Grunhilde gets antsy - 1941 GC

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Re: Grunhilde gets antsy - 1941 GC

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M60A3TTS wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:23 pm Stalingrad would have gotten you the win. But it is incredibly hard to take against a competent Soviet player.

Any regrets not moving in that direction?
Less Stalingrad as such, as you say with any degree of preparation its near impossible to take unless the Soviets are at the end of their strength. What I hadn't paid much attention to was that there are 70 city VP (with a guarenteed + 30 time pts) in the arc - Astrakhan-Grozny-Baku. In part, as I didn't really expect to make the progress i did. But that 100 pts is game winning and probably easier than going for Stalingrad. The Soviets can reinforce via the SR, but its a supply desert for them - basically all they have is whatever that NSS in Turkmenistan can send across the Caspian. So I do wonder if my focus on Tambov was very wrong, and that pulling back and releasing additional mobile formations to the south could have paid off.

I had decent supply around Grozny due to the set up, so could have absorbed more demand without crippling myself. I am coming to regard pushing on Tambov as a serious error.
Rosencrantus wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:39 pm If you can, can you please post any screenshots of you using defensive GS? I get almost 0 disruptions when I used it, but I was told that it could be due to cloud coverage (air weather was rain) making my bombers miss.
I've gone back a few turns to find some egs of defensive GS, the recent turns have all been blizzard/heavy snow and that makes a mess of reliable commitment. I think there is a reporting issue, or an outright bug, as it while it shows damage on my side of the equation, it appears my planes did little

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confirmed by the detailed screen:

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while the 'return match' shows what you'd expect to see:

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EwaldvonKleist wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:35 pm I like that the logistics system allows you to leave a flank completely empty because it would be impossible to exploit that weakness for more than 1-2 turns.

I continue to enjoy your (as always) high quality AAR and youratch seems very balanced/tense, if somewhat in favour of the Axis atm.

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thank you - yes if he'd sent say a cavalry raid into that gap by the time they got near anything that mattered their MP would have collapsed giving me an easy pocket. I think at times we both had brigades covering several hundred miles down there

its going to be interesting to see how this pans out now, given its going to come down to the 1944 HWM test. I have +10 over history for city points and a fair bonus for time pts. He can remove the city bonus by say taking Warsaw in December 44 (which if he's in Poland should be doable), so its going to be the trading of time bonuses that determines if I can win there. So I have that safety net (which I didn't have in my last HtH) but we are about 5 turns ahead of the reports and its ... uncomfortable. His usage of the Red Army is very doctrinal, echelons, push stuff to exhaustion, stop and build up again. I'm off balance but due to my commitment to the Caucasus, I have some powerful stuff out of position, so I think as I pull out of the south I can bring this phase to a halt without too much long term damage.
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T79 - blowing up some more Soviet tanks

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T79 – 20 December 1942

Seems that retreating is becoming very popular for the German army

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But generally, some good news on the turn summary, the Soviets are showing a net loss among their armour and no real change to their on-map forces. Despite everything I think I can hold the initiative into Spring 1943 (at the worst), they have retaken Tula but need another 72 to actually flip this measure.

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Weather is blizzards almost everywhere (and deep snow) apart from the south.

Anyway, trying to analyse Soviet actions in that turn could be a good test of psychological orientation. An optimist could see it as that I've taken the steam out of the offensive and have regained a degree of control. A pessimist would think they are just taking a short break.

They make some gains on the west of the Tula salient, but each of those attacks was with an entire army. On the Voronezh sector its clear that is where the bulk of their armour is deployed (or at least their specialist tank armies), it actually looks worse than it was (well its bad but ...). Again each of those attacks was a massive commitment, often with heavy losses and aimed at my weaker flanks.

Also starting to encounter the specialist artillery divisions – another reminder of things to come.

While I don't believe in a passive defense, no counter-attacks for the moment. Except in emergencies there is no point taking on strong Soviet stacks just to regain a hex – and I can't use the surround/rout routine here.

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Beyond that, I am growing a bit worried about the pressure on 16A – and hence Smolensk. They are starting to take out my fortifications and slowly making gains. I think at the moment this only has second rate formations (not least as I now do my best to track what I've come to regard as their best) – but they could shift focus, or reassign commanders and formations.

Naturally I have the predictable fortified belt here, but it also needs to be manned. And any break out here makes a mess of my entire position to the south.

