A little false intel never hurt anyone !!!
PZB has a fair idea where I am going its either left right or straight up the middle !!!
[:D][:D][:D]
Andy Mac v PZB ....The Allies Fight Back
Moderators: wdolson, Don Bowen, mogami
RE: Why Hongkong?
ORIGINAL: Andy Mac
Well after I clear up the Camranh bay pocket I will have more forces available for other missions.
However supply is an issue I am down to 250k and I need all that for finishing of the pocket and keeping the B29's supplied
A convoy with 300k supplies is en route but the Aussies and Yanks of the Malaya Army have worked hard and need a months break before future operations
Iwo is now well supplied with 2,000 AV behind lvl 9 forts and its mountainous so thats 18,000 adjusted AV no way no how is it falling If I threw the entire mobile US Army onto that island it is impregnable.
I only keep my forces there to make PZB keep his army there as well. After I have Toyohara I will probably evacuate my forces.
Bonin is also well garrisoned.
Re PZB's fleet he still has a strong surface TF and at least one carrrier
VP's I am now about 4,000 ahead 86:82k in order to draw I will need to have 1.75x PZB's VP's so I have a lot to do
Andy
Is it possible for him to destroy your forces on Iwo? This would bring lots of points for him.
YOu are doing quite good in Burma. DO you think you can finish PzB off there?
If you like what I said love me,if you dislike what I say ignore me!
"Extra Bavaria non est vita! Et sic est vita non est ita!"
"Extra Bavaria non est vita! Et sic est vita non est ita!"
RE: Why not Manila?
ORIGINAL: Andy Mac
A little false intel never hurt anyone !!!
PZB has a fair idea where I am going its either left right or straight up the middle !!!
[:D][:D][:D]
You should not have made your plans so clear to him! [;)]
If you like what I said love me,if you dislike what I say ignore me!
"Extra Bavaria non est vita! Et sic est vita non est ita!"
"Extra Bavaria non est vita! Et sic est vita non est ita!"
RE: Why Hongkong?
Na as long as I keep them supplied I have 1200 AV on the island plus lvl 4 forts and mountainous terrain as long as I supply he cannot kick me off either.
I hope he tries !!!
I hope he tries !!!
RE: Why Hongkong?
What is the japanese unit north from Shikka do?
Your plan sounds quite good, but bears a high risk imho.
Why don´t you land both armies at Toyohara? This would give you a much better chance to occupy it fast, then you can do your landing in Japan main islands. If both of your armies won´t succeed fast, you will loose the war.
So my plan would be:
Take out the airfields at Paramushiro and Etorofo
Build enough large bases in Alaska to repair damaged ships, put ARs, AEs and ASs there
Bring about 500000supply points into Alaskan bases with large ports
Then take the very large hammer and get Toyohara and the small islands.
Clear Toyohara and Shikka of enemy units (can one force Soviet activation this way?)
Bring with you lots of fighters and medium bombers.
Watch Sovietunion and make use of Sovietbases with your medium and longrange bombers (or do you have houserules against that?)
After conquering Toyohara and Shikka level Northern Japans industry.
the next step would then be to land at Ominato, to cut off all Japanese units in Hokkaido.
Your plan sounds quite good, but bears a high risk imho.
Why don´t you land both armies at Toyohara? This would give you a much better chance to occupy it fast, then you can do your landing in Japan main islands. If both of your armies won´t succeed fast, you will loose the war.
So my plan would be:
Take out the airfields at Paramushiro and Etorofo
Build enough large bases in Alaska to repair damaged ships, put ARs, AEs and ASs there
Bring about 500000supply points into Alaskan bases with large ports
Then take the very large hammer and get Toyohara and the small islands.
Clear Toyohara and Shikka of enemy units (can one force Soviet activation this way?)
Bring with you lots of fighters and medium bombers.
Watch Sovietunion and make use of Sovietbases with your medium and longrange bombers (or do you have houserules against that?)
After conquering Toyohara and Shikka level Northern Japans industry.
the next step would then be to land at Ominato, to cut off all Japanese units in Hokkaido.
If you like what I said love me,if you dislike what I say ignore me!
"Extra Bavaria non est vita! Et sic est vita non est ita!"
"Extra Bavaria non est vita! Et sic est vita non est ita!"
RE: Why Hongkong?
I suspect the units in the non base hexes are there to stop landings in non base hexes.
