10/22/42
NoPac: Nine days until winter sets in. No sign of imminent enemy counterinvasion, but I still think it's gotta come. If it doesn't, I will send a peace "feeler" to Steve. If he isn't going to fight for the Kuriles, where he has every advantage, the war just needs to end.
DEI: More troop convoys inbound to Oosthaven. Everything looks good for the Allies on Sumatra and the key bases in and on the Java Sea. Allied fighters chewed up a bunch of Zeroes over Padang. Things do not look good for Japan.
Burma: The Allies have another 160 AV on the way to Toungoo - 140 of which is fully prepped for the base. Barring a surprise, this will be enough to take the base. ETA for the next attack is about one week.
Tokyo Rose was a Hussy! Chez (J) vs. Canoe (A)
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10/23/42
The "Struggle" Against Japan: No changes anywhere. Everything continues to look good for the Allies.
Why this Game is Over: In his halting advance across the DEI, Steve left many bases under Allied control. That's a mistake the Allies are taking advantage of in occupying key outposts like Billiton, Ketapang and Pontianak.
Sambas, a base between the Japanese garrisons at Singkawang and Kuching, is another that Steve didn't take. The Allies have held this base with nine air support personnel - nothing else - since early 1942. A single Japanese AV could have marched in from Singkawang in five days via the yellow road and captured it. But it has lanquished in Allied hands for much of 1942.
I figured Steve was at least keeping tabs on the base to make sure the Allies weren't reinforcing on the sly. But today, after a year of ignoring the base, Steve sent an air attack (copied and pasted below) that indicates he had no idea what the Allies have at the base. He must have just noticed there was a garrison, deduced that the Allies had just occupied the base and were about to build it, and figured that it posed a big threat to Singkawang and Kuching. IE, he has ignored this base for months. You can't do things like this and a PBEM match.
Morning Air attack on Sambas , at 57,88
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 27
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 93
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 26
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Port hits 8
Port supply hits 2
The "Struggle" Against Japan: No changes anywhere. Everything continues to look good for the Allies.
Why this Game is Over: In his halting advance across the DEI, Steve left many bases under Allied control. That's a mistake the Allies are taking advantage of in occupying key outposts like Billiton, Ketapang and Pontianak.
Sambas, a base between the Japanese garrisons at Singkawang and Kuching, is another that Steve didn't take. The Allies have held this base with nine air support personnel - nothing else - since early 1942. A single Japanese AV could have marched in from Singkawang in five days via the yellow road and captured it. But it has lanquished in Allied hands for much of 1942.
I figured Steve was at least keeping tabs on the base to make sure the Allies weren't reinforcing on the sly. But today, after a year of ignoring the base, Steve sent an air attack (copied and pasted below) that indicates he had no idea what the Allies have at the base. He must have just noticed there was a garrison, deduced that the Allies had just occupied the base and were about to build it, and figured that it posed a big threat to Singkawang and Kuching. IE, he has ignored this base for months. You can't do things like this and a PBEM match.
Morning Air attack on Sambas , at 57,88
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 27
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 93
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 26
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Port hits 8
Port supply hits 2
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RE: Das darf nicht var sein!
No, the game still goes on. Steve hasn't even hinted at giving up.
As stated previously, I intend to approach him on November 1, game time, if he hasn't by then counterinvaded Onnekotan Jima and Paramushiro Jima. That, to me, would indicate that he truly has no idea of how to try something - anything - to make the game a contest. His apparent misconstruing of Sambas will be additional evidence I will cite in this regard. Two other major things that just shouldn't have happened in the game: Leaving IJA divisions in China isolated so that they can be mauled one or two at a time, time after time after time; and getting IJA divisions truly isolated for no reason at Magwe and Padang.
As stated previously, I intend to approach him on November 1, game time, if he hasn't by then counterinvaded Onnekotan Jima and Paramushiro Jima. That, to me, would indicate that he truly has no idea of how to try something - anything - to make the game a contest. His apparent misconstruing of Sambas will be additional evidence I will cite in this regard. Two other major things that just shouldn't have happened in the game: Leaving IJA divisions in China isolated so that they can be mauled one or two at a time, time after time after time; and getting IJA divisions truly isolated for no reason at Magwe and Padang.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
RE: Das darf nicht var sein!
A great AAR and implemented strategy, I hope you have another one in you in the near future.
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RE: Das darf nicht var sein!
He really seems to have given up. How much time is it taking to get a turn back?
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RE: Das darf nicht var sein!
We're still maintaining our usual pace of about a turn a day.
I could be wrong in my interpretation of Steve's air raid on Sambas. I don't think so, but it's possible. But, there are so many things going on in the game, and for long, long stretches of time, that just shouldn't be happening. Those things taken together lead me to wonder about Steve's focus.