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Better news in the far south. Have abandoned Grozny but they took no advantage of my redeployment and the fresh motorised formations have recreated my local reserve. I've also pulled Heinrici's specialist corps out of the Caucasus for redeployment as a strategic reserve.

My interpretation is the Soviets have heavily concentrated their best formations, hence the echelon attacks, to the extent that they can't take advantage elsewhere. But they do have a great deal of strategic mobility.

In terms of VP my feeling is that Maikop and Krasnodar can be readily held – as long as there is no threat towards Rostov. Voronezh is clearly at risk. But it will be interesting to see how the Soviets respond now there is little reason to keep pressing so hard N of Orel.

Again relatively high Soviet losses, especially for their tanks.

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Which makes this chart rather jolly reading. They've lost a net 1,000 tanks in 2 weeks (in 18 weeks they will have no tanks). My increase is related to the two new Pzr divisions. But I am basically replacing my losses.

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OOB – not too much armour in their reserve either. Have the annoying set of transition from 11A-AG Don- ADK – 8A going on and e-Adolf decided to stick Guderain in charge of a bunch of infantry guarding the Valdai. Guderain must have really annoyed him as there is not a single tank for him to drive around in.

I could empty my AP allowances correcting these AG/OKH assignments only for him to wake in a bad mood tomorrow. At least Hilpert has decent political, morale and admin scores.

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The corps reporting to OKH are all in control of parts of my rear trench lines. As long as they basically stay still till I need the hex I don't care how many leader rolls they miss.

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Re: Grunhilde gets antsy - 1941 GC

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I have the 11th Army on Assault status. Will I lose that when those armies get merged :? ?
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I fear so, I've got very cautious as to how I use 11A into mid-42. If its in a quiet spot all this swapping is painless and you end up with a perfectly conventional army by Spring 43. if its the focus of action, then even the flip from army to army group costs you a little bit on the leader roll system.

In this game its ended up around Leningrad due to my decision to really try and take the place. In another game I'd be tempted to swap the actual HQ up there once the Crimea battles are over and just shuffle the rest of the commands one step south. Then I can ignore this transition.
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You won't lose it - Army Group Don will become an assault 'army'. What happens once AGD will disappear, I do not know.
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Jango32 wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:29 am You won't lose it - Army Group Don will become an assault 'army'. What happens once AGD will disappear, I do not know.
Having tried it it either bugs out after a few turns or possibly it is lost once Army group Don is lost.

Isn't it an exploit anyway to keep above the assault army limit really?
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Jango32 wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:29 am You won't lose it - Army Group Don will become an assault 'army'. What happens once AGD will disappear, I do not know.
do you have a save with it in this status? I'd say thats a bug as the status can only be applied to an Axis army. But I've found a few of these late war conversions trigger odd effects. In my AI Axis game, there was an Army Group conversion in late 44 that acted as an army (think that was fixed but never played that phase since) which it didn't in StB.
exalted wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:26 am ...

Having tried it it either bugs out after a few turns or possibly it is lost once Army group Don is lost.

Isn't it an exploit anyway to keep above the assault army limit really?
sort of, but its clearly set out as a viable rule option or you'd be forced to remove the status as your number of allowed commands shrinks across the war (from an Axis pov). As is prob clear I keep the Pzr armies on this status partly as you need the command capacity and partly as the CPP recovery is so useful for your key offensive formations - I'm not fussed they can't dig over level 1 forts. if its a front line situation where the main fighting is taking place then whether you are attacking or defending that is prob as much as you might gain. Also, admittedly a small saving, its stops freight in that sort of sector going into level 2+ forts.
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I saw it in exalted's AAR.
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T80 - the end of 1942

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T80 – 27 December 1942

Blizzards almost everywhere – so at least the air phase is simple. So of course I spend hours on a massive re-organisation to fit the new battlefield. The main goal was to leave a small balanced force in the Caucasus and improve the support for AGN – especially 16A protecting Smolensk.

In the end, as with much else, my planning revolved around the VP scores – not so much the base city values as the bonus pts.

This shows the current Soviet targets and I've added the turn I need to hold it so that – at worst – the time bonus swap is neutral.

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That does suggest two clusters of time points, say around T84 and then T123 - by the latter it should be clear how the early exchanges have worked out (ie late Summer/early Autumn 1943).

Outside that list there will be no net shifts (they will get +12 for Kalinin and Stalingrad as I never took them, +6 for Helsinki, but they can't get a time bonus for retaking Tula, Grozny or Leningrad).

