mess with settings. Or he want to think me that.
4E visit Akyab destroying 30 planes on ground and closing AF
During entire day we score one hit. P1Y2 damaged from flak decide to crash in to CVE.
Armor penetrated plus Ammo explosion. Docup confirm that CVE is in sinking condition.
Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Blair at 46,58
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
P1Y2 Frances x 33 where are escorts
Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 29
Hellcat I x 14
FM-2 Wildcat x 10
F4U-1A Corsair x 16
F6F-3 Hellcat x 35
Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y2 Frances: 4 destroyed, 3 damaged
P1Y2 Frances: 2 destroyed by flak
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
CVL Unicorn
CVE St. Lo
CVE Begum
CVE Tulagi, Kamikaze hits 1, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
8 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 2000 feet * they should fly with TT
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
Tomorrow i will try again. Fresh units arriving, old moved to Manila are resting and taking replacements.
So far 3 days of combat cost me ~350 planes (over 100 pilots KIA, 100 WIA) allies lost 3xLCT, 3xAM, and probably CVE[:(]
Good side of that is that i am fighting over own base so most pilots will return to combat sooner or later
Burma
Whether is against me.
From over 350 bombers i had ordered to strike against Port Blair only 100 fly.
Worts, bad weather again spreed my bombers all over and half of bombers arrive uncoordinated.
At lest this time we his something.
It can be good day if more waves of bombers arrive they might actually get trough CAP. Last wave of bomber was only intercepted by lees that 40 fighters and most of them was out of position. During day Japan lost 125 planes (30 pilots KIA, 50 WIA)
Allied troops don land on beaches of Port Blair. Docup was not happy with it, he mess with settings. Or he want to think me that.
4E visit Akyab destroying 30 planes on ground and closing AF
During entire day we score one hit. P1Y2 damaged from flak decide to crash in to CVE.
Armor penetrated plus Ammo explosion. Docup confirm that CVE is in sinking condition.
Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Blair at 46,58
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
P1Y2 Frances x 33 where are escorts
Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 29
Hellcat I x 14
FM-2 Wildcat x 10
F4U-1A Corsair x 16
F6F-3 Hellcat x 35
Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y2 Frances: 4 destroyed, 3 damaged
P1Y2 Frances: 2 destroyed by flak
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
CVL Unicorn
CVE St. Lo
CVE Begum
CVE Tulagi, Kamikaze hits 1, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
8 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 2000 feet * they should fly with TT
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
Tomorrow i will try again. Fresh units arriving, old moved to Manila are resting and taking replacements.
So far 3 days of combat cost me ~350 planes (over 100 pilots KIA, 100 WIA) allies lost 3xLCT, 3xAM, and probably CVE[:(]
Good side of that is that i am fighting over own base so most pilots will return to combat sooner or later
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
Importance of Port Blair.
I try to find why Docup is landing in Port Blair.
In short term it not changing balance in region. I long term that give AF lvl 8 to Alliance. So he can operate 4E from there. Also it can be good support base to potential landing in Malaya coast.
There is also possibility that it is attempt to force me to move KB to area and opening Pacific for him.(I will not do that). So if he already there why not capture PB as bonus.
Any other ideas??
I try to find why Docup is landing in Port Blair.
In short term it not changing balance in region. I long term that give AF lvl 8 to Alliance. So he can operate 4E from there. Also it can be good support base to potential landing in Malaya coast.
There is also possibility that it is attempt to force me to move KB to area and opening Pacific for him.(I will not do that). So if he already there why not capture PB as bonus.
Any other ideas??
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
ORIGINAL: koniu
Importance of Port Blair.
Any other ideas??
How about because he is timid and needs to build confidence after the mauling you have given him.[:)]
RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
ORIGINAL: koniu
Importance of Port Blair.
Any other ideas??
How about because he is timid and needs to build confidence after the mauling you have given him.[:)]
His troops must be very scared because second day they refuse to land on beaches
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
11 August 1944
Burma
Not a single bomber fly against invasion forces. Don`t know why. Weather was decent.
Finally Allied troops land in Port Blair. Indian ID, Indian IB and Base Forces - 600AV total. I have 250 AV in 2x terrain behind fort 5. Supply are low but as son and enemy CVEs retreat i will start air lifting them.
