Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, Docup(A)-Koniu(J)
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
I see there at lest 4 or 5 groups from Essex carriers. But i can only confirm one CVL becouse i only see it durring replay.
I he bring big boys plus Iowa battleships i dont se how Docup can risk them ergo he must have there major force. Taking big carriers there with small force is not worth risk becouse he can do that with CVE only.
Of course Docup can switch air groups and actually those CV groups can be flying from CVE and that mean it is bait and he will move elswere
I he bring big boys plus Iowa battleships i dont se how Docup can risk them ergo he must have there major force. Taking big carriers there with small force is not worth risk becouse he can do that with CVE only.
Of course Docup can switch air groups and actually those CV groups can be flying from CVE and that mean it is bait and he will move elswere
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
Still waiting for turn so i will tell You what my plan is.
I belie entire operation is attempt to intercept and destroy Japanese BBs in region.
So far Docup 3 times move landing craft to Ambon hex and 3 times i send Kongo's to intercept them. Without success.
Last turn again two enemy TF end in Ambon hex but strangely they unload nothing.
Bait i will say.
I believe Docup plan is like that. Iowas and Fletcher will sweep Kendari hex and simultaneously slower BBs and cruiser from Gorong will go for Ambon.
CV he have there are here to give air cover for his SAGs and eventually finish what will be left from Japanese battle wagons.
Japanese plan is like that.
BB TF i have in north will move at full speed and will merge with BBs in Kendari hex
I hope they will merge before enemy will enter Kendari hex. I should have 4xBB(Kongos) TF there. CL TF some Es and LBs will try to slowdown enemy before they meet Tanaka big boys
Simultaneously KB will jump at full SE of Kendari. I chose position ~9 or more hexes from most
of allied AF. If we have naval Battle in Kendari i hope enemy damaged ships will be at KB range on morning.
CV battle will be bonus
I belie entire operation is attempt to intercept and destroy Japanese BBs in region.
So far Docup 3 times move landing craft to Ambon hex and 3 times i send Kongo's to intercept them. Without success.
Last turn again two enemy TF end in Ambon hex but strangely they unload nothing.
Bait i will say.
I believe Docup plan is like that. Iowas and Fletcher will sweep Kendari hex and simultaneously slower BBs and cruiser from Gorong will go for Ambon.
CV he have there are here to give air cover for his SAGs and eventually finish what will be left from Japanese battle wagons.
Japanese plan is like that.
BB TF i have in north will move at full speed and will merge with BBs in Kendari hex
I hope they will merge before enemy will enter Kendari hex. I should have 4xBB(Kongos) TF there. CL TF some Es and LBs will try to slowdown enemy before they meet Tanaka big boys
Simultaneously KB will jump at full SE of Kendari. I chose position ~9 or more hexes from most
of allied AF. If we have naval Battle in Kendari i hope enemy damaged ships will be at KB range on morning.
CV battle will be bonus
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
Have no time for details. But there was no CV battle.
Docup know that KB is in Banda Sea- his bombers attack KB at night damaging two DD with bombs. Lucky i lost only few LBA bombers at day
Enemy fleet is gone. KB SE of Kendari - undetected.(only small SAG have DL 2/5
Big disappointment. Docup know me to well[8D]
KB will retreat north for refuel and i think it is time to move closer to home
Docup know that KB is in Banda Sea- his bombers attack KB at night damaging two DD with bombs. Lucky i lost only few LBA bombers at day
Enemy fleet is gone. KB SE of Kendari - undetected.(only small SAG have DL 2/5
Big disappointment. Docup know me to well[8D]
KB will retreat north for refuel and i think it is time to move closer to home
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
30 August 1944
Again i saw enemy CV near Ambon.
This time i have no KB ready so full job go to LBA planes. On morning enemy navy show up north of Ambon. LBA attack. Not many return back for what, for single TT hit in to CVL.
But i can live with that.
Wortst. I have CA TF in Manado i forgot to givee them retreat order and they where captured in Manado port(after they disband and night phase). two CA light damaged, two CL sunk 7 DD sunk 8 E sunk[X(]
It is not over i had BB TF 80 miles from Kendari they where attacked by CV bombers. Short story Fuso go down and another BB will spend few months in yard.
600 planes lost for 200 on Allied side. Manado closed.
For details ask docup i have to low morale
Again i saw enemy CV near Ambon.
This time i have no KB ready so full job go to LBA planes. On morning enemy navy show up north of Ambon. LBA attack. Not many return back for what, for single TT hit in to CVL.
But i can live with that.
Wortst. I have CA TF in Manado i forgot to givee them retreat order and they where captured in Manado port(after they disband and night phase). two CA light damaged, two CL sunk 7 DD sunk 8 E sunk[X(]
