Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls
Moderators: wdolson, MOD_War-in-the-Pacific-Admirals-Edition
RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls
March 23rd, 1942
Promising
Ground combat at Suva (132,160)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 18212 troops, 190 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 537
Defending force 9319 troops, 88 guns, 87 vehicles, Assault Value = 260
Japanese adjusted assault: 501
Allied adjusted defense: 149
Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 3)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
810 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 82 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Allied ground losses:
630 casualties reported
Squads: 24 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 9 (3 destroyed, 6 disabled)
North China
Attrition
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 32894 troops, 394 guns, 496 vehicles, Assault Value = 1103
Defending force 30497 troops, 143 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 726
Japanese adjusted assault: 560
Allied adjusted defense: 415
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
642 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Vehicles lost 60 (6 destroyed, 54 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
2064 casualties reported
Squads: 47 destroyed, 228 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 31 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 28 (2 destroyed, 26 disabled)
Assaulting units:
5th Armored Car Co
15th Tank Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
110th Division
13th Tank Regiment
26th Division
9th Tank Regiment
8th Ind Engineer Regiment
5th Tank Regiment
10th Tank Regiment
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Mortar Battalion
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Defending units:
48th Chinese Corps
51st Chinese Corps
90th Chinese Corps
69th Chinese Corps
38th Chinese Corps
19th Chinese Corps
83rd Chinese Corps
34th Separate Brigade
6th Group Army
23rd Chinese Corps
1st War Area
21st Chinese Base Force
Aleutians
Meat Grinder
Ground combat at Dutch Harbor (171,50)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 15450 troops, 216 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 288
Defending force 7737 troops, 113 guns, 39 vehicles, Assault Value = 192
Japanese adjusted assault: 134
Allied adjusted defense: 349
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1792 casualties reported
Squads: 92 destroyed, 24 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 32 (8 destroyed, 24 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
234 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Assaulting units:
Guards Mixed Brigade
2nd China Assault Division
64th Naval Guard Unit
1st Fleet
5th JNAF AF Unit
92nd Base Force
37th JNAF AF Unit
Defending units:
37th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
201st(Sep) Infantry Regiment
151st Cmbt Engineer Battalion
Dutch Harbor USN Base Force
2/250th Coastal Artillery Battalion
Promising
Ground combat at Suva (132,160)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 18212 troops, 190 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 537
Defending force 9319 troops, 88 guns, 87 vehicles, Assault Value = 260
Japanese adjusted assault: 501
Allied adjusted defense: 149
Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 3)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
810 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 82 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Allied ground losses:
630 casualties reported
Squads: 24 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 9 (3 destroyed, 6 disabled)
North China
Attrition
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 32894 troops, 394 guns, 496 vehicles, Assault Value = 1103
Defending force 30497 troops, 143 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 726
Japanese adjusted assault: 560
Allied adjusted defense: 415
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
642 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Vehicles lost 60 (6 destroyed, 54 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
2064 casualties reported
Squads: 47 destroyed, 228 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 31 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 28 (2 destroyed, 26 disabled)
Assaulting units:
5th Armored Car Co
15th Tank Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
110th Division
13th Tank Regiment
26th Division
9th Tank Regiment
8th Ind Engineer Regiment
5th Tank Regiment
10th Tank Regiment
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Mortar Battalion
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Defending units:
48th Chinese Corps
51st Chinese Corps
90th Chinese Corps
69th Chinese Corps
38th Chinese Corps
19th Chinese Corps
83rd Chinese Corps
34th Separate Brigade
6th Group Army
23rd Chinese Corps
1st War Area
21st Chinese Base Force
Aleutians
Meat Grinder
Ground combat at Dutch Harbor (171,50)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 15450 troops, 216 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 288
Defending force 7737 troops, 113 guns, 39 vehicles, Assault Value = 192
Japanese adjusted assault: 134
Allied adjusted defense: 349
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1792 casualties reported
Squads: 92 destroyed, 24 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 32 (8 destroyed, 24 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
234 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Assaulting units:
Guards Mixed Brigade
2nd China Assault Division
64th Naval Guard Unit
1st Fleet
5th JNAF AF Unit
92nd Base Force
37th JNAF AF Unit
Defending units:
37th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
201st(Sep) Infantry Regiment
151st Cmbt Engineer Battalion
Dutch Harbor USN Base Force
2/250th Coastal Artillery Battalion
RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls
March 24th, 1942
Yamamoto paces frantically behind his desk. Suddenly his door bursts open.
"Urgent Message from Dutch Harbor". Before the message can be delivered and without looking at the messenger, Yamamoto's replies, "Tell them to attack".
A moment later, the door bursts open again.
