Amis vs Aussies - World Domination(no jrcar or Tony)
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13-14 April 1942
Java
The IJA hit Bandoeng today will both Sally's from 9,000 feet and artillery from below. Even with the mountainous terrain we will able to inflict detectable casualties.
Selaroe
The "dot" North of Darwin received lots of attention from both sides. We shot down a bunch of unescorted bombers with the Baby Butai cover cap, but had 2 DDs banged up.
Haiphong
For some reason the Allied like to beat their heads on the walls around Haiphong. Today we shot down a big pile of AVG fighters with a combination of Tojo's and Oscars.
Burma
Unescorted B-17s rolled in today - we need heavier fighters to be able to dent them.
Luzon
Our main force has now advanced to Clark from Iba and we will first lay on a bombardment from Sally's in the air and artillery on the ground. We've been pounding the Allied units in the open up at Catobaran(sp?) (NE or Clark) so maybe they will be quiet for a day.
Java
The IJA hit Bandoeng today will both Sally's from 9,000 feet and artillery from below. Even with the mountainous terrain we will able to inflict detectable casualties.
Selaroe
The "dot" North of Darwin received lots of attention from both sides. We shot down a bunch of unescorted bombers with the Baby Butai cover cap, but had 2 DDs banged up.
Haiphong
For some reason the Allied like to beat their heads on the walls around Haiphong. Today we shot down a big pile of AVG fighters with a combination of Tojo's and Oscars.
Burma
Unescorted B-17s rolled in today - we need heavier fighters to be able to dent them.
Luzon
Our main force has now advanced to Clark from Iba and we will first lay on a bombardment from Sally's in the air and artillery on the ground. We've been pounding the Allied units in the open up at Catobaran(sp?) (NE or Clark) so maybe they will be quiet for a day.
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15-16 April 1942
Java
First "full" attack of 25 Army (still several units not in the battle hex) results not spectacular. We lost 1000 the Allies 700 - the good news is we did not attack the second day. The Sallys evened up the fight. Since we didn't attack the second day - we are in decent shape to attack again this turn - so we will go in again with full air support. The 21 IMB will join the attack this turn.
Luzon
Our forces bombarded by land and air at Clark this turn and we will go in this turn to test the defences.
Nanyang
Our pursuit seems to have caught up with 16 Chinese units NW of Nanyang, so we will try to attack them before they walk away. NW of Loyang we are trying to catch the other big stack of 7 units. If were we to clobber these stacks again it looks like there are tons of units back there in Sian. The Chinese hordes never end.
Java
First "full" attack of 25 Army (still several units not in the battle hex) results not spectacular. We lost 1000 the Allies 700 - the good news is we did not attack the second day. The Sallys evened up the fight. Since we didn't attack the second day - we are in decent shape to attack again this turn - so we will go in again with full air support. The 21 IMB will join the attack this turn.
Luzon
Our forces bombarded by land and air at Clark this turn and we will go in this turn to test the defences.
Nanyang
Our pursuit seems to have caught up with 16 Chinese units NW of Nanyang, so we will try to attack them before they walk away. NW of Loyang we are trying to catch the other big stack of 7 units. If were we to clobber these stacks again it looks like there are tons of units back there in Sian. The Chinese hordes never end.
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17-18 April 1942
Java
Two full days of attacks, we are wearing them down at Bandoeng, but casualties are heavy on both sides.
Luzon
Ditto at Clark.
Nanyang
Chinese held at the hex NW of Nanyang - casualties heavy on both sides. We will attack next turn in the hex West of Loyang, there is a stack of 7 units there.
Selaroe (DOT)
Uber PTs sank a CA here - but the 32nd Naval Infantry unit put in a good attack. We will send in the airborne tomorrow. Kinugasa will return to the party, and we'll have some bettys and baby butais as well.
Papua
Submarine transports are moving supplies to Lae and Buna until Admiral Nik-a-sama can return from his sick bed and resume command ...
Java
Two full days of attacks, we are wearing them down at Bandoeng, but casualties are heavy on both sides.
Luzon
Ditto at Clark.
Nanyang
Chinese held at the hex NW of Nanyang - casualties heavy on both sides. We will attack next turn in the hex West of Loyang, there is a stack of 7 units there.
Selaroe (DOT)
Uber PTs sank a CA here - but the 32nd Naval Infantry unit put in a good attack. We will send in the airborne tomorrow. Kinugasa will return to the party, and we'll have some bettys and baby butais as well.
Papua
Submarine transports are moving supplies to Lae and Buna until Admiral Nik-a-sama can return from his sick bed and resume command ...
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Joe;
Are the Uber Pt's going to be briough under control?
Are the Uber Pt's going to be briough under control?
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We've been trying [:D]
Actually I think it is better in patch 01, but recall this game is still running on 1080 (the release it started on).