I could be wrong in my interpretation of Steve's air raid on Sambas. I don't think so, but it's possible. But, there are so many things going on in the game, and for long, long stretches of time, that just shouldn't be happening. Those things taken together lead me to wonder about Steve's focus.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
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10/24/42
Sambas, Borneo (or Sarawak or someplace on that big island...):
Refer to my post for the 23rd and you'll understand why the following attack on Sambas made me laugh. The Japanese are really roughing up the nine support squads at this base....
Morning Air attack on Sambas , at 57,88
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 27
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 121
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 26
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged
Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Port hits 19
Port supply hits 5
South China Sea: Seadragon reports BB Kirishima and CAs Tone and Takao near Cam Ranh Bay. This is very useful intel. Japan is bringing in some heavyweights. The Allies will take some losses when the Japanese come in swinging, but it's too late now.
DEI: The Allies continue to make good progress in bringing reinforcements and supply forward from Oosthaven to the Java Sea rim bases. It won't be long now - perhaps just a few weeks, before the Allies can begin to draw down the Sumatra garrison to move forward in a big way. I think Singkawang, Borneo, and Merak, Java are the two highest priority targets.
NoPac: No sign of imminent enemy counterinvasion. From the perspective of the Allies, this is great. From the perspective of competition in a PBEM game, this is lamentable.
Sambas, Borneo (or Sarawak or someplace on that big island...):
Refer to my post for the 23rd and you'll understand why the following attack on Sambas made me laugh. The Japanese are really roughing up the nine support squads at this base....
Morning Air attack on Sambas , at 57,88
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 27
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 121
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 26
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged
Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Port hits 19
Port supply hits 5
South China Sea: Seadragon reports BB Kirishima and CAs Tone and Takao near Cam Ranh Bay. This is very useful intel. Japan is bringing in some heavyweights. The Allies will take some losses when the Japanese come in swinging, but it's too late now.
DEI: The Allies continue to make good progress in bringing reinforcements and supply forward from Oosthaven to the Java Sea rim bases. It won't be long now - perhaps just a few weeks, before the Allies can begin to draw down the Sumatra garrison to move forward in a big way. I think Singkawang, Borneo, and Merak, Java are the two highest priority targets.
NoPac: No sign of imminent enemy counterinvasion. From the perspective of the Allies, this is great. From the perspective of competition in a PBEM game, this is lamentable.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
RE: Das darf nicht var sein!
6 days and counting until some decision making.
As always, your use of good planning and solid tactics would most likely render any attempts to react in the DEI somewhat futile. In the Kuriles I think it's somewhat different, as you state, and he would have a good chance to retake the area.
As you have a date set to say something, I wonder if a quick SCTF raid or if possible a 4E raid into enemy territory before Nov 1 might punctuate the point that this game is no longer competitive.
As always, your use of good planning and solid tactics would most likely render any attempts to react in the DEI somewhat futile. In the Kuriles I think it's somewhat different, as you state, and he would have a good chance to retake the area.
As you have a date set to say something, I wonder if a quick SCTF raid or if possible a 4E raid into enemy territory before Nov 1 might punctuate the point that this game is no longer competitive.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill
RE: Das darf nicht var sein!
render any attempts to react in the DEI somewhat futile.
While most likely correct here, it does remind me of the BORG and it never turned out well for them.....
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By throwing everything at the Allies in the DEI, Japan can certainly wreak some havoc and slow the Allied advance to a crawl. It's still 1942 and the Allies need some time to marshal the forces that could go head-to-head with the full might of the Japanese military. I'm aware that it is still within Steve's power to control stymie the Allied advance for quite some time.
Why, then, am I looking to November 1 as a date important enough to approach Steve about continuing the game? Several reasons:
1. The Allied bases in the Kuriles are potentially lethal to Japan. Right now, those bases are vulnerable, exposed, and relatively weakly garrisoned. Steve has had it within his power to counterinvade and take these islands ever since the invasions took place in March 1942. If he fails to act by November 1, winter sets in. Under cover of adverse winter weather, the Allies will almost certainly be able to reinforce strongly, bringing in tons of supply, and building forts, airfield and port to maximum levels. Steve won't be able to counterinvade by the time winter ends. That leaves a dagger at his throat, forcing him to commit alot more ships, planes and men to defend Hokkaido and Sikhalin Island lest the Allies pull a GreyJoy. Put it this way - he's spent seven months with carriers, battleships, cruisers, and lots of aircraft committed to a region that he really shouldn't have had to defend in strength at all. It's a peril and committment that's just totally unnecessary.