"Urgent message from Suva."
"Tell them to attack."
Again, another messenger, "Urgent Message from Wenchow"
"Tell them to attack."
"Your wife is in the hospital"
"Tell her to attack"
"Your mechanic is on the phone"
"Hey, how's it going" as he sits at his desk, puts his feet up, relaxes into the chair and smiles.
(What movie did I steal this from)
Yamamoto paces frantically behind his desk. Suddenly his door bursts open.
"Urgent Message from Dutch Harbor". Before the message can be delivered and without looking at the messenger, Yamamoto's replies, "Tell them to attack".
A moment later, the door bursts open again.
"Urgent message from Suva."
"Tell them to attack."
Again, another messenger, "Urgent Message from Wenchow"
"Tell them to attack."
"Your wife is in the hospital"
"Tell her to attack"
"Your mechanic is on the phone"
"Hey, how's it going" as he sits at his desk, puts his feet up, relaxes into the chair and smiles.
(What movie did I steal this from)
RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls
March 26th, 1942
SoPac
Yay
Ground combat at Suva (132,160)
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 17472 troops, 190 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 460
Defending force 8828 troops, 82 guns, 87 vehicles, Assault Value = 218
Japanese adjusted assault: 630
Allied adjusted defense: 131
Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Suva !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
1168 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 85 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 21 (1 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
9476 casualties reported
Squads: 338 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 409 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 69 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 98 (98 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 102 (102 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 8
Assaulting units:
1st Maizuru Assault Division
Karafuto Mixed Brigade
6th Ind.Infantry Brigade
53rd Naval Guard Unit
Defending units:
8th NZ Brigade
1st Fiji Battalion
2nd Fiji Battalion
14th NZ Brigade
Suva Naval Base Force
1st RNZAF Base Sqdn
35th RNZA Bty
37th RNZA Bty
China
Wow
Ground combat at Changsha (82,52)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 51300 troops, 243 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1766
Defending force 13084 troops, 102 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 416
Allied adjusted assault: 1256
Japanese adjusted defense: 1641
Allied assault odds: 1 to 2
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
663 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 34 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Allied ground losses:
2005 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 173 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 19 disabled
Assaulting units:
44th Chinese Corps
7th Chinese Corps
94th Chinese Corps
84th Chinese Corps
73rd Chinese Corps
87th Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
5th Construction Regiment
19th Group Army
9th War Area
29th Group Army
21st Group Army
20th Group Army
17th Chinese Base Force
Defending units:
13th Division
SoPac
Yay
Ground combat at Suva (132,160)
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 17472 troops, 190 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 460
Defending force 8828 troops, 82 guns, 87 vehicles, Assault Value = 218
Japanese adjusted assault: 630
Allied adjusted defense: 131
Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Suva !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
1168 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 85 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 21 (1 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
9476 casualties reported
Squads: 338 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 409 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 69 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 98 (98 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 102 (102 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 8
Assaulting units:
1st Maizuru Assault Division
Karafuto Mixed Brigade
6th Ind.Infantry Brigade
53rd Naval Guard Unit
Defending units:
8th NZ Brigade
1st Fiji Battalion
2nd Fiji Battalion
14th NZ Brigade
Suva Naval Base Force
1st RNZAF Base Sqdn
35th RNZA Bty
37th RNZA Bty
China
Wow
Ground combat at Changsha (82,52)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 51300 troops, 243 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1766
Defending force 13084 troops, 102 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 416
Allied adjusted assault: 1256
Japanese adjusted defense: 1641
Allied assault odds: 1 to 2
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
663 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 34 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Allied ground losses:
2005 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 173 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 19 disabled
Assaulting units:
44th Chinese Corps
7th Chinese Corps
94th Chinese Corps
84th Chinese Corps
73rd Chinese Corps
87th Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
5th Construction Regiment
19th Group Army
9th War Area
29th Group Army
21st Group Army
20th Group Army
17th Chinese Base Force
Defending units:
13th Division
RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls
Now some questions about China.
They get 500 replacement squads a month. These squads come in anywhere or originate in Changsha/Chungking? I read somewhere about Japan needs to kill 350 squads a month. Why 150 less than 500? Not clear on why 350 is a magic number or what that person incorrect?
I'm going to assume that you need supply to pull these squads in. How fast do they get them?
Looking back over this month, I would bet at least 1000-1500 squads destroyed (minimum) and 2-3 times that number in disruptions.
They get 500 replacement squads a month. These squads come in anywhere or originate in Changsha/Chungking? I read somewhere about Japan needs to kill 350 squads a month. Why 150 less than 500? Not clear on why 350 is a magic number or what that person incorrect?
I'm going to assume that you need supply to pull these squads in. How fast do they get them?