Actually I think it is better in patch 01, but recall this game is still running on 1080 (the release it started on).
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Joe, are you going to update it to patch 2?
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Joe;
Are the Uber Pt's going to be briough under control?
PT's are much better in patch 2. I made sure of it. Its amazing what you can do with a Klondyke bar where programmers are concerned. [:D]
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Joe, are you going to update it to patch 2?
problem with updating is that our game employed some modifications to simulate future patch changes. So updating to the new patch could have adverse effects due to doubling of effect.
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Joe;
Are the Uber Pt's going to be briough under control?
PT's are much better in patch 2. I made sure of it. Its amazing what you can do with a Klondyke bar where programmers are concerned. [:D]
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19-20 April 1942
Solaroe (DOT)
Well our airborne attack (3 YOK) went in and did the trick - all Allied units surrendered. Kinugasa bombarded, Bettys attacked, Zeros from Baby Butai flew over head. But, while the dust is settling, I'm not sure whether "the battle" was better for us than "the victory". I was hoping to use the respite from Allied bombing of Timor to move in some engineers and aviation forces. Two convoys of such are on the way, but they have not unloaded yet.
Burma
Hordes of Allied fighters and bombers range over Burma from advanced airbases inside Burma. It will still be some time before we can set up sufficient infrastructure to support an air defense.
Luzon
Here things are looking up. At both Clark and Catabunga (sp?) we seem to have an advantage on the ground. We will press our attacks with full air support of 5 Sally Sentai, 2 Lily Sentai and 1 Ann Sentai.
China
The Chinese stack near Loyang was routed - we are pursuing - we might have a chance to cutoff the even larger stack that has us stalled out near Nanyang. In the South we are pursuing towards Puengo (sp?) and might be able to cutoff the stack that retreated from Wenchow.
Java
This was a "rest" turn for the maneuver forces at Bandoeng - artillery and air bombardments continued. I sent an infantry unit to Soerabaja to open up a supply line from Soerabaja to Madang for Nik's forces. Nik did attack this turn - casualties were about even.
Solaroe (DOT)
Well our airborne attack (3 YOK) went in and did the trick - all Allied units surrendered. Kinugasa bombarded, Bettys attacked, Zeros from Baby Butai flew over head. But, while the dust is settling, I'm not sure whether "the battle" was better for us than "the victory". I was hoping to use the respite from Allied bombing of Timor to move in some engineers and aviation forces. Two convoys of such are on the way, but they have not unloaded yet.
Burma
Hordes of Allied fighters and bombers range over Burma from advanced airbases inside Burma. It will still be some time before we can set up sufficient infrastructure to support an air defense.
Luzon
Here things are looking up. At both Clark and Catabunga (sp?) we seem to have an advantage on the ground. We will press our attacks with full air support of 5 Sally Sentai, 2 Lily Sentai and 1 Ann Sentai.
China
The Chinese stack near Loyang was routed - we are pursuing - we might have a chance to cutoff the even larger stack that has us stalled out near Nanyang. In the South we are pursuing towards Puengo (sp?) and might be able to cutoff the stack that retreated from Wenchow.
Java
This was a "rest" turn for the maneuver forces at Bandoeng - artillery and air bombardments continued. I sent an infantry unit to Soerabaja to open up a supply line from Soerabaja to Madang for Nik's forces. Nik did attack this turn - casualties were about even.
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21-22 April 1942
Java
Big day in Java. My (IJA player) 25 Army finally captured Bandoeng and captured 26K+ troops, thus ending Allied resistance on the Western (map North-ish) end of Java. I will now transfer the bulk of these forces to the Eastern (map South-ish) end of Java to break the mountain strong hold at Madang. The end is finally in sight for the Java campaign.
Luzon
Another milestone day on Luzon as IJA forces capture both Clark and Catabunga (sp?) destroying many of the American guns that kicked us out of Clark the first time. The Americans are choosing to hold up in Manilla and it will take some digging to get them out. But now we can easily capture Bataan and reduce their ability to bring in supplies.
Burma
Hordes of Hurricane "Buzzsaws" showed up again today. This time our performance was dramatically worse than before. Last time, we got 19 Buzzsaws in exchange for 1 Oscar. This time we only got 15 Buzzsaws and lost 5 Oscars. A 600% improvement for the Buzzsaws! We are continuing the slow strategy of spreading out our airbases, but it will take a number of weeks before even a rudimentary air defense will be set up.
Andaman
We captured Port Blair this turn against no opposition. This will provide some protection to the long convoy route from Singapore to Rangoon, but using this new route will make transfer of troops and supplies to Burma, more efficient.
