A look at Barbarossa. (AAR)
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RE: A look at Barbarossa.
It look likes it all will depend how long the fine weather holds. Well. I'll see in two weeks time how things have progressed, since I'm going on holiday tomorrow...
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RE: A look at Barbarossa.
Enjoy your holiday!
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RE: A look at Barbarossa.
Since the mighty German only needs more 4 cites to win and Kursk and Bryansik are already in grave danger. I can only see: Bad weather, Russian hero cites or some last minute brilliant counter strike that might stop them. Barbarossa scenario is Hard for the Russians.
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RE: A look at Barbarossa.
If you retook this picture using lower resolution for the units, the numbers would be easier to read.ORIGINAL: Red Prince
Here is an overview of the full battlefield at Zoom Level 2. At the far right-hand side, along the edge of the image, you can see the where the separation is between European-Map Russia and Asian-Map Russia.
Picture taken at end of Axis impulse #1, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)
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RE: A look at Barbarossa.
That's why they pay you the big bucks, eh? [:)]

Here it is at the lower resolution, then:ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
If you retook this picture using lower resolution for the units, the numbers would be easier to read.ORIGINAL: Red Prince
Here is an overview of the full battlefield at Zoom Level 2. At the far right-hand side, along the edge of the image, you can see the where the separation is between European-Map Russia and Asian-Map Russia.
Picture taken at end of Axis impulse #1, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa.
I decide to try to resupply my 2nd Guards Garrison located in Kalinin. Germany was not so fond of that so there was an air combat. But fortunately fo me the air transport cleared and reorganized the garrison.


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RE: A look at Barbarossa.
Here is the north part of the front.

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RE: A look at Barbarossa.
I did not like how how things looked. Finding no decent defence line without surrendering to many cities. Finding no nice counterattacks that I could make without leaving myself open to encirclement.
In the end I decided to chance on bad weather. It is 60% chance for bad weather after all. So I make a forward defence but around potential hero cities. But I do feel like I must have bad weather for this to work. I do not like to play this way but I see no other way to have a chance to win...
The central part of the front.

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In the end I decided to chance on bad weather. It is 60% chance for bad weather after all. So I make a forward defence but around potential hero cities. But I do feel like I must have bad weather for this to work. I do not like to play this way but I see no other way to have a chance to win...
The central part of the front.

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RE: A look at Barbarossa.
The south front.

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RE: A look at Barbarossa.
And at last a look at Crimea area.
Edit: I moved another unit out of Sevastapol. Desperate times...

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Edit: I moved another unit out of Sevastapol. Desperate times...

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RE: A look at Barbarossa.
At last a close picture on the Bryansk part of the front.

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RE: A look at Barbarossa.
If you wondered why Orm talked so much about the weather, it's because he knew something that has not been revealed yet: I got lucky, indeed!
This is the Weather roll form, and also a look at the Global Map on its weather setting. All of that bright yellow means clear skies and a late autumn.
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Edit: Sadly, Orm tells me that autumn has already begun not too far north of where he lives. I'll bet he'd like to swap this weather roll for the real thing.

Picture taken at start of Axis impulse #3, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)
This is the Weather roll form, and also a look at the Global Map on its weather setting. All of that bright yellow means clear skies and a late autumn.
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Edit: Sadly, Orm tells me that autumn has already begun not too far north of where he lives. I'll bet he'd like to swap this weather roll for the real thing.

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RE: A look at Barbarossa.
Ack. The weather, the weather...
I feel... well, not happy.
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I feel... well, not happy.

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RE: A look at Barbarossa.
I need to really take advantage of the good weather, so I plan 2 Ground Strikes, one on Kursk, and another attempt to nail Zhukov, this time stacked with 2 other units in Bryansk. I sent my best fighter to defend my bombers at Kursk, since I can't intercept the inevetible Russian interception there.
Even though the odds are +3/-3 in my favor, I send the lonely I-16 on Orm's behalf to defend Kursk. He has to do what he can to keep me from capturing the city. This time I am again lucky, shooting the pilot right out of his cockpit:

Picture taken at Air-to-Air Combat Digression, Ground Strike, of Axis impulse #3, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)
Even though the odds are +3/-3 in my favor, I send the lonely I-16 on Orm's behalf to defend Kursk. He has to do what he can to keep me from capturing the city. This time I am again lucky, shooting the pilot right out of his cockpit:

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RE: A look at Barbarossa.
And then I am unlucky. I am guessing that drinking is rampant among my bomber pilots. All game, I haven't had a really nice Ground Strike. There go my plans to attack Kursk this impulse. [:(]

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RE: A look at Barbarossa.
The other strike, which could not be intercepted, again only nailed 1 of 3 units in the hex, but this time it was Zhukov! This guy earns himself a medal!

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RE: A look at Barbarossa.
I decided to make 4 attacks in the Fine impulse, possibly my last chance at regular odds ratios. It seemed time to take back Pskov; before defensive Ground Support, this was a 5:1 attack.

Picture taken at Defensive Ground Support, Return to Base Digression, of Axis impulse #3, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa.
Between Bryansk and Kursk, I decided to try to really make a hole in the lines, instead of attempting to take one of the cities just yet. That attack had a very good shot at being 7:1, before Defensive Ground Support (55:8 +1).
South of Kursk, I'm trying to round the corner. This attack began as a 5:1 +2 (39.5:7) with a 70% chance for 6:1.

Picture taken at Defensive Ground Support, Return to Base Digression, of Axis impulse #3, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)
South of Kursk, I'm trying to round the corner. This attack began as a 5:1 +2 (39.5:7) with a 70% chance for 6:1.

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RE: A look at Barbarossa.
And my last attack of the impulse is nominated for the "Stupid Move of the Game" award. This was a 3:1, with the goal being to discourage Orm from using one of his bombers for another attack. Well, he surprised me by using all of his available bombers for Ground Support, turning this into a lame 3:2 Assault. Who knows, I could get lucky . . .

Picture taken at Defensive Ground Support, Return to Base Digression, of Axis impulse #3, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa.
So, here are the final odds:
Pskov is 3:1
North of Kursk, it's 3:1 +1, with a 2 in 3 chance of 4:1 +1
South of Kursk, it's 3:1 +2, with ajust about a 60% chance of 4:1 +2
And that ugly Krasnodar attack is, of course, 3:2

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Pskov is 3:1
North of Kursk, it's 3:1 +1, with a 2 in 3 chance of 4:1 +1
South of Kursk, it's 3:1 +2, with ajust about a 60% chance of 4:1 +2
And that ugly Krasnodar attack is, of course, 3:2

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