Of the historical gains and losses they are already +5 (+6 net on Orel retaken in the first winter, +3 net on Rzhev and -4 net on Rostov).

So that sets my first target – the quicker I can remove that +5 on their score the more scope I gain (I'm assuming I'll have a deficit on the off map VP transactions).

The first crisis point is Voronezh but I only need a couple more turns to at least gain some advantage. Smolensk worries me, they are showing signs of attacking in that direction and could transfer troops to make this a real focus. Its so close to the current front that they don't need to make gains at speed, as long as they sustain the pressure.

I am reasonably sure I can come out ahead on Maikop and Krasnodar, the Soviet formations there now need to repair their logistics, they probably lack much mobility in any case.

The basic reason for this analysis and decision making is the quicker I am ahead on bonus pts, the more important my +10 on basic city points comes into play. What I want to create is maximum strategic agency for me and maximum constraints for them – if I know what they need to do to keep in the game its a lot easier to block them.

Which leads us to

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This shows my planned fall back lines. I have a deep fortification zone at Smolensk and a long thin one running south (there is more around Stalino). I need to remove my Pzr formations from the front lines (they are wasted as a defensive asset and too vulnerable to set piece attacks) so I need to shorten my lines and that means that entire salient will be abandoned – but hopefully slowly and to my speed.

There is a gap in the fort line Kursk-Bryansk but the E-W rail links realy don't encourage much effort there – and Kursk is something I can abandon come March 43 if I deem it useful.

The end goal is to have 3 PzrA helping at Smolensk and bring 1 PzrA into the Kharkiv sector. Heinrici's shock corps has redeployed to Rostov and will be committed where the Soviets are most dangerous.

That leaves 17A and 4 PzrA to hold Stalino with 3 Rumanian (4 Rumanian can fall back into the Crimea).

The negative to this, is in repurposing my defensive line, its feasible the Soviets can match this with a redeployment of their own, with perhaps a focus on the flanks (Smolensk and Stalino) rather than the centre.

Losses down a bit but I do need to bring my tank losses back under control.

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OOB, looks like the Soviets have settled for a roughly 7.5m man army and have committed their armoured assets.

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Truck report (and as before, for comparison, this includes Soviet data).

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Freight situation is fairly bad. Deep snow doesn't help but I'm also stripping down my forward depots as I plan to fall back (plus substantial unit moves adds to the rail capacity problems). As above, we've added some Soviet data given the wider discussion about Soviet mid-game logistics.

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And, for comparison, the Soviet Gds table at this stage.

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I guess in a way, this acknowledges we are into the second part of the game. While I notionally have the initiative, in effect its now all about defending my HWM with an eye on the end of December 1944 – which is only 2 (game) years away.
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Re: Grunhilde gets antsy - 1941 GC

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Well you were close to a auto victory, but its anyone's game I guess, your opponent has recovered well.

Still there is always a chance in 1943 for a " Back Hand Blow " against the Russians. :D
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yes, I could sort of see the 750 VP, but just too far.

Going forward there are 2 relatively immediate time pts that will indicate how things are going to work out (as above). One is say T82-86 and that will show who has come out ahead on the first wave of Soviet recaptures (so thats the end of Jan 43). The deeper cluster are around 120-125, that really will set the scene for 1944 as to which of us has the greater choice in our actions (& I do think the next stage is all about who has the most agency and free choice).

We're a few turns ahead (I sent back T84 this morning) and I'm sort of looking for counter-attacks having had a horrendous set of turns. From the last game vs Steven, its tricky. Unless there is a really clear need, a direct head on attack just swaps losses but getting a pocket means risking leaving units badly exposed (that applies to us both).

I guess this is where our mindset as player's comes in - I hate giving up ground I struggled to take. So the sort of large retreat that might open up the space for a real strategic counter-attack is not easy to accept - not least there is little to stop him taking the gift in small chunks - which sort of fits with the view of who has the greatest flexibility at any stage?
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T81 - 1943 starts badly

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T81 – 3 January 1943

New Year, old problems.

Main focus of the Soviet offensive fell on 4 Army and left this partially encircled. In response I had no choice but to commit 3 Pzr Army to free it up and allow a retreat towards Yelets.

If the Soviets can sustain this into the next week, then I am going to be in real trouble here. I had wanted to keep Heinrici's 43 Infantry corps as a reserve but have had to send it to this sector till I can stem the Soviet offensive. I've also stripped the best SU out of 4 PzrA and those (such as the Tigers) should help shore up key locations.

