GD1938 Game 6

[ironduke1955]

The Free French were equipped by the allies and supplied by the allies. There is no Vichy so in effect you have only Free French. I feel the Coalition cost for the British is a bit harsh no one fought harder than the poles and French and other exiles.

[ernieschwitz]

ORIGINAL: Twotribes
Unless you changed it it costs 1000 to research the economic one and only raises the production to 80 percent.

My bad, my memory is not that good all the time. I think we might change the cost of the economic one, in the future, not sure yet.

[ernieschwitz]

ORIGINAL: Twotribes
Ohh ya I probably should put this in the mod area but did you know that Italy gets the level III generic tank and the specific Italian tank? Can't remember if it gets 2 for IV either.

I´ll look into it. The British also have Night Bomber I available for building despite they have whitley night bombers that are night bomber IIs....

[ernieschwitz]

ORIGINAL: ironduke1955

The Free French were equipped by the allies and supplied by the allies. There is no Vichy so in effect you have only Free French. I feel the Coalition cost for the British is a bit harsh no one fought harder than the poles and French and other exiles.

200 is not that great a cost, actually, i think. But what would you suggest it should cost (for everyone)

[ironduke1955]

If the comparison is say between the Rumanians or Bulgarians everyone is aware that compared with the Germans they were not equal in performance.
But as I said it was not the case with exiles who were more motivated not less what did a axis minor power soldier dream of doing, it was of going back home.
For the exiles there was no home and their dream was of taking their home back. So a conquered annexed nation is not the same as a unwilling satellite nation.

[Twotribes]

ORIGINAL: ernieschwitz

ORIGINAL: Twotribes
Unless you changed it it costs 1000 to research the economic one and only raises the production to 80 percent.

My bad, my memory is not that good all the time. I think we might change the cost of the economic one, in the future, not sure yet.

If one has the time to save for it 1000 is ok, problem is no one has the time in full scale war to save for that high a cost. Might want to raise the level it gives though at 1000 90 or 100 percent would be a better buy. if you lower the cost leave it at 80 percent, my personal opinion anyway.

[ernieschwitz]

ORIGINAL: ironduke1955

If the comparison is say between the Rumanians or Bulgarians everyone is aware that compared with the Germans they were not equal in performance.
But as I said it was not the case with exiles who were more motivated not less what did a axis minor power soldier dream of doing, it was of going back home.
For the exiles there was no home and their dream was of taking their home back. So a conquered annexed nation is not the same as a unwilling satellite nation.

Well, I try to make every option as general as possible. That too goes for researches. I try to make them be equal for all, and as general as can be. ... but maybe I can make the costs lower for Britain, France, United States and China (the countries that cannot DoW on minors). ... would that sound fair?

[ernieschwitz]

ORIGINAL: Twotribes

ORIGINAL: ernieschwitz

ORIGINAL: Twotribes
Unless you changed it it costs 1000 to research the economic one and only raises the production to 80 percent.

My bad, my memory is not that good all the time. I think we might change the cost of the economic one, in the future, not sure yet.

If one has the time to save for it 1000 is ok, problem is no one has the time in full scale war to save for that high a cost. Might want to raise the level it gives though at 1000 90 or 100 percent would be a better buy. if you lower the cost leave it at 80 percent, my personal opinion anyway.

To be honest, that special research nearly went away at one point. Bombur had a good argument that there is no such thing as gentle occupation (which it was first called). And currently there is no way to distinguish between a taken-over country by war, by coup, by diplomatic take-over or by being the defender. Thus the research has to be relative expensive, for the Germans for instance, not to choose it, and use frenchmen as their own troops, and friendly occupied territory.... (did i make sense there... I hope i did)....

[ironduke1955]

You can have performance of troops linked to National Morale or National Military Training programs or adopted Military Doctrines or all of these. As you say a more general option will serve as well coalition I guess could represent the actual cost of re-equipping and I guess re-training the soldiers of defeated powers or minor powers to the standard of your military.

[Twotribes]

Why would the allies and China have it easier in a generic game about WW2? Germany already has problems with the war starting in 38. And the US almost always joins actively no later then mid 1940.

[ironduke1955]

Soviet Union now allied with China border corrections completed.

The Soviet Union is making efforts to modernize its forces on its western border.

[Twotribes]

I can count, you have 5 armor factories, your forces are modernized already. LOL. You can hide them from me but I know you plan to attack me.

[ironduke1955]

LOL clearly you can see not one modern tank or plane on the border

[Twotribes]

Just because you are holding them back doesn't mean they aren't there.