I probably will land both armies Frank but as its not an atoll I will land them sequentially in case 10th Army can get the job done alone.
If Paramushiro is lightly guarded I will try to take it but in reality its to far out to make a fighter base so I will take several of the 0 bases and set masses of Seabees to upgrade them to lvl 1.
It will take time but it can be done.
Toyohara is a good target because it is a plains hex so it is the obvious target.....perhaps to obvious....
I probably will land both armies Frank but as its not an atoll I will land them sequentially in case 10th Army can get the job done alone.
If Paramushiro is lightly guarded I will try to take it but in reality its to far out to make a fighter base so I will take several of the 0 bases and set masses of Seabees to upgrade them to lvl 1.
It will take time but it can be done.
Toyohara is a good target because it is a plains hex so it is the obvious target.....perhaps to obvious....
RE: Why Hongkong?
More to follow tonight but it looks like I was PZB'd again.......
B29's fragged on the runway... more to follow when I return from home
B29's fragged on the runway... more to follow when I return from home
RE: SAC Strikes Back !!!
OK how to talk about today...
Well it started ok I ran over a sub that identified my amphibs... not a great start...
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/28/45
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ASW attack at 64,53
Japanese Ships
SS RO-50, hits 18, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
AK Pierre Victory
AK Luxemburg Victory
AK Hastings Victory
LCI LCI-796
LCI(G) LCI(G)-540
MSW Execute
MSW Ardent
MSW Dour
MSW Diploma
MSW Device
MSW Design
MSW Density
MSW Devastator
DE McNulty
DE Leslie L. B. Knox
DE George A. Johnson
DE Doherty
Then I lose another sub....
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Sub attack at 66,44
Japanese Ships
PC Amami
PC PC-104
PC PC-83
Allied Ships
SS Billfish, hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
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Oh look I launch 390 B29's at Bases in japan and get yup you got it 1 hit....night bombing is a waste of time...
Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 66,43
Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 24
C6N1-S Myrt x 56
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 14
Allied aircraft
P-61A Black Widow x 37
Japanese aircraft losses
C6N1-S Myrt: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-61A Black Widow: 15 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x P-61A Black Widow bombing at 2000 feet
6 x P-61A Black Widow bombing at 2000 feet
8 x P-61A Black Widow bombing at 2000 feet
5 x P-61A Black Widow bombing at 2000 feet
5 x P-61A Black Widow bombing at 2000 feet
7 x P-61A Black Widow bombing at 2000 feet
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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 66,43
Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 24
C6N1-S Myrt x 53
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 14
Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 40
Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-S Irving: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
C6N1-S Myrt: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged
hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
13 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Night Air attack on Hiroshima/Kure , at 60,41
Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 5
C6N1-S Myrt x 10
Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 110
Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-S Irving: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
C6N1-S Myrt: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 8 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
13 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
24 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
15 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
10 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
16 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
The daylight arrrives my SCTF clears out Iwo !!!
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Iwo Jima at 63,53
Japanese Ships
DD Keyaki, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
Allied Ships
DD Charles Badger
DD Tingey
DE Vammen
DE Rolf
DE William Seiverling
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Iwo Jima at 63,53
Japanese Ships
AP Ryusei Maru, Shell hits 14, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
Allied Ships
DD Charles Badger
DD Tingey
DE Vammen
DE Rolf
DE William Seiverling
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Iwo Jima at 63,53
Japanese Ships
AG AG-116, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
AG AG-117
AG AG-5032
AG AG-5069
AG AG-5090, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
AG AG-5117
AG AG-5138, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
AG AG-5143
AG AG-5162, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
AG AG-5188
AG AG-2088
AG AG-2529, Shell hits 37, and is sunk
Allied Ships
DD Charles Badger
DD Tingey
DE Vammen
DE Rolf
DE William Seiverling
Then that evil nasty sneaky JFB pulls another special on me....
This had me frothing at the mouth it was a great move never saw it coming the only reason the Black Widows were even there is because they were in transit to Marcus.
Looks like a nasty attack
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Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63
Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 284
Allied aircraft
P-61A Black Widow x 8
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 12 destroyed, 25 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-61A Black Widow: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-29 Superfortress: 18 destroyed
TBM Avenger: 2 destroyed
Mosquito PR.IX: 1 destroyed
Allied ground losses:
1466 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
Vehicles lost 17
Airbase hits 20
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 99
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
11 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
8 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
5 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
10 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
14 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
11 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
6 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
15 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
14 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
7 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
7 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
6 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
10 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
5 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
Ohhh and it gets worse....