Looking back over this month, I would bet at least 1000-1500 squads destroyed (minimum) and 2-3 times that number in disruptions.
RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls
March 26th, 1942
Northern China
More Attrition
He's placing small units in the mountains east of Lanchow to Tienshui. I'm running out with Divs and smacking them around.
Ground combat at 80,35 (near Lanchow)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 10939 troops, 98 guns, 36 vehicles, Assault Value = 230
Defending force 9293 troops, 65 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 269
Japanese adjusted assault: 231
Allied adjusted defense: 58
Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)
Japanese ground losses:
85 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Allied ground losses:
3151 casualties reported
Squads: 134 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 91 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 8 (8 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2
And the main thrust
Ground combat at 80,39 (near Tienshui)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 32406 troops, 394 guns, 478 vehicles, Assault Value = 1060
Defending force 28148 troops, 129 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 523
Japanese adjusted assault: 518
Allied adjusted defense: 877
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
526 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 19 disabled
Vehicles lost 55 (3 destroyed, 52 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
1001 casualties reported
Squads: 117 destroyed, 74 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 67 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Assaulting units:
13th Tank Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
8th Ind Engineer Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
110th Division
15th Tank Regiment
5th Tank Regiment
26th Division
10th Tank Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
5th Armored Car Co
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Mortar Battalion
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Defending units:
83rd Chinese Corps
51st Chinese Corps
69th Chinese Corps
38th Chinese Corps
48th Chinese Corps
90th Chinese Corps
19th Chinese Corps
34th Separate Brigade
6th Group Army
1st War Area
23rd Chinese Corps
21st Chinese Base Force
Northern China
More Attrition
He's placing small units in the mountains east of Lanchow to Tienshui. I'm running out with Divs and smacking them around.
Ground combat at 80,35 (near Lanchow)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 10939 troops, 98 guns, 36 vehicles, Assault Value = 230
Defending force 9293 troops, 65 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 269
Japanese adjusted assault: 231
Allied adjusted defense: 58
Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)
Japanese ground losses:
85 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Allied ground losses:
3151 casualties reported
Squads: 134 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 91 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 8 (8 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2
And the main thrust
Ground combat at 80,39 (near Tienshui)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 32406 troops, 394 guns, 478 vehicles, Assault Value = 1060
Defending force 28148 troops, 129 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 523
Japanese adjusted assault: 518
Allied adjusted defense: 877
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
526 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 19 disabled
Vehicles lost 55 (3 destroyed, 52 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
1001 casualties reported
Squads: 117 destroyed, 74 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 67 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Assaulting units:
13th Tank Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
8th Ind Engineer Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
110th Division
15th Tank Regiment
5th Tank Regiment
26th Division
10th Tank Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
5th Armored Car Co
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Mortar Battalion
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Defending units:
83rd Chinese Corps
51st Chinese Corps
69th Chinese Corps
38th Chinese Corps
48th Chinese Corps
90th Chinese Corps
19th Chinese Corps
34th Separate Brigade
6th Group Army
1st War Area
23rd Chinese Corps
21st Chinese Base Force
RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls
He can't be taking these types of losses or can he?
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RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls
Not clear on why 350 is a magic number or what that person incorrect?
This IS the monthly replacement rate!!
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RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls
Ahhh. So I'm incorrect. That figures.[:)]
RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls
March 29th, 1942
Luzon
Slowly
Ground combat at Manila (79,77)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 67702 troops, 703 guns, 343 vehicles, Assault Value = 1709
Defending force 57080 troops, 396 guns, 148 vehicles, Assault Value = 1288
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1
Japanese adjusted assault: 993
Allied adjusted defense: 805
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
3678 casualties reported
Squads: 30 destroyed, 276 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 37 disabled
Guns lost 33 (1 destroyed, 32 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
1404 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 150 disabled