2. While Steve can stymie Allied expansion in the DEI for quite some time by fully committing forces, he can no longer take the eastern Sumatra bases. Even Billiton Island and the two Bangka Island bases are almost beyond his reach now. Ketapang and Pontianak will be too strong within two weeks. And Singkawang will probably fall within a month if he continues to hold to his current course. If the Allies can take the latter base and then build out the airfields at Sing, Keta, and Ponti, the game ends. Western Sumatra, Burma, Singapore, Miri, Brunei, Balikpan, Batavia fall within easy range of Allied bombers, Japanese shipping is vulnerable, and the already low sources of oil become even more meager.
3. There has been a consistent pattern of neglect: failure to seize key unoccupied bases all over the place, but especially in the DEI (thus allowing the Allies to easily occupy and build Ndeni, Milne Bay, Pontianak, Ketapang, Billiton, Toboali, and Muntok, with other bases to follow); getting multiple divisions truly cut off and isolated in Sumatra and Burma; and allowing ten divisions to be mauled piecemeal, one or two at a time, in China over the course of six months.
Steve is a good sport and I think he's certainly capable of playing the game well. I just think the overall pattern shows that his heart and mind aren't in this game. A failure to invade the Kuriles in the next seven days would be proof positive in my book.
Why, then, am I looking to November 1 as a date important enough to approach Steve about continuing the game? Several reasons:
1. The Allied bases in the Kuriles are potentially lethal to Japan. Right now, those bases are vulnerable, exposed, and relatively weakly garrisoned. Steve has had it within his power to counterinvade and take these islands ever since the invasions took place in March 1942. If he fails to act by November 1, winter sets in. Under cover of adverse winter weather, the Allies will almost certainly be able to reinforce strongly, bringing in tons of supply, and building forts, airfield and port to maximum levels. Steve won't be able to counterinvade by the time winter ends. That leaves a dagger at his throat, forcing him to commit alot more ships, planes and men to defend Hokkaido and Sikhalin Island lest the Allies pull a GreyJoy. Put it this way - he's spent seven months with carriers, battleships, cruisers, and lots of aircraft committed to a region that he really shouldn't have had to defend in strength at all. It's a peril and committment that's just totally unnecessary.
2. While Steve can stymie Allied expansion in the DEI for quite some time by fully committing forces, he can no longer take the eastern Sumatra bases. Even Billiton Island and the two Bangka Island bases are almost beyond his reach now. Ketapang and Pontianak will be too strong within two weeks. And Singkawang will probably fall within a month if he continues to hold to his current course. If the Allies can take the latter base and then build out the airfields at Sing, Keta, and Ponti, the game ends. Western Sumatra, Burma, Singapore, Miri, Brunei, Balikpan, Batavia fall within easy range of Allied bombers, Japanese shipping is vulnerable, and the already low sources of oil become even more meager.
3. There has been a consistent pattern of neglect: failure to seize key unoccupied bases all over the place, but especially in the DEI (thus allowing the Allies to easily occupy and build Ndeni, Milne Bay, Pontianak, Ketapang, Billiton, Toboali, and Muntok, with other bases to follow); getting multiple divisions truly cut off and isolated in Sumatra and Burma; and allowing ten divisions to be mauled piecemeal, one or two at a time, in China over the course of six months.
Steve is a good sport and I think he's certainly capable of playing the game well. I just think the overall pattern shows that his heart and mind aren't in this game. A failure to invade the Kuriles in the next seven days would be proof positive in my book.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
RE: Das darf nicht var sein!
Surprised you metioned Merak. Do you really want to get into a protracted battle fro Java? Seems to me it would be better to just bypass the Japanese units there and create the world's largest POW camp there.
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Merak is lightly held right now. I have no doubt the Allies could take it if I had the troops in place. Once taken, I don't think Japan can retake it given the proximity of the huge Allied airfields at Oosthaven, etc. The advantage of taking Merak is that it secures the Sunda Straights, the critical passage that allows the Allies to move from Oosthaven into the Java Sea.
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RE: Das darf nicht var sein!
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Merak is lightly held right now. I have no doubt the Allies could take it if I had the troops in place. Once taken, I don't think Japan can retake it given the proximity of the huge Allied airfields at Oosthaven, etc. The advantage of taking Merak is that it secures the Sunda Straights, the critical passage that allows the Allies to move from Oosthaven into the Java Sea.
My concern is that it could become the giant sucking sound that eats up all your forward momentum. Its not like he can just jump the Strait from Merak to Oosthaven. You could probably land and take Merak quite quickly. Chez could then rail in a huge force to Batavia and force you to divert you LBA to protect the beachhead or withdraw. So, my thinking is unless you have intentions to make a full force assault on Java, best to just leave it alone
JOMHO.
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It has surprised me to this point that the Allies haven't needed Merak. Allied access to the Java Sea through the Sunda Straight has been unimpeded. So Merak hasn't been a priority. But I keep worrying that something might happen to change the equation.