It is not over i had BB TF 80 miles from Kendari they where attacked by CV bombers. Short story Fuso go down and another BB will spend few months in yard.
600 planes lost for 200 on Allied side. Manado closed.
For details ask docup i have to low morale
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
Maybe it's time to pull back the big guns and make him wonder more again. I know it's tough to concede space, but time is on your side here. You could keep good assets to very late and they will still be useful in areas like the PI, Formosa and around the HI if you still have something to fight with then. Maybe et the small stuff, planes and subs and quick little SAGs take bites out occasionally for a while to get him feeling confident, then throw the hammer of the KB in. Often not knowing what is coming is more scary from the Allied side than having to fight what you can see.
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
+1ORIGINAL: obvert
Maybe it's time to pull back the big guns and make him wonder more again. I know it's tough to concede space, but time is on your side here. You could keep good assets to very late and they will still be useful in areas like the PI, Formosa and around the HI if you still have something to fight with then. Maybe et the small stuff, planes and subs and quick little SAGs take bites out occasionally for a while to get him feeling confident, then throw the hammer of the KB in. Often not knowing what is coming is more scary from the Allied side than having to fight what you can see.
It is my plan for tomorrow, I will use KB but as defensive force.
I need to secure those CAs and BBs in area that need to retreat tomorrow.
KB will take secure position close enough to give air cover but outside range of his carriers.
Ambon area will be lost soon. I will now focus on inside defense ring. After all it is now December 1944
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
ORIGINAL: koniu
30 August 1944
Again i saw enemy CV near Ambon.
This time i have no KB ready so full job go to LBA planes. On morning enemy navy show up north of Ambon. LBA attack. Not many return back for what, for single TT hit in to CVL.
But i can live with that.
Wortst. I have CA TF in Manado i forgot to givee them retreat order and they where captured in Manado port(after they disband and night phase). two CA light damaged, two CL sunk 7 DD sunk 8 E sunk[X(]
It is not over i had BB TF 80 miles from Kendari they where attacked by CV bombers. Short story Fuso go down and another BB will spend few months in yard.
600 planes lost for 200 on Allied side. Manado closed.
For details ask docup i have to low morale
First post was not 100% accurate
I lost only 5DD, also i did not notice that both damaged CAs have fires ~20 points
I am able to send in air over 700 fighters they will protect airspace over Kendari. CA TF will protect waters around base.
KB will take position near Manado to protect over 20 damaged ships that need to retreat north
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
Fate of Empire?
Turn is on Docup side.
I decided to be more aggressive. Probably mistake but i believe it will be last chance when i will have numeric advantage over allied CV planes. Estimated number of his forces is 800-1000 carrier based planes.(Probably 600+ are fighters)
I belive big strike escorted by ~200-250 A7M2 will be able to get trough. Plus i will figt above own base so many pilots will survive
KB main job will be protect ships that need to retreat from Manado but they will take more aggressive position. Among many TFs i see allies have few "APA" TFs. I believe those are landing troops for Ternate or more probable reinforcements for Ambon.
KB will take position in magical 8 hex from Ambon(or 2 hexes[X(] if Ternate) and 750 bombers will try to kill. (first time i will intentionally aim for 8 hex strike)
So it can be knife fight
I will have 750 strike bombers and 300 escort fighters. KB will have CAP of 300 CV fighters and between 0-300(Ki-44c, N1K2, Ki-84r) fighters from Ternate.
PS. First 6 Ki-83 arrive to pool[:D] k.
Turn is on Docup side.
I decided to be more aggressive. Probably mistake but i believe it will be last chance when i will have numeric advantage over allied CV planes. Estimated number of his forces is 800-1000 carrier based planes.(Probably 600+ are fighters)
I belive big strike escorted by ~200-250 A7M2 will be able to get trough. Plus i will figt above own base so many pilots will survive
KB main job will be protect ships that need to retreat from Manado but they will take more aggressive position. Among many TFs i see allies have few "APA" TFs. I believe those are landing troops for Ternate or more probable reinforcements for Ambon.
KB will take position in magical 8 hex from Ambon(or 2 hexes[X(] if Ternate) and 750 bombers will try to kill. (first time i will intentionally aim for 8 hex strike)
So it can be knife fight
I will have 750 strike bombers and 300 escort fighters. KB will have CAP of 300 CV fighters and between 0-300(Ki-44c, N1K2, Ki-84r) fighters from Ternate.
PS. First 6 Ki-83 arrive to pool[:D] k.
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
Good luck!
What will your monthly production of the Ki83 be?

