The Accidental War Obvert vs Lowpe

[CaptBeefheart]

Regarding the American-flagged bases in Manchuria, I have a game going where I have U.S. aircraft flying missions from Soviet-flagged bases in Korea and Manchuria. Interestingly, I cannot transfer U.S. aircraft to original Soviet bases.

So, I guess I'm wondering what the benefit of flipping the flag of those bases is. Apologies if I missed a discussion on this.

Cheers,
CC

[Lowpe]

April 14, 1942

Allies rest their bombers, only one small strike at Kuantan. Nothing in Manchuko.

[Lowpe]

Some much needed reinforcements

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: Commander Cody

Regarding the American-flagged bases in Manchuria, I have a game going where I have U.S. aircraft flying missions from Soviet-flagged bases in Korea and Manchuria. Interestingly, I cannot transfer U.S. aircraft to original Soviet bases.

So, I guess I'm wondering what the benefit of flipping the flag of those bases is. Apologies if I missed a discussion on this.

Cheers,
CC

Those bases are in Manchuko, not original Soviet territory, so they can support American and British Beasts.

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

ORIGINAL: Commander Cody

Regarding the American-flagged bases in Manchuria, I have a game going where I have U.S. aircraft flying missions from Soviet-flagged bases in Korea and Manchuria. Interestingly, I cannot transfer U.S. aircraft to original Soviet bases.

So, I guess I'm wondering what the benefit of flipping the flag of those bases is. Apologies if I missed a discussion on this.

Cheers,
CC

Those bases are in Manchuko, not original Soviet territory, so they can support American and British Beasts.

Yeah - not sure if it was mentioned earlier - I remember there was a code change on basing non-Soviet air units (and ships??) in original Soviet bases. Basically forbidden (& ships interned??). Is that right?

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

ORIGINAL: Commander Cody

Regarding the American-flagged bases in Manchuria, I have a game going where I have U.S. aircraft flying missions from Soviet-flagged bases in Korea and Manchuria. Interestingly, I cannot transfer U.S. aircraft to original Soviet bases.

So, I guess I'm wondering what the benefit of flipping the flag of those bases is. Apologies if I missed a discussion on this.

Cheers,
CC

Those bases are in Manchuko, not original Soviet territory, so they can support American and British Beasts.

Yeah - not sure if it was mentioned earlier - I remember there was a code change on basing non-Soviet air units (and ships??) in original Soviet bases. Basically forbidden (& ships interned??). Is that right?

No...that is not totally correct. I don't think the code was ever fully fleshed out and way back when Soviets first got activated Alfred put up lots of links and commentary on it as well as a few others. There are very noticeable holes/workarounds/exploits. Chose the word that works for you.[;)]

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

ORIGINAL: witpqs

ORIGINAL: Lowpe




Those bases are in Manchuko, not original Soviet territory, so they can support American and British Beasts.

Yeah - not sure if it was mentioned earlier - I remember there was a code change on basing non-Soviet air units (and ships??) in original Soviet bases. Basically forbidden (& ships interned??). Is that right?

No...that is not totally correct. I don't think the code was ever fully fleshed out and way back when Soviets first got activated Alfred put up lots of links and commentary on it as well as a few others. There are very noticeable holes/workarounds/exploits. Chose the word that works for you.[;)]

Ah - OK. Intent (/attempt) is clear so I can behave as "I can't do that" and all is well.

[Lowpe]

April 15, 1942

Sweeping the Rooskies to good effect.

[Lowpe]

Two small, under-escorted strikes against some tankers. Sink one and an escort, but lose too many planes.

[Lowpe]

Fortress Heiho holds for now.

[Lowpe]

April 16, 1942

Expensive day in the air as the sweeps didn't fly, and some Nells went in first. Sank an AM.[;)]

[Lowpe]

Bad day for Nells, they had to fly so far, what are the odds of them arriving first?

[Lowpe]

April 17, 1942

80 Oscars fly into Heiho, the besieged city, and they know they will be fighting against the dreaded Mig-3, in large numbers, perhaps as many as 80. The Mig-3 outclasses them so much, it isn't funny, but Japan needs to get to the bombers, needs to slow the Soviet juggernaut down.

They are willing to meet this order.

The first sweep arrives, and a Mig is actually shot down...perhaps the first air to air loss this entire war.



The Migs came in high, ungodly high, while the Oscars were layered between 9k to 14K to better hit the bombers, and where they could juke, dodge and dance.

[Lowpe]

The Migs come in another fragmented wave, and then the Oscars are still in the air when the bombers arrive.

A lot of waves have the Mig flying with other planes, other fighters (perhaps LRCAP), and sometimes they are the only escorts.

I think because the Migs were paired up with such slowpokes, their performance was a disgrace. They should have eaten Oscar alive and asked for more.

Instead, Instead...

[Lowpe]

A very nice day in the air with very inferior planes. The Soviets threw 56 Migs at the Oscars today...and because of their orders (I am guessing here) they significantly under-performed but still accounted for the lion share of Oscar losses on the day. If the Soviets would have started off with three sweeps of 18 Migs each....it would have been ugly.

[Lowpe]

Rufe...on my way to having 90 flying. I think I should have bumped the production level a little higher from 30 as I do plan on using them pretty aggressively. Especially in this game.

[Lowpe]

April 18, 1942

Manchuko

[Lowpe]

The cold north

Several days ago, a freshly repaired battleship bombarded the American's at Attu, and did decent squad damage but didn't damage the runways at all.

[Drakanel]

Base envy. Hrmm, maybe you're playing for the wrong team then [:D]

Play the allies and ALL those worries will go away[:'(]

[Lowpe]

April 19, 1942

Wenchow falls, freeing up 4 divisions and 2 hq. Whew.