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A crisis made worse by the failure of a counter-attack by 2 Pzr A at Voronezh.

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In combination this has put me badly off balance in the centre. I'm pulling 9A west to improve the defensive lines covering Smolensk and wanted 3 Pzr A back in that sector too – instead its been pulled into the fighting in the east. At Voronezh, Soviet progress is slow but they are now holding their gains – a worrying shift.

In my favour, I really doubt at this stage if a Soviet formation can sustain more than 2 turns of intense combat, so they will need a rest. Notable that their wins are coming from full strength army scale attacks.

On the other hand, north of Orel, I've also lost track of some of their better formations. They may be sat back regaining their mobility but my limited recon has picked up quite a few formations in the Kaluga area.

That may hint at a serious attack towards Smolensk, or south towards Bryansk – given I'm off balance, either could really cause serious problems. The alternative is to commit it more directly at the flank/rear of 3 PzrA – I really do not like them having significant choices where I lack much agency.

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I'm starting to the view that Tambov is this game's Stalingrad. Not only did I lose a lot in trying to take it, but not accepting it was too far has now left me struggling to reset my lines. At least I've not (yet) lost 200,000 men trying to hold onto it.

Losses, whatever damage I'm doing to the Soviet armoured forces, I cannot sustain nearly 500 lost tanks a turn.

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Of my main medium tanks and Stugs, that is 4 weeks production.

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Since you can readily extract this from StB, here's the current Soviet tank production – pools don't mean much as they have just started on the T34/43 variant. But basically that is say 450 tanks a turn (and another 145 light tanks). Neither of us can sustain this, but they are better placed to absorb an industrial war of attrition.

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Still some bits of good news – Soviet advance in the south is cautious and I surrounded and routed a few formations. That should give me the full VP for Maikop and Krasnodar and once I have those I can do a major redeployment.

Not least I desparately need to shorten my supply traces.

Drop supply priority of most of AGN to #1 in an attempt to focus allocation where its really needed.

Again, Soviet summary line added for information.

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The problem is not what is being sent from the NSS – that remains in the 105-110k range its been for a while.

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More that I have dismantled a tier of depots expecting to lose them, I'm going to take more risks with captured stock – I doubt they need it and it will help me keeping my front lines better supplied. Also deep snow and quite a lot of rail moves in the front line areas.

Basically I have a huge incentive – regardless of Soviet actions to pull out of the Caucasus and back to Rostov. But need to hold Krasnodar to T89 if I can (that then gives them 0 time pts).

Should be feasible, not least at the moment I have 2 Pzr Armies guarding very little of long term
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T82 - Counting things (again)

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T82 – 10 January 1943

Regain a VP, in the end the key test may come down to a few time or bonus points so I'm happy to stack these up rather than risk additional shortfalls.

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Of more importance, the Soviets need to take back 53 VP to gain the initiative, so depending on time scores 4-5 cities. They will get 3 by the end of the month/early February as Voronezh will fall (but they are already down to +5) along with the 2 in the Caucasus. I'm not fussed over Rostov, I'll hold it if I can but if things go very badly at Voronezh they can have that back. In combination that will give them 40+time scores. Orel is another at risk, and since I've already lost the +6, its another I'll let go unless there is a really good reason to hold it. At a rough guess that should hand them the formal initiative sometime in March/April.

Weather is almost all blizzard/deep snow, so no airpower and substantial movement penalties. Given my suspicions, I'd really like to be able to run a substantial recon campaign. Likely to be more blizzards next week.

My guess last week that the Soviets couldn't sustain their efforts more or less correct, but still a lot to worry over. At one level a single attack here is of no consequence, but my limited knowledge of their rear suggests a lot of formations present.

Also, if this is just probing then why allocate so many specialist artillery formations.

In response, I've allocated the three recently arrived SS PzrGr formations to this sector and strengthened the front lines where I can.

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Slowly pulling back from the Orel-Voronezh salient, trying not to give ground too fast but I can't hold where I am (not least the Pzrs are mostly at 30 MP which is no good for rapid responses). Allocated Heinrici's 43 Corps to 2 Pzr A and that dealt with several Soviet salients north of Voronezh as well as allowed some weakened infantry diivisions to pull back for refit.