Non Combat: 52 destroyed, 41 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Guns lost 27 (8 destroyed, 19 disabled)
Vehicles lost 13 (3 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Assaulting units:
4th Division
65th Brigade
48th Division
5th Division
16th Division
21st Ind Engineer Regiment
2nd Division
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
14th Army
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
Defending units:
91st PA Infantry Division
192nd Tank Battalion
1st PA Infantry Division
1st Constabulary Regiment
51st PA Infantry Division
194th Tank Battalion
4th Marine Regiment
57th PS Infantry Regiment
41st PA Infantry Division
21st PA Infantry Division
71st PA Infantry Division
11th PA Infantry Division
31st PA Infantry Division
26th PS Cavalry Regiment
2nd Constabulary Regiment
4th PAAC Avn Sup
II Corps
86th PS Field Artillery Battalion
US Forces Far East
1st USMC AA Battalion
200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment
Clark Field AAF Base Force
11th PAAC Avn Sup
24th PS FA Regiment
!/23rd PS FA Battalion
Cavite USN Base Force
Nichols Field AAF Base Force
27th Avn Sup
Far East USAAF
Asiatic Fleet
35th Avn Sup
88th PS Field Artillery Regiment
24th Avn Sup
I/Prov'nl SPM Grp
Northern China
Atritting
Ground combat at 80,39 (near Tienshui)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 31522 troops, 394 guns, 469 vehicles, Assault Value = 1042
Defending force 23762 troops, 127 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 397
Japanese adjusted assault: 443
Allied adjusted defense: 436
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
156 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Allied ground losses:
2421 casualties reported
Squads: 99 destroyed, 56 disabled
Non Combat: 66 destroyed, 26 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 27 (16 destroyed, 11 disabled)
Units destroyed 2
Assaulting units:
9th Tank Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
15th Tank Regiment
5th Tank Regiment
13th Tank Regiment
26th Division
110th Division
10th Tank Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
1st Mortar Battalion
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
5th Armored Car Co
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
8th Ind Engineer Regiment
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Defending units:
69th Chinese Corps
48th Chinese Corps
90th Chinese Corps
19th Chinese Corps
38th Chinese Corps
83rd Chinese Corps
34th Separate Brigade
1st War Area
51st Chinese Corps
23rd Chinese Corps
6th Group Army
Central China
Fumbling
Ground combat at Changsha (82,52)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 82424 troops, 656 guns, 64 vehicles, Assault Value = 2513
Defending force 62519 troops, 286 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1623
Japanese adjusted assault: 3320
Allied adjusted defense: 4929
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 5)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
7675 casualties reported
Squads: 32 destroyed, 324 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 63 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 62 disabled
Guns lost 65 (2 destroyed, 63 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
2587 casualties reported
Squads: 30 destroyed, 219 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 75 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled
Guns lost 19 (1 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Assaulting units:
34th Division
3rd Division
40th Division
39th Division
13th Division
9th Division
11th Army
Defending units:
7th Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
44th Chinese Corps
73rd Chinese Corps
94th Chinese Corps
84th Chinese Corps
87th Chinese Corps
5th Construction Regiment
9th War Area
21st Group Army
19th Group Army
20th Group Army
29th Group Army
17th Chinese Base Force
Luzon
Slowly
Ground combat at Manila (79,77)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 67702 troops, 703 guns, 343 vehicles, Assault Value = 1709
Defending force 57080 troops, 396 guns, 148 vehicles, Assault Value = 1288
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1
Japanese adjusted assault: 993
Allied adjusted defense: 805
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
3678 casualties reported
Squads: 30 destroyed, 276 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 37 disabled
Guns lost 33 (1 destroyed, 32 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
1404 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 150 disabled
Non Combat: 52 destroyed, 41 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Guns lost 27 (8 destroyed, 19 disabled)
Vehicles lost 13 (3 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Assaulting units:
4th Division
65th Brigade
48th Division
5th Division
16th Division
21st Ind Engineer Regiment
2nd Division
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
14th Army
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
Defending units:
91st PA Infantry Division
192nd Tank Battalion
1st PA Infantry Division
1st Constabulary Regiment
51st PA Infantry Division
194th Tank Battalion
4th Marine Regiment
57th PS Infantry Regiment
41st PA Infantry Division
21st PA Infantry Division
71st PA Infantry Division
11th PA Infantry Division
31st PA Infantry Division
26th PS Cavalry Regiment
2nd Constabulary Regiment
4th PAAC Avn Sup
II Corps
86th PS Field Artillery Battalion
US Forces Far East
1st USMC AA Battalion
200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment
Clark Field AAF Base Force
11th PAAC Avn Sup
24th PS FA Regiment
!/23rd PS FA Battalion
Cavite USN Base Force
Nichols Field AAF Base Force
27th Avn Sup
Far East USAAF
Asiatic Fleet
35th Avn Sup
88th PS Field Artillery Regiment
24th Avn Sup
I/Prov'nl SPM Grp