I can tell you this, though. A strong Allied lodgement in Merak would probably draw far more attention from Japan than the Allies would need to commit. IE, I think it would prove more of a distraction to Japan than the Allies. If Japan were to mount a huge campaign for the base, the Allies would in all likelihood shrug and use the diversion to advance elsewhere.
I can tell you this, though. A strong Allied lodgement in Merak would probably draw far more attention from Japan than the Allies would need to commit. IE, I think it would prove more of a distraction to Japan than the Allies. If Japan were to mount a huge campaign for the base, the Allies would in all likelihood shrug and use the diversion to advance elsewhere.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
RE: Das darf nicht var sein!
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It has surprised me to this point that the Allies haven't needed Merak. Allied access to the Java Sea through the Sunda Straight has been unimpeded. So Merak hasn't been a priority. But I keep worrying that something might happen to change the equation.
I can tell you this, though. A strong Allied lodgement in Merak would probably draw far more attention from Japan than the Allies would need to commit. IE, I think it would prove more of a distraction to Japan than the Allies. If Japan were to mount a huge campaign for the base, the Allies would in all likelihood shrug and use the diversion to advance elsewhere.
Once again this seems to have descended into a Vicini/Man in Black-esque dialog. (truly, you intellect is amazing) I suppose you've built up immunity to iocane powder also
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The Princess Bride has taken on legendary status in my family. We heard about the movie for years. Everybody - included beloved family members who have impeccable taste - loves it. Finally, my family of five (dad, mom, three children who then ranged in age from about 14 to about 8) sat down to watch it. All five of us hated it. Nobody believed us. So we started a tradition of asking everybody we met, "Do you like Princess Bride"? Over the years, we've only found about three or four other folks that feel the same way about it that we do. It was so refreshing to find these few, and they were so much like us in temperment, that we felt like adopting them.
The Princess Bride has taken on legendary status in my family. We heard about the movie for years. Everybody - included beloved family members who have impeccable taste - loves it. Finally, my family of five (dad, mom, three children who then ranged in age from about 14 to about 8) sat down to watch it. All five of us hated it. Nobody believed us. So we started a tradition of asking everybody we met, "Do you like Princess Bride"? Over the years, we've only found about three or four other folks that feel the same way about it that we do. It was so refreshing to find these few, and they were so much like us in temperment, that we felt like adopting them.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
RE: Das darf nicht var sein!
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The Princess Bride has taken on legendary status in my family. We heard about the movie for years. Everybody - included beloved family members who have impeccable taste - loves it. Finally, my family of five (dad, mom, three children who then ranged in age from about 14 to about 8) sat down to watch it. All five of us hated it. Nobody believed us. So we started a tradition of asking everybody we met, "Do you like Princess Bride"? Over the years, we've only found about three or four other folks that feel the same way about it that we do. It was so refreshing to find these few, and they were so much like us in temperment, that we felt like adopting them.
Wha,wha, what???? BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!!!!!! You prolly like The Movie Who's Name Shall Not Be Mentioned. I can't even talk to you right now.
(Unless.......would you happen to have six fingers on yor right hand?)
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RE: Das darf nicht var sein!
Dan, I share your enthusiasm, another creepy similarity between us.
BTW, aren't you supposed to AVOID a land war in Asia?
BTW, aren't you supposed to AVOID a land war in Asia?
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(Sniff...) I knew ye were a kindred spirit, ye Rebel Allied dog ye.ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
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The Princess Bride has taken on legendary status in my family. We heard about the movie for years. Everybody - included beloved family members who have impeccable taste - loves it. Finally, my family of five (dad, mom, three children who then ranged in age from about 14 to about 8) sat down to watch it. All five of us hated it. Nobody believed us. So we started a tradition of asking everybody we met, "Do you like Princess Bride"? Over the years, we've only found about three or four other folks that feel the same way about it that we do. It was so refreshing to find these few, and they were so much like us in temperment, that we felt like adopting them.
Wife LOVES Princess Bride. Quotes all manner of passages, has latest digital media version thereof, fawns over it with her friends. Early in our courtship, I was (forced?) "voluntarily" subjected to it. Being of honest and noble stock, I told her that I hated the movie afterwards.
In hindsight, such pure and clear honesty may not have been the most politic approach, considering the yoke of courtship that I was pulling. Then GF unit (now Wife Unit Mark 1, mod 0) suggested that I may have just been in a bad mood when I saw it and that I needed to see it again. I was (forced?) "voluntarily" subjected myself to it a second time. I told her that it still sucked.
We've moved on, have two lovely children and a happy life together. Much like politics (I'm a Republican, she's a Democrat), we try not to focus on those things in our lives that stoke conflict. The Princess Bride is one of those things that we have agreed to move past and get behind us for the sake of our marriage.
But the movie does blow chunks.