It looks that CVE Tulagi sunk, sinking sound heard both game and tracker show it as sunk near Little Andaman plus i see small TF dispatched from invasion force and moving north-west. Probably escort for Tulagi
DEI
D4Y1 from Ternate sunk xAK trying to unload supplies in dot base north of Boela
Wake
I move DD close to island. Destroyer was atacked by 30 DB. all miss
Mini KB
Ships are sailing to meet with KB. I have plan to use CVEs as forward guard in next battle. O hope at lest some bombers will go for them instead for KB. They will send over 120 fighters in air.
Burma
Not a single bomber fly against invasion forces. Don`t know why. Weather was decent.
Finally Allied troops land in Port Blair. Indian ID, Indian IB and Base Forces - 600AV total. I have 250 AV in 2x terrain behind fort 5. Supply are low but as son and enemy CVEs retreat i will start air lifting them.
It looks that CVE Tulagi sunk, sinking sound heard both game and tracker show it as sunk near Little Andaman plus i see small TF dispatched from invasion force and moving north-west. Probably escort for Tulagi
DEI
D4Y1 from Ternate sunk xAK trying to unload supplies in dot base north of Boela
Wake
I move DD close to island. Destroyer was atacked by 30 DB. all miss
Mini KB
Ships are sailing to meet with KB. I have plan to use CVEs as forward guard in next battle. O hope at lest some bombers will go for them instead for KB. They will send over 120 fighters in air.
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
Gee, that's not enough under those circumstances. He should have brought a proper big hammer : Bomb the hell out of the base for 2 days with BBs, CV air and LBA, to soften it up. He is brave to continue the fight, but he isn't always helping himself.
Adieu Ô Dieu odieux... signé Adam
RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
ORIGINAL: veji1
Gee, that's not enough under those circumstances. He should have brought a proper big hammer : Bomb the hell out of the base for 2 days with BBs, CV air and LBA, to soften it up. He is brave to continue the fight, but he isn't always helping himself.
You are absolutely right i can do that, but i will not.
Only LBA will fight there. I cant sent there major naval forces because i believe seconds after i will revile KB in that area Docup will move in Pacific.
It is 8/44, I can afford losing Port Blair but fighting for it will give Allied window to land in Pacific and that will be bigger problem for me than Port Blair.
Also forces he using there - only 6-8 CVE, 1-2 BB, few CLs lot of destroyers but no CAs and lack of AKA,APA ships. Also he not moving fast, 2 days to travel 8 hex distance, 3 days to unload, everything is suggesting that this move is a trap for KB and capturing of PB is only bonus.
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
12 August 44
Burma
Coordination is PITA. Even if i get good escort number they fly with 20 or less bombers.
I lost this turn 200 planes but i probably sunk another CVE and another is damaged.
Time to rest for day or two. Almost 500 planes lost in 4 days.
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Blair at 46,58
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Japanese aircraft
B6N2 Jill x 26
Ki-84r Frank x 1
Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 16
Hellcat I x 10
FM-2 Wildcat x 7
F4U-1A Corsair x 5
F6F-3 Hellcat x 41
Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2 Jill: 10 destroyed, 3 damaged
B6N2 Jill: 1 destroyed by flak
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
CVE Savo Island
CVL Unicorn
CVE Shah, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Port Blair at 46,58
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 94 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes
Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 4
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 23
Ki-84r Frank x 61
Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 11
Hellcat I x 11
FM-2 Wildcat x 5
F4U-1A Corsair x 5
F6F-3 Hellcat x 45
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 14 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Corsair II: 1 destroyed
Hellcat I: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed
Allied Ships
CVE Ranee
CVE Begum, Kamikaze hits 1
CVE Kalinin Bay
CVE Wake Island
CVE Marcus Island
Burma
Coordination is PITA. Even if i get good escort number they fly with 20 or less bombers.
I lost this turn 200 planes but i probably sunk another CVE and another is damaged.
Time to rest for day or two. Almost 500 planes lost in 4 days.