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Day Air attack on TF, near Iwo Jima at 63,53
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 6
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 18
F6F Hellcat x 5
F4U-1 Corsair x 18
F4U-1D Corsair x 10
TBM Avenger x 12
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 6 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 8 damaged
Japanese Ships
DD Odake
DD Kaba
DD Hatsuume
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Iwo Jima at 63,53
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 24
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 16
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 30
F6F Hellcat x 7
F4U-1 Corsair x 14
F4U-1D Corsair x 14
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 24 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 16 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
CVE Lunga Point
CVE Shipley Bay, Kamikaze hits 3, on fire, heavy damage [:@][:@][:@]
CVE Shamrock Bay
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And thena carrier strike what I think is the last jap Carrier just unloaded her strike group at my CVE's and were beaten off
Day Air attack on TF, near Iwo Jima at 63,53
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 4
D4Y Judy x 22
B7A Grace x 33
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 30
F6F Hellcat x 7
F4U-1 Corsair x 14
F4U-1D Corsair x 14
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 4 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 21 destroyed
B7A Grace: 33 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF, near Iwo Jima at 63,53
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 27
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 12
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 29
F6F Hellcat x 7
F4U-1 Corsair x 14
F4U-1D Corsair x 14
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 27 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 12 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
AK Paducah Victory, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire
DE Shelton, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire
MSW Execute
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Day Air attack on Bonin , at 65,52
Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 24
No Allied losses
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,54
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 8
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 24
Ki-100 Tony x 10
Ki-102a Randy x 5
Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 6
P-38J Lightning x 9
P-47D Thunderbolt x 10
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 6 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 5 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 1 destroyed
P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Japanese Ships
AK Uyo Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
1 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
5 x P-38J Lightning bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,54
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 8
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 20
Ki-100 Tony x 7
Ki-102a Randy x 4
Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 20
P-38J Lightning x 29
P-47D Thunderbolt x 30
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 5 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 21 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 9 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 5 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 1 damaged
P-38J Lightning: 3 destroyed
P-47D Thunderbolt: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged
Japanese Ships
AK Okitu Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire
AK Nagato Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
1 x P-38J Lightning bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x P-38J Lightning bombing at 2000 feet
9 x P-38J Lightning bombing at 2000 feet
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Sub attack at 65,45
Allied Ships
SS Threadfin
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ASW attack at 95,55
Japanese Ships
SS I-401, hits 14, heavy damage
Allied Ships
DD Black
DD Anthony
DD Ammen
DD Taussig
DD Massey
OK now this was a REAL shock 1:1 ok my troops were out of supply but even so 1:1 the convoy is unlading everything it can as fast as it can I have 50,000 tonnes of supply on the convoy and its all unloading STAT !!!
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Ground combat at Iwo Jima
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 119428 troops, 1025 guns, 616 vehicles, Assault Value =
2247
Defending force 56764 troops, 491 guns, 142 vehicles, Assault Value =
1246
Japanese max assault: 2436 - adjusted assault: 2790
Allied max defense: 1060 - adjusted defense: 1945
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
5611 casualties reported
Guns lost 112
Vehicles lost 5
Allied ground losses:
568 casualties reported
Guns lost 15
Vehicles lost 2
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Ground combat at Saigon
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 98091 troops, 641 guns, 94 vehicles, Assault Value =
2462
Defending force 49907 troops, 362 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 962
Japanese ground losses:
194 casualties reported
Well it started ok I ran over a sub that identified my amphibs... not a great start...
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/28/45
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ASW attack at 64,53
Japanese Ships
SS RO-50, hits 18, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
AK Pierre Victory
AK Luxemburg Victory
AK Hastings Victory
LCI LCI-796
LCI(G) LCI(G)-540
MSW Execute
MSW Ardent
MSW Dour
MSW Diploma
MSW Device
MSW Design
MSW Density
MSW Devastator
DE McNulty
DE Leslie L. B. Knox
DE George A. Johnson
DE Doherty
Then I lose another sub....
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Sub attack at 66,44
Japanese Ships
PC Amami
PC PC-104
PC PC-83
Allied Ships
SS Billfish, hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
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Oh look I launch 390 B29's at Bases in japan and get yup you got it 1 hit....night bombing is a waste of time...
Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 66,43
Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 24
C6N1-S Myrt x 56
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 14
Allied aircraft
P-61A Black Widow x 37
Japanese aircraft losses
C6N1-S Myrt: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-61A Black Widow: 15 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x P-61A Black Widow bombing at 2000 feet
6 x P-61A Black Widow bombing at 2000 feet
8 x P-61A Black Widow bombing at 2000 feet
5 x P-61A Black Widow bombing at 2000 feet
5 x P-61A Black Widow bombing at 2000 feet
7 x P-61A Black Widow bombing at 2000 feet
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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 66,43
Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 24
C6N1-S Myrt x 53
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 14
Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 40
Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-S Irving: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
C6N1-S Myrt: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged
hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
13 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Night Air attack on Hiroshima/Kure , at 60,41
Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 5
C6N1-S Myrt x 10
Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 110
Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-S Irving: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
C6N1-S Myrt: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 8 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
13 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
24 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
15 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
10 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
16 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
The daylight arrrives my SCTF clears out Iwo !!!
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Iwo Jima at 63,53
Japanese Ships
DD Keyaki, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
Allied Ships
DD Charles Badger
DD Tingey
DE Vammen
DE Rolf
DE William Seiverling
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Iwo Jima at 63,53
Japanese Ships
AP Ryusei Maru, Shell hits 14, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
Allied Ships
DD Charles Badger
DD Tingey
DE Vammen
DE Rolf
DE William Seiverling
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Iwo Jima at 63,53
Japanese Ships
AG AG-116, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
AG AG-117
AG AG-5032
AG AG-5069
AG AG-5090, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
AG AG-5117
AG AG-5138, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
AG AG-5143
AG AG-5162, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
AG AG-5188
AG AG-2088
AG AG-2529, Shell hits 37, and is sunk
Allied Ships
DD Charles Badger
DD Tingey
DE Vammen
DE Rolf
DE William Seiverling
Then that evil nasty sneaky JFB pulls another special on me....
This had me frothing at the mouth it was a great move never saw it coming the only reason the Black Widows were even there is because they were in transit to Marcus.
Looks like a nasty attack
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Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63
Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 284
Allied aircraft
P-61A Black Widow x 8
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 12 destroyed, 25 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-61A Black Widow: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-29 Superfortress: 18 destroyed
TBM Avenger: 2 destroyed
Mosquito PR.IX: 1 destroyed
Allied ground losses:
1466 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
Vehicles lost 17
Airbase hits 20
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 99
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
11 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
8 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
5 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
10 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
14 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
11 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
6 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
15 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
14 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
7 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
7 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
6 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
10 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
5 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
Ohhh and it gets worse....
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Day Air attack on TF, near Iwo Jima at 63,53
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 6
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 18
F6F Hellcat x 5
F4U-1 Corsair x 18
F4U-1D Corsair x 10
TBM Avenger x 12
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 6 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 8 damaged
Japanese Ships
DD Odake
DD Kaba
DD Hatsuume
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Iwo Jima at 63,53
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 24
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 16
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 30
F6F Hellcat x 7
F4U-1 Corsair x 14
F4U-1D Corsair x 14
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 24 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 16 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
CVE Lunga Point
CVE Shipley Bay, Kamikaze hits 3, on fire, heavy damage [:@][:@][:@]
CVE Shamrock Bay
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And thena carrier strike what I think is the last jap Carrier just unloaded her strike group at my CVE's and were beaten off
Day Air attack on TF, near Iwo Jima at 63,53
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 4
D4Y Judy x 22
B7A Grace x 33
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 30
F6F Hellcat x 7
F4U-1 Corsair x 14
F4U-1D Corsair x 14
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 4 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 21 destroyed
B7A Grace: 33 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF, near Iwo Jima at 63,53
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 27
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 12
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 29
F6F Hellcat x 7
F4U-1 Corsair x 14
F4U-1D Corsair x 14
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 27 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 12 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
AK Paducah Victory, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire
DE Shelton, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire
MSW Execute
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Day Air attack on Bonin , at 65,52
Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 24
No Allied losses
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,54
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 8
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 24
Ki-100 Tony x 10
Ki-102a Randy x 5
Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 6
P-38J Lightning x 9
P-47D Thunderbolt x 10
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 6 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 5 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 1 destroyed
P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Japanese Ships
AK Uyo Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
1 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
5 x P-38J Lightning bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,54
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 8
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 20
Ki-100 Tony x 7
Ki-102a Randy x 4
Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 20
P-38J Lightning x 29
P-47D Thunderbolt x 30
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 5 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 21 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 9 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 5 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 1 damaged
P-38J Lightning: 3 destroyed
P-47D Thunderbolt: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged
Japanese Ships
AK Okitu Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire
AK Nagato Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
1 x P-38J Lightning bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x P-38J Lightning bombing at 2000 feet
9 x P-38J Lightning bombing at 2000 feet
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Sub attack at 65,45
Allied Ships
SS Threadfin
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ASW attack at 95,55
Japanese Ships
SS I-401, hits 14, heavy damage
Allied Ships
DD Black
DD Anthony
DD Ammen
DD Taussig
DD Massey
OK now this was a REAL shock 1:1 ok my troops were out of supply but even so 1:1 the convoy is unlading everything it can as fast as it can I have 50,000 tonnes of supply on the convoy and its all unloading STAT !!!
