New Public Beta - v1128 Live Now!

[Diliwitm]

The issue is what is "historical" . The Japanese did not made any serious effort in China until 44 and advanced when brought tank forces, i don't think a player should be restricted to that. Otherwise what is to play?

I think a 10% cut on nearby resources centers would be better.

Question: are the incredible good odds of torpedo bombers while in anti ship bombing mission hits been corrected?

[Seacat54]

The issue is what is "historical" . The Japanese did not made any serious effort in China until 44 and advanced when brought tank forces, i don't think a player should be restricted to that. Otherwise what is to play?

I think a 10% cut on nearby resources centers would be better.

Question: are the incredible good odds of torpedo bombers while in anti ship bombing mission hits been corrected?

True but supplies where an issue 44, they massed them for that push and where exhausted during and after it, there is zero possibility that they could have taken China 41-45.

[Diliwitm]

That implies a competent Chinese reaction to a Japanese change of plans, commanders etc...as history shows sometimes a win can be done with low resources.

[Seacat54]

That implies a competent Chinese reaction to a Japanese change of plans, commanders etc...as history shows sometimes a win can be done with low resources.

Lets say it was highly unlikely and happens too often in the game, some mods are focused on this issue.
But it is a game and I think doing better than historical has to be possible to an extent, playing Japan it should always come with hard decisions where to use your resources.
The new map looks interesting, explains the IJA OOB in China at game start.
Central China Area Operations Record 1937-1941 can be found online, good historical source.

[RangerJoe]

One thing about the China theatre, the Chinese were not unified. While the Nationalists and Communists agreed not to fight each other and to fight the Japanese, the Communists did not do much. Then there were the individual warlords who would change sides.

[Seacat54]

One thing about the China theatre, the Chinese were not unified. While the Nationalists and Communists agreed not to fight each other and to fight the Japanese, the Communists did not do much. Then there were the individual warlords who would change sides.

True and IJA had destroyed the best Nationalist formations by 1941, mostly in Shanghai and Nanjing, they where openly waiting the Pacific War to play out and get on with the Chinese Civil War.
But it is hard to object to the Nationalist strategy, it worked and they won with their forced Fabian strategy, this should be a viable strategy in game also.

One notable exception is Burma, that last line of communication was worth fighting for but the result was predictable with the quality of forces available.

[rkeach1]

Hi, I am relatively new to WITP, but was a little surprised that the USN Lockheed Ventura was not represented in the land based aircraft because of its use in the Pacific Theater in WW2 (1600 were in the USN)...but the Australian Army Hudson is represented.

"The Lockheed Ventura, as it was to be known, was larger than the Hudson, with more powerful engines, improved armament and a greater load-carrying capability. From 1942 the US Navy took over all ASW work from the army and obtained 1600 PV-1s. - Aircraft Aces. http://www.aircraftaces.com/pv1-ventura.htm

"The PV-1 began to be delivered in December 1942, and entered service in February 1943. The first squadron in combat was VP-135, deployed in the Aleutian Islands in April 1943. They were operated by three other squadrons in this theatre. From the Aleutians, they flew strikes against bases in Paramushiro and Shimushu, Japanese islands in the Kurile chain. Often, PV-1s would lead B-24 bomber formations, since they were equipped with radar. In late 1943, some PV-1s were deployed to the Solomon Islands as night fighters with VMF(N)-531, a Marine Corps fighter squadron." - Lockheed Ventura Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Ventura

They were used in advanced photo recon, supply bombing runs and leading the B-24's in the south pacific and Taiwan. A number of news articles were published during the war as they hopscotched thru the islands after SeaBees built the landing strip for them. The Japanese targeted the Venturas because when they saw them doing recon, they new the USN was getting closer and closer. A squadron was almost completely destroyed on one island by the Japanese planes strafing them on the sand next to the landing strip in one article I read.

I see the Lockheed Ventura and its 2nd iteration the Harpoon (only 69 harpoons were used late in WW2) at many air shows and a few regional airports have restored them for display. I realize not all land based aircraft can be represented, just an observation,

The history of the United States Navy is just epic and legendary. I am enjoying the game and am looking forward to the new beta.

Thanks for all the hard work to keep this going.

[btd64]

They are in the game. Don't have the game open right now so I can't provide a picture.....GP

[RangerJoe]

Hi, I am relatively new to WITP, but was a little surprised that the USN Lockheed Ventura was not represented in the land based aircraft because of its use in the Pacific Theater in WW2 (1600 were in the USN)...but the Australian Army Hudson is represented.