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Little sustained action to the south, slowly pulling back in the Don bend and more rapidly in the Caucasus. While I want to control the loss of Maikop and Krasnodar I also need 4 Pzr A facing the main Soviet offensive.

Loss ratio is not good, ideally I need to find the scope for some serious counter-attacks as opposed to just taking out infiltrating formations head on.

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Guess this suggests the Soviets are aiming at around 7.5m on the map.

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Both sides have substantial manpower reserves, especially for replacement of losses.

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Very nice read! Must take a loot of time with all those screenshots and statistics!

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Does this mean 300 T34's are produced each week? What happens to tanks that got obsolete? E.g. the old czech and french tanks when they get overtaken by TOE changes, do they fade to exist? Same for planes? If so, one should always play so aggressively that the front eats up the production? I think you mentioned this once or twice in this AAR.
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Re: Grunhilde gets antsy - 1941 GC

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thank you.

It doesn't take too long as I guess I have a routine. Also this makes me review and track things which I'd be doing anyway. My other concern is there are a lot of claims about the mid-game but precious little hard data so try to give as much background etc as I can.

to your question in the other thread.

I played a vs AI game as the axis and opened 1942 really only just over the HWM to avoid an auto-defeat. The AAR is knocking around somewhere but I missed out on an autowin at the end of 1942 by 10 pts.

To me, the key is not to get depressed at the size of the Red Army, up to about August you have 2 huge advantages. It can't retreat as it did in 1941 and their really dire NM (45) means that units that retreat, then often rout. Routs inflict extra losses, especially of heavy weapons. My opponent in this game said he had 50+ rifle divisions needing to refit in some of the early summer turns, the AI is just not going to manage things with that degree of care. Already weakened units can simply shatter rather than rout. So mix the retreat/rout combination with small pockets. Even a single rifle division is worhwhile.

It adds up, and having carved out operational space, you can pick up a lot of VP as the summer goes on - so start with the Red Army as your prime target then collect locations.

As to tank production, yes the Soviets get 300 or so T34s a turn. The replacement process is a bit complex.

Each TOE has a target model, so the system will try to get that by choice. To some extent it will swap out older stuff but that is where the complications start. It actually takes freight to remove a tank, so if the unit is in poor supply it will tend to stick to what it has. The other constraint is if you have low production pools (v typical as the axis) then again a unit will hold onto older stuff unless you pull it well off the line. Equally if it can't find the model it wants it will either grab an alternative or something that is in the pools but out of production. These swaps can be close (say a Sherman for a T34) or fairly distant (it will use Stugs where it really should have medium tanks).

As the Axis, you'll find you have Pzr divisions running around with 1941 tanks well into 1942 (and of course some of those tanks were technically obsolete on 22 June 1941). So in technological terms, the Soviets really are ahead, both as to the quality of their average tank and that you have plenty of sub-optimal stuff. What stops this being a disaster is essentially the training and doctrine of your tankers (reflected in morale and experience). You'd lose fair fights, but fortunately you don't have to fight fair. 1943 is the one time when the Germans are ahead, that version of the PzrIV and the Panther trump the final version of the T34/76. So just as the Soviets start to close the doctrinal gap, they find themselves on the wrong end of a technology gap. The mass arrival of the IS-2 and T34/85 (plus the SU-85 and ISUs) marks the end of the Panzers. Your doctrinal difference is eroding, they are as good technologically as you and there are more of them ...
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T84

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T84 – 24 January 1943

[These were already written, I'll do some catching up with broad summary posts]

Two factors before the details. That is a lot off the Soviet numbers and I'm steadily making progress in the West. Given the relative lack of serious losses last turn I suspect another major redeployment is under way.

The extra VP are sort of wasted at the moment as all this does is to delay the initiative change but still cheers me up.

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Some signs the Soviet offensive is breaking into somewhat episodic, fragmented attacks. Sticking 3 SS PzrGr formations directly in the road to Smolensk seemed to divert that sector to the flanks. While there were a lot of attacks on the 2nd Army sector they were mostly linear.

For the first time I didn't have to attack to free up formations that allowed me to both release divisions to refit and start to move into my next defensive phase. This effectively splits 3 PzrA from 2 Pzr around Voronezh but I need to be able to stop the Soviets gaining any momentum here.

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The other half of that sector saw a few localised counter-attacks to either clear a retreat path or drive off an over-optimistic incursion.

Perhaps the key action was defeating the Soviet attempts north and south of Voronezh itself.