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Ground combat at Iwo Jima
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 119428 troops, 1025 guns, 616 vehicles, Assault Value =
2247
Defending force 56764 troops, 491 guns, 142 vehicles, Assault Value =
1246
Japanese max assault: 2436 - adjusted assault: 2790
Allied max defense: 1060 - adjusted defense: 1945
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
5611 casualties reported
Guns lost 112
Vehicles lost 5
Allied ground losses:
568 casualties reported
Guns lost 15
Vehicles lost 2
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Ground combat at Saigon
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 98091 troops, 641 guns, 94 vehicles, Assault Value =
2462
Defending force 49907 troops, 362 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 962
Japanese ground losses:
194 casualties reported
RE: SAC Strikes Back !!!
OK Preparation continues PZB feels I am rushing and he is right but once the A6M8 arrives IMO he will be producing 700+ Reppus a month I need a base in range before this happens.
The fact that the game ends in March 46 and the allies get no additional units means that the allies are forced to strike.
I need 1.8x by March 46 using no more than 2 A Bombs just to get a draw....
If I had the BPF, Tiger Force, 1st Army, 8th AF etc etc all arriving plus Bearcats, Sea Furies and the missing 4,000 Hellcats etc etc then I would be more willing to attack say the PI or Okinawa or Formosa before attacking the HI. But the simple fact is a long campagn hurts me as I dont get replacement pilots or ships and PZB is outproducing me and the game ends in March 46
To do it properly I would need to the end of 46 minimum.
Joe/Don its surely a bug that RN ships stop counting down when Karachi/Bombay fall even if I retake them now I won't get the BPF and I really do need it !!!!
2 or 3 Armoured Carriers able to take a few Kamis would be worth their weight in gold right now not to mention the CVE's to replace my excruciating losses in this class of ship !!!!.
What has really put me off retaking India is that I dont get the RN even if I succeed.
The fact that the game ends in March 46 and the allies get no additional units means that the allies are forced to strike.
I need 1.8x by March 46 using no more than 2 A Bombs just to get a draw....
If I had the BPF, Tiger Force, 1st Army, 8th AF etc etc all arriving plus Bearcats, Sea Furies and the missing 4,000 Hellcats etc etc then I would be more willing to attack say the PI or Okinawa or Formosa before attacking the HI. But the simple fact is a long campagn hurts me as I dont get replacement pilots or ships and PZB is outproducing me and the game ends in March 46
To do it properly I would need to the end of 46 minimum.
Joe/Don its surely a bug that RN ships stop counting down when Karachi/Bombay fall even if I retake them now I won't get the BPF and I really do need it !!!!
2 or 3 Armoured Carriers able to take a few Kamis would be worth their weight in gold right now not to mention the CVE's to replace my excruciating losses in this class of ship !!!!.
What has really put me off retaking India is that I dont get the RN even if I succeed.
RE: SAC Strikes Back !!!
OK guys don't know what to say or do reported 14 units in Toyoharra alone and 100,000 men plus more at Shikka.....
I sooo want to get ashore before the Reppu is fully operational by now PZB will have hist 1st squadrons coming on line with a LOT more to come.
I get 144 Hellcats I am willing to bet he is getting more Reppus than that now with a lot more to come after the A6M8 arrives.