Northern China
Atritting
Ground combat at 80,39 (near Tienshui)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 31522 troops, 394 guns, 469 vehicles, Assault Value = 1042
Defending force 23762 troops, 127 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 397
Japanese adjusted assault: 443
Allied adjusted defense: 436
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
156 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Allied ground losses:
2421 casualties reported
Squads: 99 destroyed, 56 disabled
Non Combat: 66 destroyed, 26 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 27 (16 destroyed, 11 disabled)
Units destroyed 2
Assaulting units:
9th Tank Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
15th Tank Regiment
5th Tank Regiment
13th Tank Regiment
26th Division
110th Division
10th Tank Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
1st Mortar Battalion
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
5th Armored Car Co
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
8th Ind Engineer Regiment
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Defending units:
69th Chinese Corps
48th Chinese Corps
90th Chinese Corps
19th Chinese Corps
38th Chinese Corps
83rd Chinese Corps
34th Separate Brigade
1st War Area
51st Chinese Corps
23rd Chinese Corps
6th Group Army
Central China
Fumbling
Ground combat at Changsha (82,52)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 82424 troops, 656 guns, 64 vehicles, Assault Value = 2513
Defending force 62519 troops, 286 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1623
Japanese adjusted assault: 3320
Allied adjusted defense: 4929
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 5)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
7675 casualties reported
Squads: 32 destroyed, 324 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 63 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 62 disabled
Guns lost 65 (2 destroyed, 63 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
2587 casualties reported
Squads: 30 destroyed, 219 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 75 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled
Guns lost 19 (1 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Assaulting units:
34th Division
3rd Division
40th Division
39th Division
13th Division
9th Division
11th Army
Defending units:
7th Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
44th Chinese Corps
73rd Chinese Corps
94th Chinese Corps
84th Chinese Corps
87th Chinese Corps
5th Construction Regiment
9th War Area
21st Group Army
19th Group Army
20th Group Army
29th Group Army
17th Chinese Base Force
RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls
March 29th, 1942
In a tent, just outside of Changsha, the entire general staff of the 11th Army is sitting around table with a map of Asia and a number of cardboard pieces on the map, some stacked to incredibly high levels.
"Stop bumping the table", says the general of the 39th Division, "that's the 3rd time I have to build this stack again".
The general of the 9th Army says, "How much are supply costs for attacking?" When no one answers, he sighs, "where are the rules again? Any pizza left?"
"My CW subs are searching for you around Truk," the general of the 40th Division pipes in, as most are having conversations at the same time. He's wearing a US flag pin on his suit.
Suddenly, messengers burst in the room. "The attack has begun on Changsha."
The generals look at the messengers a bit slowly. "In a minute, we're almost done with the turn. I've still got to roll."
The messengers leave the tent dumbfounded. "What?"
All of the chief staff members are huddled together outside the tent like bowling pins ready to be knocked down. One responds, "They all have good attacks, but all of them have less than 50 admin ratings and questionable leadership. That's why we are holding all these papers they haven't signed yet."
"No sh&t," one of the messenger mumbles as he starts running back to his radio.
In a tent, just outside of Changsha, the entire general staff of the 11th Army is sitting around table with a map of Asia and a number of cardboard pieces on the map, some stacked to incredibly high levels.
"Stop bumping the table", says the general of the 39th Division, "that's the 3rd time I have to build this stack again".
The general of the 9th Army says, "How much are supply costs for attacking?" When no one answers, he sighs, "where are the rules again? Any pizza left?"
"My CW subs are searching for you around Truk," the general of the 40th Division pipes in, as most are having conversations at the same time. He's wearing a US flag pin on his suit.
Suddenly, messengers burst in the room. "The attack has begun on Changsha."
The generals look at the messengers a bit slowly. "In a minute, we're almost done with the turn. I've still got to roll."
The messengers leave the tent dumbfounded. "What?"
All of the chief staff members are huddled together outside the tent like bowling pins ready to be knocked down. One responds, "They all have good attacks, but all of them have less than 50 admin ratings and questionable leadership. That's why we are holding all these papers they haven't signed yet."
"No sh&t," one of the messenger mumbles as he starts running back to his radio.
RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls
March 30th, 1942
Northern China
Bing, Bam, Boom
Chinese are in retreat in the north. If Bill continues his pattern, it's not a full retreat. He'll pull back and continue a defense in depth. I'm not sure what I would do in his situation. Perhaps a max garrison of cities with fort versus good defensive terrain but no forts. All I can say is that my armor provides me the advantage for at least combat in terrain without forts.