"The Lockheed Ventura, as it was to be known, was larger than the Hudson, with more powerful engines, improved armament and a greater load-carrying capability. From 1942 the US Navy took over all ASW work from the army and obtained 1600 PV-1s. - Aircraft Aces. http://www.aircraftaces.com/pv1-ventura.htm

"The PV-1 began to be delivered in December 1942, and entered service in February 1943. The first squadron in combat was VP-135, deployed in the Aleutian Islands in April 1943. They were operated by three other squadrons in this theatre. From the Aleutians, they flew strikes against bases in Paramushiro and Shimushu, Japanese islands in the Kurile chain. Often, PV-1s would lead B-24 bomber formations, since they were equipped with radar. In late 1943, some PV-1s were deployed to the Solomon Islands as night fighters with VMF(N)-531, a Marine Corps fighter squadron." - Lockheed Ventura Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Ventura

They were used in advanced photo recon, supply bombing runs and leading the B-24's in the south pacific and Taiwan. A number of news articles were published during the war as they hopscotched thru the islands after SeaBees built the landing strip for them. The Japanese targeted the Venturas because when they saw them doing recon, they new the USN was getting closer and closer. A squadron was almost completely destroyed on one island by the Japanese planes strafing them on the sand next to the landing strip in one article I read.

I see the Lockheed Ventura and its 2nd iteration the Harpoon (only 69 harpoons were used late in WW2) at many air shows and a few regional airports have restored them for display. I realize not all land based aircraft can be represented, just an observation,

The history of the United States Navy is just epic and legendary. I am enjoying the game and am looking forward to the new beta.

Thanks for all the hard work to keep this going.

I just looked at the in-game database, it is in the game for the USN plus the Australians and the New Zealanders. The night fighter version is available to the USN. It comes in later but since I am playing the Japanese, I just can't look at the Allied Aircraft Reinforcements to see just when it comes in the game.

[btd64]

Thank you RJ....GP

[RangerJoe]

Thank you RJ....GP

You are most welcome!

[rkeach1]

Hi, I am relatively new to WITP, but was a little surprised that the USN Lockheed Ventura was not represented in the land based aircraft because of its use in the Pacific Theater in WW2 (1600 were in the USN)...but the Australian Army Hudson is represented.

"The Lockheed Ventura, as it was to be known, was larger than the Hudson, with more powerful engines, improved armament and a greater load-carrying capability. From 1942 the US Navy took over all ASW work from the army and obtained 1600 PV-1s. - Aircraft Aces. http://www.aircraftaces.com/pv1-ventura.htm

"The PV-1 began to be delivered in December 1942, and entered service in February 1943. The first squadron in combat was VP-135, deployed in the Aleutian Islands in April 1943. They were operated by three other squadrons in this theatre. From the Aleutians, they flew strikes against bases in Paramushiro and Shimushu, Japanese islands in the Kurile chain. Often, PV-1s would lead B-24 bomber formations, since they were equipped with radar. In late 1943, some PV-1s were deployed to the Solomon Islands as night fighters with VMF(N)-531, a Marine Corps fighter squadron." - Lockheed Ventura Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Ventura

They were used in advanced photo recon, supply bombing runs and leading the B-24's in the south pacific and Taiwan. A number of news articles were published during the war as they hopscotched thru the islands after SeaBees built the landing strip for them. The Japanese targeted the Venturas because when they saw them doing recon, they new the USN was getting closer and closer. A squadron was almost completely destroyed on one island by the Japanese planes strafing them on the sand next to the landing strip in one article I read.

I see the Lockheed Ventura and its 2nd iteration the Harpoon (only 69 harpoons were used late in WW2) at many air shows and a few regional airports have restored them for display. I realize not all land based aircraft can be represented, just an observation,

The history of the United States Navy is just epic and legendary. I am enjoying the game and am looking forward to the new beta.

Thanks for all the hard work to keep this going.

I just looked at the in-game database, it is in the game for the USN plus the Australians and the New Zealanders. The night fighter version is available to the USN. It comes in later but since I am playing the Japanese, I just can't look at the Allied Aircraft Reinforcements to see just when it comes in the game.

Thanks! I should have thought of that, I am just too early in my playthru. It will make my father happy, he was a pilot in a Ventura in the south pacific. Thanks again!