I should and need to go deep now but 100,000 men behind lvl 9 forts will stop any assault cold even if I unload 500,000 men I am really getting to hate forts every sodding base I attack has them ever plan is stopped by them where the fuck do the Japanese get all these engineers.
I cannot even count on my airforce disrupting enmey ground forces because PZB will just divide all his divs and the my bombers wont disrupt em all.
This is just depressing late war is a total fuckup for the allies my production is not enough to keep up with losses its impossible.
I have not played badly in this game yes I have been to aggressive on occasion and tried to force the pace a little much but the sheer number of fortified bases with good dug in troops makes the whole thing impossible.
Going to sleep before I do much more
I sooo want to get ashore before the Reppu is fully operational by now PZB will have hist 1st squadrons coming on line with a LOT more to come.
I get 144 Hellcats I am willing to bet he is getting more Reppus than that now with a lot more to come after the A6M8 arrives.
I should and need to go deep now but 100,000 men behind lvl 9 forts will stop any assault cold even if I unload 500,000 men I am really getting to hate forts every sodding base I attack has them ever plan is stopped by them where the fuck do the Japanese get all these engineers.
I cannot even count on my airforce disrupting enmey ground forces because PZB will just divide all his divs and the my bombers wont disrupt em all.
This is just depressing late war is a total fuckup for the allies my production is not enough to keep up with losses its impossible.
I have not played badly in this game yes I have been to aggressive on occasion and tried to force the pace a little much but the sheer number of fortified bases with good dug in troops makes the whole thing impossible.
Going to sleep before I do much more
Depressed
I am open to ideas because frankly I am feeling pretty dejected.
Knowing that everywhere you go is going to be level 9 forts and the tha Japanese will be producing thousands of fighters better or as good as anything I have just now is relaly taking the piss.
100,000 men on day 1 will quickly become 200k or 300k because PZB will throw every transport he has to stop me
Knowing that everywhere you go is going to be level 9 forts and the tha Japanese will be producing thousands of fighters better or as good as anything I have just now is relaly taking the piss.
100,000 men on day 1 will quickly become 200k or 300k because PZB will throw every transport he has to stop me
RE: Optomistic!
What about Iwo or Bonin? Is Bonin also mountainous terrain? Still would be nice to get a fighter base close, or even Marianas again (should be easier with KB being more clipped than before, maybe...)
RE: A bomb
Heheh I hadnt thought about the A bomb one. I am just a little pissed off tonight this habit of dividing Divs to neutralise air to mud attacks is starting to piss me off and the sheer number of level 9 fortified bases depress me 20 Divs in attack aqnd 2 Divs in lvl 9 forts will stop me cold..
I am now convinced that 100,000 men behind lvl 9 forts and well supplied on either Iwo or Bonin is an impossible take I would need 6 months plus and its not possible
I am now convinced that 100,000 men behind lvl 9 forts and well supplied on either Iwo or Bonin is an impossible take I would need 6 months plus and its not possible
RE: A bomb
p.s. keep em coming at present I am a little lost as to what to do or where to go I am now considering gfoing west until I find a base with a lvl 1 - 4 AF and dumping 500,000 men onto it just to make sure I sodding take the place...