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Blair at 46,58
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Japanese aircraft
B6N2 Jill x 26
Ki-84r Frank x 1
Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 16
Hellcat I x 10
FM-2 Wildcat x 7
F4U-1A Corsair x 5
F6F-3 Hellcat x 41
Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2 Jill: 10 destroyed, 3 damaged
B6N2 Jill: 1 destroyed by flak
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
CVE Savo Island
CVL Unicorn
CVE Shah, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Port Blair at 46,58
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 94 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes
Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 4
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 23
Ki-84r Frank x 61
Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 11
Hellcat I x 11
FM-2 Wildcat x 5
F4U-1A Corsair x 5
F6F-3 Hellcat x 45
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 14 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Corsair II: 1 destroyed
Hellcat I: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed
Allied Ships
CVE Ranee
CVE Begum, Kamikaze hits 1
CVE Kalinin Bay
CVE Wake Island
CVE Marcus Island
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
ORIGINAL: koniu
Coordination is PITA.
I sympathize!
What size is the airbase your are flying from?
RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
ORIGINAL: koniu
Coordination is PITA.
I sympathize!
What size is the airbase your are flying from?
Bangkok lvl 9
Moulmein lvl 8
Victoria Point lvl 6
Tavoy lvl 5
Rahaeng lvl 6
I try to not overstock AF. I have enough or almost enough AV support. Al AF have Air HQ or are in HQ range.
But i believe it is how it should be since beta changes. I also attacking on almost maximal escort range 10-12 hex. Also I believe weather is big factor. I am struggling with storms all over area. In last 5 days planes fly only 3 time and newer all of them. Big number return to base because they where unable to find targets or because of weather. Two times non of bombers fly during both AM and PM phase
For cost of 500 planes, 200 pilots KIA and 200 WIA i sunk 2xCVE, 3xLCT, 3xAM and i damage 1xCVE. High price.
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
At this point of war you do not need sunk his ships. Every damaged ship bigger than DD/CL ship will be disabled to end of game anyway.
Mixing navy with army a/c will reduce badly chance for coordination strike either.
Mixing navy with army a/c will reduce badly chance for coordination strike either.
RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
ORIGINAL: MrKane
Mixing navy with army a/c will reduce badly chance for coordination strike either.
I believe You are partially wrong. It is no navy-army type problem. I think for game engine it is irrelevant. Most likely it is becoouse navy and army planes have much small difference in cruise speed.
Army:
Ki-43 - 273
Ki-44 - 249
Ki-45 - 232
Ki-84 - 277
Ki-49 - 217
Ki-67 - 249
Navy:
A6M5 - 230
N1K2 - 230
A7M2 - 259
B6N2 - 207
B7A2 - 250
P1Y2 - 230
D4Y4 - 230
I see two groups how planes should cooperate
Group 1 - speed delta 23mph
Ki-45 - 232
N1K2 - 230
A6M5 - 230
Ki-49 - 217
B6N2 - 207
P1Y2 - 230
D4Y4 - 230
I we remove B6N2 from group 1 we are able to reduce cruise difference to 15mph
Group 2 - speed delta 10mph
Ki-44 - 249
A7M2 - 259
B7A2 - 250
Ki-67 - 249
If we decide that magic number for cruise speed is 230mph, we already see that Ki-43 and Ki-84 are not best escort planes at lest not for group 1, maybe for group 2
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
13 August 1944
Burma
Invasion fleet retreat north out of bomber range
Troops on ground attack. We hold but i lost 50% AV. I don`t think i will hold more that day or two. Supplies are in red.
R&D
A7M2 advance to 12/44
Japan
Home Islands supplies reach 2,1M. I have plan to have at end of Year ~3-3,5M
Burma
Invasion fleet retreat north out of bomber range
Troops on ground attack. We hold but i lost 50% AV. I don`t think i will hold more that day or two. Supplies are in red.
R&D
A7M2 advance to 12/44
Japan
Home Islands supplies reach 2,1M. I have plan to have at end of Year ~3-3,5M
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
ORIGINAL: koniu
I believe You are partially wrong. It is no navy-army type problem. I think for game engine it is irrelevant. Most likely it is becoouse navy and army planes have much small difference in cruise speed.
I know (some) people keep saying stuff like speed effect coordination. But as you know I have tested this extensively and I have never seen even the slightest indication that speed will have any impact whatsoever on coordination.