Ground combat at 80,39 (near Tienshui)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 31469 troops, 394 guns, 469 vehicles, Assault Value = 1022
Defending force 21916 troops, 107 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 348
Japanese adjusted assault: 793
Allied adjusted defense: 373
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 37 (2 destroyed, 35 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
7339 casualties reported
Squads: 167 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 234 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 24 (18 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Units retreated 9
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
13th Tank Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
5th Tank Regiment
110th Division
23rd Tank Regiment
8th Ind Engineer Regiment
15th Tank Regiment
26th Division
10th Tank Regiment
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
1st Mortar Battalion
5th Armored Car Co
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Defending units:
19th Chinese Corps
38th Chinese Corps
90th Chinese Corps
34th Separate Brigade
51st Chinese Corps
48th Chinese Corps
1st War Area
83rd Chinese Corps
6th Group Army
Luzon
Sooooo Close
Ground combat at Manila (79,77)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 65265 troops, 703 guns, 343 vehicles, Assault Value = 1481
Defending force 55071 troops, 386 guns, 145 vehicles, Assault Value = 1134
Japanese adjusted assault: 1098
Allied adjusted defense: 689
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1149 casualties reported
Squads: 21 destroyed, 125 disabled
Non Combat: 30 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 15 destroyed, 14 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 10 (8 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
2106 casualties reported
Squads: 59 destroyed, 80 disabled
Non Combat: 16 destroyed, 58 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 18 disabled
Guns lost 17 (5 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Vehicles lost 24 (7 destroyed, 17 disabled)
Assaulting units:
21st Ind Engineer Regiment
5th Division
16th Division
48th Division
65th Brigade
4th Division
2nd Division
14th Army
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
Defending units:
57th PS Infantry Regiment
1st PA Infantry Division
192nd Tank Battalion
1st Constabulary Regiment
71st PA Infantry Division
41st PA Infantry Division
4th Marine Regiment
31st PA Infantry Division
91st PA Infantry Division
21st PA Infantry Division
194th Tank Battalion
26th PS Cavalry Regiment
51st PA Infantry Division
11th PA Infantry Division
2nd Constabulary Regiment
Cavite USN Base Force
Clark Field AAF Base Force
Asiatic Fleet
24th PS FA Regiment
4th PAAC Avn Sup
86th PS Field Artillery Battalion
!/23rd PS FA Battalion
200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment
1st USMC AA Battalion
11th PAAC Avn Sup
27th Avn Sup
35th Avn Sup
88th PS Field Artillery Regiment
24th Avn Sup
Far East USAAF
Nichols Field AAF Base Force
II Corps
US Forces Far East
I/Prov'nl SPM Grp
Northern China
Bing, Bam, Boom
Chinese are in retreat in the north. If Bill continues his pattern, it's not a full retreat. He'll pull back and continue a defense in depth. I'm not sure what I would do in his situation. Perhaps a max garrison of cities with fort versus good defensive terrain but no forts. All I can say is that my armor provides me the advantage for at least combat in terrain without forts.
Ground combat at 80,39 (near Tienshui)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 31469 troops, 394 guns, 469 vehicles, Assault Value = 1022
Defending force 21916 troops, 107 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 348
Japanese adjusted assault: 793
Allied adjusted defense: 373
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 37 (2 destroyed, 35 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
7339 casualties reported
Squads: 167 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 234 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 24 (18 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Units retreated 9
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
13th Tank Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
5th Tank Regiment
110th Division
23rd Tank Regiment
8th Ind Engineer Regiment
15th Tank Regiment
26th Division
10th Tank Regiment
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
1st Mortar Battalion
5th Armored Car Co
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Defending units:
19th Chinese Corps
38th Chinese Corps
90th Chinese Corps
34th Separate Brigade
51st Chinese Corps
48th Chinese Corps
1st War Area
83rd Chinese Corps
6th Group Army
Luzon
Sooooo Close
Ground combat at Manila (79,77)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 65265 troops, 703 guns, 343 vehicles, Assault Value = 1481
Defending force 55071 troops, 386 guns, 145 vehicles, Assault Value = 1134
Japanese adjusted assault: 1098
Allied adjusted defense: 689
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1149 casualties reported
Squads: 21 destroyed, 125 disabled
Non Combat: 30 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 15 destroyed, 14 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 10 (8 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
2106 casualties reported
Squads: 59 destroyed, 80 disabled
Non Combat: 16 destroyed, 58 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 18 disabled
Guns lost 17 (5 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Vehicles lost 24 (7 destroyed, 17 disabled)
Assaulting units:
21st Ind Engineer Regiment
5th Division
16th Division
48th Division
65th Brigade
4th Division
2nd Division
14th Army
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
Defending units:
57th PS Infantry Regiment
1st PA Infantry Division
192nd Tank Battalion
1st Constabulary Regiment
71st PA Infantry Division
41st PA Infantry Division
4th Marine Regiment
31st PA Infantry Division
91st PA Infantry Division
21st PA Infantry Division
194th Tank Battalion
26th PS Cavalry Regiment
51st PA Infantry Division
11th PA Infantry Division
2nd Constabulary Regiment
Cavite USN Base Force
Clark Field AAF Base Force
Asiatic Fleet
24th PS FA Regiment
4th PAAC Avn Sup
86th PS Field Artillery Battalion
!/23rd PS FA Battalion
200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment
1st USMC AA Battalion
11th PAAC Avn Sup
27th Avn Sup
35th Avn Sup
88th PS Field Artillery Regiment
24th Avn Sup
Far East USAAF
Nichols Field AAF Base Force
II Corps
US Forces Far East
I/Prov'nl SPM Grp
RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls
Perhaps someone can shed light on naval ship movement rates.