RE: A bomb
[font=arial]Below is a note I sent to PZB a few days ago just in passing we were having a joint whinge session he on Japanese me on allied [:D][:D][/font]
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[font=arial]I find it incredibly frustrating and have done since late 43 but its gotten a lot worse now NONE of the below is a complaint we play the game we have but you did ask !!!![/font]
[font=arial]My no 1 hate is the sheer quantity of bases with lvl 9 forts I am facing the maginot line every time I attack somewhere in almost all game – where did the Japanese get all these engineers,[/font]
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[font=arial]The only places I should be facing them are in Japan and the inner perimeter plus selected key bases not in every dammed place.[/font]
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[font=arial]This ends up leading to bad behaviour on my part which I don’t want to do.[/font]
[font=arial] [/font]
[font=arial]Other things I hate[/font]
[font=arial] [/font]
[font=arial]Aerial mining not being interceptable thousands of Japanese ships were sunk by air dropped mines but I feel contrained from using them because you cannot intercept them (albeit I don’t think a single B29 on air mining was ever sank during the war)[/font]
[font=arial]Unlimited supply of trained Jap pilots made ace by ground training in China[/font]
[font=arial]No allied control of production it should be both or neither I am willing to bet that in one month you will produce 700+ Reppus a month and probably 150+ per month now it has to be either or both as it stands this and research may make the game unplayable[/font]
[font=arial]Subs being a total waste of time[/font]
[font=arial]Night air bombing effectiveness (don’t make me larff !!!)[/font]
[font=arial]Uber CAP it goes both ways and I hate it.[/font]
[font=arial]Splitting Ground units to stop air attack being effective (but with the in game targeting mechanim for ground attacks its bullshit so its level 9 forts and split ground units so 1 Divison can hold of 4 or 5 in assault even with total air superiority)[/font]
[font=arial]The reinforcement of Iwo REALLY pissed me off I landed basically a reinforced Corps of 3 Divs on Iwo which was not unreasonable)[/font]
[font=arial]thousands of transport aircraft landing at an AF that was totally capped by allied interceptors[/font]
[font=arial]Massive unescorted convoys dumping reinforcement troops I could sink some but not all[/font] [/ol][/ol]
[font=arial]9. Not enough allied pilots[/font]
[font=arial]10. Kamikazes not working so you have to use HL Kamis[/font]
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[font=arial]There are more but it’s the lvl 9 forts that really piss me off !!![/font]
[font=arial] [/font]
[font=arial]I just don’t think they thought about the late war or the implications of Japanese control of production/research[/font]
[font=arial] [/font]
[font=arial][/font]
[font=arial]I find it incredibly frustrating and have done since late 43 but its gotten a lot worse now NONE of the below is a complaint we play the game we have but you did ask !!!![/font]
[font=arial]My no 1 hate is the sheer quantity of bases with lvl 9 forts I am facing the maginot line every time I attack somewhere in almost all game – where did the Japanese get all these engineers,[/font]
[font=arial] [/font]
[font=arial]The only places I should be facing them are in Japan and the inner perimeter plus selected key bases not in every dammed place.[/font]
[font=arial] [/font]
[font=arial]This ends up leading to bad behaviour on my part which I don’t want to do.[/font]
[font=arial] [/font]
[font=arial]Other things I hate[/font]
[font=arial] [/font]
[font=arial]Aerial mining not being interceptable thousands of Japanese ships were sunk by air dropped mines but I feel contrained from using them because you cannot intercept them (albeit I don’t think a single B29 on air mining was ever sank during the war)[/font]
[font=arial]Unlimited supply of trained Jap pilots made ace by ground training in China[/font]
[font=arial]No allied control of production it should be both or neither I am willing to bet that in one month you will produce 700+ Reppus a month and probably 150+ per month now it has to be either or both as it stands this and research may make the game unplayable[/font]
[font=arial]Subs being a total waste of time[/font]
[font=arial]Night air bombing effectiveness (don’t make me larff !!!)[/font]
[font=arial]Uber CAP it goes both ways and I hate it.[/font]
[font=arial]Splitting Ground units to stop air attack being effective (but with the in game targeting mechanim for ground attacks its bullshit so its level 9 forts and split ground units so 1 Divison can hold of 4 or 5 in assault even with total air superiority)[/font]
[font=arial]The reinforcement of Iwo REALLY pissed me off I landed basically a reinforced Corps of 3 Divs on Iwo which was not unreasonable)[/font]
[font=arial]thousands of transport aircraft landing at an AF that was totally capped by allied interceptors[/font]
[font=arial]Massive unescorted convoys dumping reinforcement troops I could sink some but not all[/font] [/ol][/ol]
[font=arial]9. Not enough allied pilots[/font]
[font=arial]10. Kamikazes not working so you have to use HL Kamis[/font]
[font=arial] [/font]
[font=arial]There are more but it’s the lvl 9 forts that really piss me off !!![/font]
[font=arial] [/font]
[font=arial]I just don’t think they thought about the late war or the implications of Japanese control of production/research[/font]
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RE: A bomb
Classic case of how one players style, or the one game can lead to some funny statements
Subs are almost useless.[:D][:D][:D][:D]
Go ask Tabpub how to really use SS, hes going to win the game against me in mid 44 almost totally on their own -I have hardly a convoy left, see how many planes you can build as japan with out oil or resources.
Japs DID build size 9 forts every bloody where -that was their speciality.
At buna several 100 troops with cocunut tree bunkers held back an entire division for months.
You cannot crush dug in japanese troops with numbers.
You grind em down
You blockade em
You starve em
you starve em some more.