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I'll probably abandon the city next turn, not least by then substantial elements of 1 PzrA will be available on the southern flank.

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Not much is happening on the southern flank, 17A counter-attacked where the Soviets were a bit incautious, slowly swapping 4 and 1 Pzr at Rostov, next turn the bulk of the mobile elements can be in action supporting 2 Pzr. Generated a small pocket, admittedly of one cavalry division using an entire Pzr Corps, but they weren't useable anywhere else. Its clear the Soviets have no real combat power here so anything that makes them even more cautious is a good idea.

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Losses – at least I've got my tank losses under control, that, plus extracting 3 Pzr from the running battles north of Orel should help me regain some resiliance.

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Air war started again (mostly snowfall this turn) and very much in my favour.

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Detailed OOB, still having to spend a lot of admin pts when e-Adolf has gone to bed to avoid some of his less astute army command choices. Leaving Guderian to enjoy the Valdai, I'm sure that will give him something to discuss with Liddel-Hart after the war.

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Freight (and matching Soviet summary). I really need to shorten my supply lines, the deep snow is really costing me MP as much as anything but in a few turns I'll have nothing significant south of Rostov and will be pulling back to Kursk-Kharkiv-Stalino which should sort out most of this.

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Truck watch – not surprisingly reflects the above, in that I have a relatively low truck/unit ratio made far worse by using so many unit trucks in the freight system.

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In effect, they gain 15,000 trucks back from various sources and I'm gaining 15,000. A rather unexpected symmetry.

Manpower reserves, mine has built up a little as I've struggled to send replacements to formations in poor supply. The Stalingrad bonus doesn't start to appear till March (if I remember correctly).

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At a rough guess, the Soviets have just pulled the equivalent of 2 armies into reserve. They could be used to reinforce the current operations or open a new sector such as Leningrad or towards Velikie Luki.

More generally, my guess is they are starting to run out of capacity (or have too many separate offensives). Notable that the appearance of the PzrGr formations seemed to end their direct attack towards Smolensk.

If so, I've weathered the worst of their opening blow, its taken me 7-8 turns to do this and I've lost a lot of terrain – and certainly can no longer see any route to improve the HWM (never mind gain an automatic win).
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T85

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T85 – 31 January 1943

Off-map world a bit confusing with the loss of Tripoli being deemed a major success, Also pick up a couple of VP from Western Europe and Transcaucasus.

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Another set of Luftwaffe reorganisations, given that Smolensk is now a key sector. Basically L1 is running GS for 16A and 3 PzrA, IVFK for AGC and 1FK for AGB. L4 is covering AGA.

The key to all this is my view that its clarity of the relationship between airfields, command structure and target formations that really matter in terms of organising the airwar.

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After all my entertainment at the idea of Guderian being tankless the game has taken revenge. Seems that now ADK is a fresh army, AGB is removed and I presume AG Don is renamed.

A useful reminder to check the charts.

Given what I have and where, I can handle this by adjusting the relative AG commands based on where they are. So AG Don has the critical role of defending Smolensk and Guderian gets some tanks to play with – at least till e-Adolf sacks him again.

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Mixed results on the Soviet turn, seem to have stalled their attack towards Smolensk and around Voronezh. But on two sectors they attacked in echelon and managed to exploit. My counter-attacks really limited to freeing up partially encircled units.

I've pulled out of Voronezh and not too worried about their salient to the south (1 Pzr has completed its redeployment). In a way I hope they commit to this as that opens the chance of a pocket, or at least to do a lot of damage on my terms.

The attack on the hinge between 2 and 4 Armies is more of a problem, especially as I lack mobility for both 2 and 3 Pzr Army formations.

So my goal is a controlled retreat, hopefully back to better supply. From experience, low mobility among the Pzrs is a real problem as you then have to guess right as to where the Soviets will go. I'm hoping that 3 PzrA will improve now its close to Bryansk.

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Losses are a little misleading as several Hungarian divisions were nearly destroyed south of Voronezh. Eliminated the cavalry division I surrounded last turn and that seems to have made them very cautious in the south.

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Air war in my favour

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Tank pools, using everything that is produced.

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And the reverse table

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Great to have you back. How do you get a formation inventory for your air units?
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jasonbroomer wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:43 pm Great to have you back. How do you get a formation inventory for your air units?

Indeed :-)


For the inventory.

1. Commander's report.

2. HQs tab.

3. Click on the number of aircrafts (AC).
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