I have 30 knot battlecruisers that have an 8/4 movement. I have a 31 knot carrier that has a 7/3 movement. Why?
I have 30 knot battlecruisers that have an 8/4 movement. I have a 31 knot carrier that has a 7/3 movement. Why?
RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls
When you say 8/4 and 7/3 are you looking at the ship or the TF? The TF will be limited by the slowest ship, including if any ops points are already burned by refueling/rearming.ORIGINAL: vicberg
Perhaps someone can shed light on naval ship movement rates.
I have 30 knot battlecruisers that have an 8/4 movement. I have a 31 knot carrier that has a 7/3 movement. Why?
The 8/4 (just for example) means basically "in the first naval movement phase next turn, full speed=8 hexes and cuise speed=4 hexes, provided that nothing besides movement uses up too many ops points, in which case fewer hexes might be moved".
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RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls
They are TFs, but single ships each. So it looked just strange that a slower knot BC would be at 8/4 vs. the 31 knot carrier at 7/3. Op points could be at play.
RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls
There is a column for ops points for each ship on the TF display. 0 = none used, 1000 = all used (for the first naval phase of the next turn).
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RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls
Changsha - leave two or three divisions there. Send the rest somewhere to take ground and win the war of maneuver.
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RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls
Well, I started that exact move and then decided to go back into Chansha with the 11th and 6 divisions. The 25th Army with 3 divisions and 4 tank regiments is racing up towards Henyang. They'll be there within a week. Once I'm there, he'll be forced to start withdrawing and I can take advantage of that. I've been doing daily airfield attacks on all 3 cities Henyang Changsha, etc...
Once Changsha is done, I have a strategic decisions To move the 25th out of China or to keep it there and attempt to go the long route into Burma. Not sure if I'll have time for Burma via the Eastern China approach.

Once Changsha is done, I have a strategic decisions To move the 25th out of China or to keep it there and attempt to go the long route into Burma. Not sure if I'll have time for Burma via the Eastern China approach.

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RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls
April 6th, 1942
Luzon
Kaapow
Manila falls which frees up 5 divisions for operations elsewhere.
Ground combat at Manila (79,77)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 72895 troops, 735 guns, 341 vehicles, Assault Value = 1698
Defending force 48002 troops, 343 guns, 120 vehicles, Assault Value = 812
Japanese adjusted assault: 1808
Allied adjusted defense: 229
Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Manila !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
2193 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 165 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 19 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
61388 casualties reported
Squads: 1574 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 3623 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 65 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 487 (487 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 157 (157 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 29
Assaulting units:
21st Ind Engineer Regiment
4th Division
16th Division
48th Division
5th Division
65th Brigade
2nd Division
14th Army
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
Defending units:
21st PA Infantry Division
11th PA Infantry Division
1st PA Infantry Division
192nd Tank Battalion
194th Tank Battalion
91st PA Infantry Division
57th PS Infantry Regiment
51st PA Infantry Division
71st PA Infantry Division
1st Constabulary Regiment
41st PA Infantry Division
31st PA Infantry Division
26th PS Cavalry Regiment
4th Marine Regiment
2nd Constabulary Regiment
Far East USAAF
Cavite USN Base Force
24th PS FA Regiment
86th PS Field Artillery Battalion
Clark Field AAF Base Force
200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment
24th Avn Sup
88th PS Field Artillery Regiment
Asiatic Fleet
Nichols Field AAF Base Force
II Corps
US Forces Far East
!/23rd PS FA Battalion
I/Prov'nl SPM Grp
Luzon
Kaapow
Manila falls which frees up 5 divisions for operations elsewhere.