If hes flying in transport reinforcements then why?
cause you left operational fields in range, for them to fly from
You have carriers groups that can sail anywhere, but do not close down the general target area first.
Too far, too fast, yes, you took on a game of impossible odds, but i still think you went about it wrong.
Too late now. Sometimes you have to realise that your opponent may just have the best of it, and in this games case, its not your fualt, you just had far too much to make up.
Personally, this game may have reached a point where a peace accord is called before this particular battle sours you both off WITP forever.
Just my 2 cents.
Subs are almost useless.[:D][:D][:D][:D]
Go ask Tabpub how to really use SS, hes going to win the game against me in mid 44 almost totally on their own -I have hardly a convoy left, see how many planes you can build as japan with out oil or resources.
Japs DID build size 9 forts every bloody where -that was their speciality.
At buna several 100 troops with cocunut tree bunkers held back an entire division for months.
You cannot crush dug in japanese troops with numbers.
You grind em down
You blockade em
You starve em
you starve em some more.
If hes flying in transport reinforcements then why?
cause you left operational fields in range, for them to fly from
You have carriers groups that can sail anywhere, but do not close down the general target area first.
Too far, too fast, yes, you took on a game of impossible odds, but i still think you went about it wrong.
Too late now. Sometimes you have to realise that your opponent may just have the best of it, and in this games case, its not your fualt, you just had far too much to make up.
Personally, this game may have reached a point where a peace accord is called before this particular battle sours you both off WITP forever.
Just my 2 cents.
big seas, fast ships, life tastes better with salt
RE: A bomb
Peace....Peace never not until I have crushed the japanese and the Emperor has apologised for Pearl Harbour....
Peace ......pffft
Morale is back !!!
I guess I just cannot use subs then Herbie I lost 6 subs yesterday to Pauk in one day when he turned his air groups on air ASW.
PZB's HK Groups sink multiple subs all the time.
To be honest I think bugs in late war on both sides would have ended the game but for the fact that we are both bloody minded and having gotten this far may as well discover ALL the bugs by playing it out to the end.
I would be interested to hear where I went wrong there are a number of tactical ops that went wrong but strategically I would be interested to discover what I should have done instead.
Perhaps you are correct about forts Herbie but in that case I think lvl 9 forts are to powerfull.
Malaya was captured primarily to cut off resources as my subs had failed.
Between dedicated HK Groups and Air Interdiction the Japanese are just to dammed good at ASW IMO anyone who can operate it gets a pat on the back from me.
Anyway its clear to me that Toyoharra is a bust
I need to rethink PZB has just told me that he will be recieving 900 Reppus a month ...... 900 !!!!
Having one side with strategic control and the other having only tactical control is not reasonable - now this game makes it worse and is definitly an outlier but none the less its wrong and needs to be changed either give the allies some control over on map production in the way the Japanese do or ditch it for both sides.....
Peace ......pffft
Morale is back !!!
I guess I just cannot use subs then Herbie I lost 6 subs yesterday to Pauk in one day when he turned his air groups on air ASW.
PZB's HK Groups sink multiple subs all the time.
To be honest I think bugs in late war on both sides would have ended the game but for the fact that we are both bloody minded and having gotten this far may as well discover ALL the bugs by playing it out to the end.
I would be interested to hear where I went wrong there are a number of tactical ops that went wrong but strategically I would be interested to discover what I should have done instead.
Perhaps you are correct about forts Herbie but in that case I think lvl 9 forts are to powerfull.
Malaya was captured primarily to cut off resources as my subs had failed.
Between dedicated HK Groups and Air Interdiction the Japanese are just to dammed good at ASW IMO anyone who can operate it gets a pat on the back from me.
Anyway its clear to me that Toyoharra is a bust
I need to rethink PZB has just told me that he will be recieving 900 Reppus a month ...... 900 !!!!
Having one side with strategic control and the other having only tactical control is not reasonable - now this game makes it worse and is definitly an outlier but none the less its wrong and needs to be changed either give the allies some control over on map production in the way the Japanese do or ditch it for both sides.....
RE: A bomb
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Do you believe anything he is telling you ?
Reppu's, perhaps.
But maybe the numbers are a bit on the high side
I need to rethink PZB has just told me that he will be recieving 900 Reppus a month ...... 900 !!!!
Do you believe anything he is telling you ?
Reppu's, perhaps.
But maybe the numbers are a bit on the high side
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