[RangerJoe]

Hi, I am relatively new to WITP, but was a little surprised that the USN Lockheed Ventura was not represented in the land based aircraft because of its use in the Pacific Theater in WW2 (1600 were in the USN)...but the Australian Army Hudson is represented.

"The Lockheed Ventura, as it was to be known, was larger than the Hudson, with more powerful engines, improved armament and a greater load-carrying capability. From 1942 the US Navy took over all ASW work from the army and obtained 1600 PV-1s. - Aircraft Aces. http://www.aircraftaces.com/pv1-ventura.htm

"The PV-1 began to be delivered in December 1942, and entered service in February 1943. The first squadron in combat was VP-135, deployed in the Aleutian Islands in April 1943. They were operated by three other squadrons in this theatre. From the Aleutians, they flew strikes against bases in Paramushiro and Shimushu, Japanese islands in the Kurile chain. Often, PV-1s would lead B-24 bomber formations, since they were equipped with radar. In late 1943, some PV-1s were deployed to the Solomon Islands as night fighters with VMF(N)-531, a Marine Corps fighter squadron." - Lockheed Ventura Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Ventura

They were used in advanced photo recon, supply bombing runs and leading the B-24's in the south pacific and Taiwan. A number of news articles were published during the war as they hopscotched thru the islands after SeaBees built the landing strip for them. The Japanese targeted the Venturas because when they saw them doing recon, they new the USN was getting closer and closer. A squadron was almost completely destroyed on one island by the Japanese planes strafing them on the sand next to the landing strip in one article I read.

I see the Lockheed Ventura and its 2nd iteration the Harpoon (only 69 harpoons were used late in WW2) at many air shows and a few regional airports have restored them for display. I realize not all land based aircraft can be represented, just an observation,

The history of the United States Navy is just epic and legendary. I am enjoying the game and am looking forward to the new beta.

Thanks for all the hard work to keep this going.

I just looked at the in-game database, it is in the game for the USN plus the Australians and the New Zealanders. The night fighter version is available to the USN. It comes in later but since I am playing the Japanese, I just can't look at the Allied Aircraft Reinforcements to see just when it comes in the game.

Thanks! I should have thought of that, I am just too early in my playthru. It will make my father happy, he was a pilot in a Ventura in the south pacific. Thanks again!

You are most welcome.

If you look at the Intelligence screen (press "i" or use the top button for that) you can look up the air units coming in or the Allied Aircraft replacements. You might even be able to find your father's unit and add him as a pilot. (Give him very high statistics and especially a 99 defensive value!)

[rkeach1]

I just looked at the in-game database, it is in the game for the USN plus the Australians and the New Zealanders. The night fighter version is available to the USN. It comes in later but since I am playing the Japanese, I just can't look at the Allied Aircraft Reinfrcements to see just when it comes in the game.

Thanks! I should have thought of that, I am just too early in my playthru. It will make my father happy, he was a pilot in a Ventura in the south pacific. Thanks again!

You are most welcome.

If you look at the Intelligence screen (press "i" or use the top button for that) you can look up the air units coming in or the Allied Aircraft replacements. You might even be able to find your father's unit and add him as a pilot. (Give him very high statistics and especially a 99 defensive value!)

Thank you. I did find his squadron, VB-137 flying PV-1 Ventura in game.

The wiki does a good job of listing the missions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VPB-137

Love the complexity of WiTP.

Thanks again!

[jetjockey]

More of a database issue than a glitch, but...

Squadron of Superforts in Spring of '42.

USS Iowa in service Summer of '42.

[RangerJoe]

More of a database issue than a glitch, but...

Squadron of Superforts in Spring of '42.

USS Iowa in service Summer of '42.

The Superforts have been reported.

I never saw the Iowa in 1942.

[btd64]

More of a database issue than a glitch, but...

Squadron of Superforts in Spring of '42.

USS Iowa in service Summer of '42.

The Superforts have been reported.

I never saw the Iowa in 1942.

I'm with RJ....GP

[chazz]

Playing as the Allies vs AI Japan

Superfortresses in 1942?

I see that there are a lot of ship withdrawals that are ahistorical, especially w/ USN destroyers

Rationale?

[RangerJoe]

Playing as the Allies vs AI Japan

Superfortresses in 1942?

I see that there are a lot of ship withdrawals that are ahistorical, especially w/ USN destroyers

Rationale?

This has already been reported, plus it has been commented on here a few times already.

[Enforcer]

If I am installing a new copy do I just install base game and patch v1128 or do I need other patches as well?