Java
Big day in Java. My (IJA player) 25 Army finally captured Bandoeng and captured 26K+ troops, thus ending Allied resistance on the Western (map North-ish) end of Java. I will now transfer the bulk of these forces to the Eastern (map South-ish) end of Java to break the mountain strong hold at Madang. The end is finally in sight for the Java campaign.
Luzon
Another milestone day on Luzon as IJA forces capture both Clark and Catabunga (sp?) destroying many of the American guns that kicked us out of Clark the first time. The Americans are choosing to hold up in Manilla and it will take some digging to get them out. But now we can easily capture Bataan and reduce their ability to bring in supplies.
Burma
Hordes of Hurricane "Buzzsaws" showed up again today. This time our performance was dramatically worse than before. Last time, we got 19 Buzzsaws in exchange for 1 Oscar. This time we only got 15 Buzzsaws and lost 5 Oscars. A 600% improvement for the Buzzsaws! We are continuing the slow strategy of spreading out our airbases, but it will take a number of weeks before even a rudimentary air defense will be set up.
Andaman
We captured Port Blair this turn against no opposition. This will provide some protection to the long convoy route from Singapore to Rangoon, but using this new route will make transfer of troops and supplies to Burma, more efficient.
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Whoaaa in my game with Treespider he droped the idea of sending his planes where my Hurricanes and AVG was present as it was realy bad for health of Oscar pilots and Zeros didn't do much better[:D][:D][:D] Any way we are restarting our game under Path 2 so i wonder will i be able to do some damage to Tree evil empire this time... i just hope Force Z will survive:)

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Yeah I'm curious why Tree's experience is so different from ours regarding the "Buzzsaws". I have a theory, but have not had time to do validation testing.
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What is it???[:D]

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We think it is range - more specifically enhanced annenuation effects for fighters flying at longer and longer ranges. I think Tree sees "Buzzsaw" Hurricane's when HE is flying sweeps - whereas I see reverse Buzzsaw's when the Hurricane's are flying sweeps against me.
At first I thought maybe Tree liking to fly at 80,000 feet might be part of the issue and it might be - but I do not think it is the primary issue. I am flying at mostly 10,000 to 15,000 feet.
At first I thought maybe Tree liking to fly at 80,000 feet might be part of the issue and it might be - but I do not think it is the primary issue. I am flying at mostly 10,000 to 15,000 feet.
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Altitude seems to be a pretty important factor, I think Tree commented his losses got better when he got to more reasonable altitudes and I've seen other posts of Zeroes and Oscars getting slaughtered at high altitude. That said, range might have a pretty important effect as well. Tree's losses were better with another altitude, but still around 1 to 1, not these kind of victories your pulling off.
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What is it???[:D]
At what altitude is he using his Hurricanes? There were many posts already that the best thing you can do is using your fighters on max ceiling. The one that can go higher usually won with abnormal kill rates. Regarding those posts, AE created more or less stratosphere fighter clashes.
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At what altitude is he using his Hurricanes? There were many posts already that the best thing you can do is using your fighters on max ceiling. The one that can go higher usually won with abnormal kill rates. Regarding those posts, AE created more or less stratosphere fighter clashes.
if this question is directed at me - it seems that my opponents (Tony I think) are flying their buzzsaws at about 10K as well - at least that is the altitude we are fighting at.
I've seen all the posts about high altitude effects - I just can't say our testing validates those ideas - hence I've shifted my thinking to range as the primary culprit for what I'm seeing in our game.
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23-24 April 1942
Actually one of the more uneventful turns we've had so far. In Java, 25 Army is redeploying towards the Eastern Mountain redoubt at Madang. In Luzon we are preparing to enter the Manilla hex, in China we are working to attack a big (16 unit) stack that continues to remain near Nanyang, in Burma we are continuing to work to spread out our fighter defense.
Actually one of the more uneventful turns we've had so far. In Java, 25 Army is redeploying towards the Eastern Mountain redoubt at Madang. In Luzon we are preparing to enter the Manilla hex, in China we are working to attack a big (16 unit) stack that continues to remain near Nanyang, in Burma we are continuing to work to spread out our fighter defense.
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At what altitude is he using his Hurricanes? There were many posts already that the best thing you can do is using your fighters on max ceiling. The one that can go higher usually won with abnormal kill rates. Regarding those posts, AE created more or less stratosphere fighter clashes.
if this question is directed at me - it seems that my opponents (Tony I think) are flying their buzzsaws at about 10K as well - at least that is the altitude we are fighting at.
I've seen all the posts about high altitude effects - I just can't say our testing validates those ideas - hence I've shifted my thinking to range as the primary culprit for what I'm seeing in our game.
thanks for the clarification. I wondered about those posts about these high alt sweep missions but as I´m only into AI games yet I haven´t found out myself. Usually most of the exploits are something you won´t get to know before you start PBEM. [:D]