What will your monthly production of the Ki83 be?
RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Good luck!
What will your monthly production of the Ki83 be?
180 planes
wait 1 minute i will give you my production numbers
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
production.
Little to much Ki-84 someone will say, but only last turn i lost 170 of them

Little to much Ki-84 someone will say, but only last turn i lost 170 of them

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
Just fast info
Just watching replay
CV BATTLE
Just watching replay
CV BATTLE
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
Japanese strike
500 bombers 300 fighters
Allied CAP ~220 fighters [:D]
It will be semi live report

500 bombers 300 fighters
Allied CAP ~220 fighters [:D]
It will be semi live report

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"Live-blogging"! [:D]
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
a2a phase is over
I lost 10 A7M2 and ~120 bomber

I lost 10 A7M2 and ~120 bomber

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
Ouch, whatever DOCUP have there will suffer. Only 220 Fighters? Can´t be over his CVs?

RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
Last turn he had 600+CAP dont know when all others are gone. Maybe they LCAP ships in Namlea hex but if so why Docup leave his Carrier north of Ceram.ORIGINAL: JocMeister
Ouch, whatever DOCUP have there will suffer. Only 220 Fighters? Can´t be over his CVs?
Or maybe i will see huge escorted strike against KB
I in the middle of Japanese naval attack
3xCV are gone 3xCVL also
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
ORIGINAL: koniu
Last turn he had 600+CAP dont know when all others are gone. Maybe they LCAP ships in Namlea hex but if so why Docup leave his Carrier north of Ceram.ORIGINAL: JocMeister
Ouch, whatever DOCUP have there will suffer. Only 220 Fighters? Can´t be over his CVs?
Or maybe i will see huge escorted strike against KB
I in the middle of Japanese naval attack
3xCV are gone 3xCVL also
Hmmmm seems like at least 6 carriers of some sort ...

Not exactly a plan needed for the DEI ...
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)
ORIGINAL: Crackaces
ORIGINAL: koniu
Last turn he had 600+CAP dont know when all others are gone. Maybe they LCAP ships in Namlea hex but if so why Docup leave his Carrier north of Ceram.ORIGINAL: JocMeister
Ouch, whatever DOCUP have there will suffer. Only 220 Fighters? Can´t be over his CVs?
Or maybe i will see huge escorted strike against KB
I in the middle of Japanese naval attack
3xCV are gone 3xCVL also
Hmmmm seems like at least 6 carriers of some sort ...
Not exactly a plan needed for the DEI ...
AM phase is done
At lest 4xCV heavy damaged or sunk, 1 CVL sunk two more damaged
CL sunk in Ambon hex
No allied counterattack
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