[cpdeyoung]

GOWN reports that the Franco-British coalition had some success on multiple fronts, but the situation in France remains discouraging. We abandoned the position in Brest as we could not hold against the German concentration The troops were withdrawn without loss, and are refitting in Southern England. The Franco-British in North Africa continued to push East, and were hampered by very bad terrain for AFVs. The Royal and Republican navies helped and some progress was made. Strategic bombers hit Italian cities again.

The United States continued to prepare for war, making up for a very weak position after demobilization following the Great War. We think the USA has potential, and the people are joining in the production wholeheartedly. Chinese-Americans are of mixed feelings. They are proud to see China taking a role in the Great Powers, but dismayed that the role seems so focused on opposition to the West. Somehow Chinese annexation of sovereign countries is seen as some weird kind of anti-Imperialism when in fact it is pure Empire building. America is not an imperialist nation, and Franco-British sentiment is strongly in favor of self-governing commonwealth affiliates. None of the nations in coalition with GOWN will be ruled from Washington, or London, nor Paris once recovered. There is probably no way China will declare its empire, but, nonetheless is is an empire. China has gone from defense against Japanese aggression to full aggrandizing expansion, and GOWN, at war with the other aggrandizing Powers, is sad to see China in their camp.

[ironduke1955]

All quiet on the Western Front. Special mobile cinemas have been showing Sergei Bondarchucks epic War and Peace.

The Soviet Union is saddened by the imminent demise of the home of the Peoples Revolution France.

[cpdeyoung]

GOWN announces preparations are in place for the re-establishment of a French Republic. Details will be released as developments progress. The French people are fighting now to restore their home to French government.

Franco-British command announces The fall of Tangiers and Cadiz as the Iberian campaign develops. Troops flowed west from Gibraltar to Portugal, hampered by major traffic jams, as troops from North Africa headed into Europe. Italians fled and Spanish deserted as the massive Char B1-bis struck. Royal and Republican naval and air forces aided the land forces in a string of battles. Heavy bombers striking the Italian shipyard were unpleasantly surprised to find the Regia Marina there. The flak brought down too many brave aircrew. The airmen reported 2 battleships, 21 cruisers, and 17 destroyers in port. Strategic bombers attacked the production of two cities, one in Spain and one in Italy. Attacks in western France were costly to our airmen, but we dis some damage to ground troops. The BF-109F is superior to the Spitfire V evidently.

The Royal and Republican navies report a Chinese fleet of transports escorted by some destroyers and submarines in Indonesian waters. When inquiries were made about their destination they replied they were going to build railroads in Peru and Argentina. GOWN analysts discount this explanation.

The announcement of full self rule and Commonwealth status for India was greeted with joy across the sub-continent. India has been a bastion of war production for the Allies, and as a new nation she comes into the world as a major power.

Brazil has signed a mutual defense pact with the Alliance of the Americas, and engineers from the USA have arrived to start building a road and railway network that will facilitate Brazil's economic and military progress.

The United States has refrained from building defense factories while the nation is still at peace. President Roosevelt said that while we are at peace we will maintain a slow and steady buildup from our understrength position. If war come we will rapidly ramp up production and engage our enemies. The USA is contemplating stability building diplomatic steps.

Here is a map showing the current state in the Iberian Peninsula.

[Twotribes]

Very little of France remains as the Germans advance into Spain to aid the Italians.

Italy suffers on.

Japan continues to build ground forces. And is reorganizing her armies in Korea.

[ironduke1955]

The Soviets look forward to the New Year with hope for the peace on earth that all civilized nations crave.

The fighting spirit of the Western Allies does not seem to be crushed. Small victories in other parts of the world have inspired the hope that ultimate victory will come.

A alarming event in Asia Minor the Turkish have converted to the Axis cause a decision it is hoped they will not regret.

The Soviets have increased their force levels on the Western Border due to increased Axis troop build ups.

[cpdeyoung]

GOWN wishes a Happy New Year to the peoples of the Soviet Union, and a Happy (Western) New Year to our friends in China.

Indeed the spirit of the West is not crushed, and the campaign in the Iberian Peninsula goes pretty well. We see German troops behind the Italian lines, moving from France, where the last of our troops were withdrawn recently. As we left our thoughts were of regaining all this territory, and raising the Tricolor again over French cities.

In naval action we took some losses in killing a wolf pack of modern U-Boats. The battle favored us.

Gerd von Rundstadt's headquarters was visited by allied air might, and about half the staff were casualties.

Turkey has chosen the wrong side twice, and the Axis might find that their focus might be spread a tad thin. There is always the possibility they might have to face another enemy, and another front, in 1941.