Ground combat at Manila (79,77)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 72895 troops, 735 guns, 341 vehicles, Assault Value = 1698
Defending force 48002 troops, 343 guns, 120 vehicles, Assault Value = 812
Japanese adjusted assault: 1808
Allied adjusted defense: 229
Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Manila !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
2193 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 165 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 19 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
61388 casualties reported
Squads: 1574 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 3623 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 65 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 487 (487 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 157 (157 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 29
Assaulting units:
21st Ind Engineer Regiment
4th Division
16th Division
48th Division
5th Division
65th Brigade
2nd Division
14th Army
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
Defending units:
21st PA Infantry Division
11th PA Infantry Division
1st PA Infantry Division
192nd Tank Battalion
194th Tank Battalion
91st PA Infantry Division
57th PS Infantry Regiment
51st PA Infantry Division
71st PA Infantry Division
1st Constabulary Regiment
41st PA Infantry Division
31st PA Infantry Division
26th PS Cavalry Regiment
4th Marine Regiment
2nd Constabulary Regiment
Far East USAAF
Cavite USN Base Force
24th PS FA Regiment
86th PS Field Artillery Battalion
Clark Field AAF Base Force
200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment
24th Avn Sup
88th PS Field Artillery Regiment
Asiatic Fleet
Nichols Field AAF Base Force
II Corps
US Forces Far East
!/23rd PS FA Battalion
I/Prov'nl SPM Grp
RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls
April 8th, 1942
Northern China
Main Armored Thrust
Ground combat at 81,40 (near Ankang)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 19481 troops, 222 guns, 409 vehicles, Assault Value = 689
Defending force 23742 troops, 136 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 667
Japanese adjusted assault: 358
Allied adjusted defense: 598
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
658 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 51 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 28 disabled
Vehicles lost 33 (2 destroyed, 31 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
1569 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 132 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 33 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 32 (1 destroyed, 31 disabled)
Assaulting units:
26th Division
9th Tank Regiment
8th Ind Engineer Regiment
13th Tank Regiment
15th Tank Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
2nd Ind Engineer Regiment
10th Tank Regiment
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
1st Mortar Battalion
5th Armored Car Co
Defending units:
80th Chinese Corps
92nd Chinese Corps
18th Artillery Regiment
1st Artillery Regiment
20th Artillery Regiment
56th AT Gun Regiment
He must be getting desperate, this south of Ankang
Ground combat at 83,44 (near Ankang)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 23615 troops, 159 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 801
Defending force 6822 troops, 50 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 205
Allied adjusted assault: 183
Japanese adjusted defense: 1309
Allied assault odds: 1 to 7
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+)
Attacker: shock(+), supply(-)
Japanese ground losses:
189 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Allied ground losses:
588 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 46 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Assaulting units:
17th Chinese Corps
55th Chinese Corps
56th Chinese Corps
77th Chinese Corps
2nd Group Army
7th Artillery Regiment
Defending units:
1st Ind.Mixed Brigade

Northern China
Main Armored Thrust
Ground combat at 81,40 (near Ankang)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 19481 troops, 222 guns, 409 vehicles, Assault Value = 689
Defending force 23742 troops, 136 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 667
Japanese adjusted assault: 358
Allied adjusted defense: 598
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
658 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 51 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 28 disabled
Vehicles lost 33 (2 destroyed, 31 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
1569 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 132 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 33 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 32 (1 destroyed, 31 disabled)
Assaulting units:
26th Division
9th Tank Regiment
8th Ind Engineer Regiment
13th Tank Regiment
15th Tank Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
2nd Ind Engineer Regiment
10th Tank Regiment
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
1st Mortar Battalion
5th Armored Car Co
Defending units:
80th Chinese Corps
92nd Chinese Corps
18th Artillery Regiment
1st Artillery Regiment
20th Artillery Regiment
56th AT Gun Regiment
He must be getting desperate, this south of Ankang
Ground combat at 83,44 (near Ankang)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 23615 troops, 159 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 801
Defending force 6822 troops, 50 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 205
Allied adjusted assault: 183
Japanese adjusted defense: 1309
Allied assault odds: 1 to 7
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+)
Attacker: shock(+), supply(-)
Japanese ground losses:
189 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Allied ground losses:
588 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 46 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Assaulting units:
17th Chinese Corps
55th Chinese Corps
56th Chinese Corps
77th Chinese Corps
2nd Group Army
7th Artillery Regiment
Defending units:
1st Ind.Mixed Brigade

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RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls
Burma
He's started sweeps with Hurricanes and P-38E. I lost around 20 Oscars to his 1 Hurricane.
Are Oscars worth ANYTHING? Not sure what to do with them. I've withdrawn all sentai's from Burma to rebuild while I get my supply situation fixed there and will go back in force, but I'm struggling with the Oscar.
I do have a LOT of AA there, so hopefully that will minimize some of the damage I'm going to take.
He's started sweeps with Hurricanes and P-38E. I lost around 20 Oscars to his 1 Hurricane.
Are Oscars worth ANYTHING? Not sure what to do with them. I've withdrawn all sentai's from Burma to rebuild while I get my supply situation fixed there and will go back in force, but I'm struggling with the Oscar.
I do have a LOT of AA there, so hopefully that will minimize some of the damage I'm going to take.