Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

18th Div reinforcements isn't even on the map yet...

I vaguely recall some coastal defence units showing up on map fairly early in the India OOB. Not sure if this mod kept them. There are also some fresh Indian Divisions raised that show up at Madras, but that might be a couple of months away. Check your reinforcements list.

[mind_messing]

ORIGINAL: Encircled

Hells bells, in this mod he can cut India off from the Gulf and Aden really easily

Indian Bdes have small Engineer components and you get a few at the start (in this mod I have no idea, but you do in stock)

Look on the bright side, you only need 100 days and they will be fully prepped for defence, but still have appalling exp and equipment............

Yeah, agreed. Not quite sure I like that decision from a balance perspective...

[RangerJoe]

Too bad that you do not have float Stringbags, there was one that was tested. [X(]

[Encircled]

Thing is, you are going to need the 18th in India, and even that isn't fully equipped or trained

I think you get a very good Aus Div in Aden in early Jan

I just don't know where you get the troops, engineers, aircraft, tanks and ships to defend that part of the map, without weakening India even more than it is already.

Unless you really gamble and start shipping Aus units from Oz from Perth, but that is obviously very, very risky

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe


American troops have been moving from Dec 8th for the East Coast, and the first unit, a base force, arrived today.

It is 44 days to Cape Town, then what, another 2-3 weeks to India. There is not enough time.

Maybe, not, but maybe yes.

That you are going to lose some territory in India is foregone, like the DS later you cannot really stop the IJ from any port hex assault. BUT, inland is different. It isn't just the coastal cities that will kill you, its all those resource rich bases north of Calcutta. Deny him those AND don't lose too many units and you avoid AV.

As the US troops arrive, put them into blocking points. Your real challenge is going to be CAP, getting enough fighters, but again, the idea is to drain the IJ. The more exchange, the more difficult it is for him to attain AV.

We know the IJ. The achilles heel is always thus, he can't afford to trade, he has to buy it cheap. Make him pay and that avoids AV; it also sets up the ultimate defeat that much sooner.

Of course easier said than done. The strategy is fairly obvious, the tactics to achieve? That's your domain. [;)]

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[RangerJoe]

But just like a kidney stone, all of these problems will pass even if it is painful.

[Lowpe]

So, if I put these 8 Sims class destroyers on flank speed, they will show up in good order in Cape Town pretty quickly?

I remember Giants or Bullwinkle advocating all off map travel should be flank speed...

How about Queen Elizabeth to LA, pick up elements of the 40th or 41st division, whichever is there, and from LA to Panama Canal to Capetown? Is that the fastest transit from the right edge to the left edge?

[mind_messing]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

So, if I put these 8 Sims class destroyers on flank speed, they will show up in good order in Cape Town pretty quickly?

I remember Giants or Bullwinkle advocating all off map travel should be flank speed...

How about Queen Elizabeth to LA, pick up elements of the 40th or 41st division, whichever is there, and from LA to Panama Canal to Capetown? Is that the fastest transit from the right edge to the left edge?

Marginal savings, I would think, versus just strat moving the 40th/41st to East Coast then moving to CT.

The main advantage of this would be no need to pay PP's for the divisions until they had arrived at CT. Plenty of other things to spend PP on in the meantime.

[Evoken]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

So, if I put these 8 Sims class destroyers on flank speed, they will show up in good order in Cape Town pretty quickly?

I remember Giants or Bullwinkle advocating all off map travel should be flank speed...

How about Queen Elizabeth to LA, pick up elements of the 40th or 41st division, whichever is there, and from LA to Panama Canal to Capetown? Is that the fastest transit from the right edge to the left edge?

Be carefull of not using full speed while sending ships from on map to off map. Off map to off map full speed is fine ; for example East Coast to Capetown , Panama to Capetown etc .

I forgot US carriers on full speed once and got them stranded in off map limbo for quite a while [X(]

[Lowpe]

Pax,

I got the air force moving on Dec 8th, and quite a slug of it will arrive in 30 days at Cape Town.

I am going to recon Bangkok tomorrow, and see what is there. I can potentially hit it hard....

[Lowpe]

So those CD unit are four 6" Guns...useful, but not something to write home about.

Here is the list of British/Indian reinforcements.

If I lose the base they spawn in, then it is additional delay and spawning in Aden I think or is it Cape Town?

[Lowpe]

M-M is right about shipping from LA to Panama to Cape Town...they need to be free units.[:(]

So I need to calculate out what my PP future usage will be needed as American troops arrive in Cape Town and be prepared.

Here is a list of troops at sea...headed to Suva is the American 34th Rgt & friends off Hawaii...the British off map reinforcements don't show up on this list.

In two days at most, I need to start allocating Catalina squadrons to tracking the India/Oz invasion from the Java area..which means they can't do naval strike or transport troops.

Big priority though will be air lifting out the HQc III Indian Corp from Malaya to India....it can really add to the defense, but where? Calcutta? Bombay? Madras? Viz?

[Lowpe]

Ok, I am totally stripping Ceylon now...I think an invasion here is likely in less than two weeks.[X(]

I think I have taken Ceylon with as little as three divisions in mid 42...just can't hold it, can't risk letting Japan get all the fuel and supplies...so if I could burn the docks and salt the earth I would do it.

[RangerJoe]

The units will spawn at Aden. You will probably have to move fuel there for all of the ships. I would not move supplies out of Aden, have your off map and North American bases build everything up.

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

The units will spawn at Aden. You will probably have to move fuel there for all of the ships. I would not move supplies out of Aden, have your off map and North American bases build everything up.

Thanks, interesting point about supply at Aden. I have a supply convoy enroute to Oz...think I will divert them to India instead.

[Lowpe]

Sometimes, you need to give up on defense and understand quickly what is next on the plate...and I think using Benkoelen and Padang as naval search bastions to spot a super early invasion from the Batavia area is critically important. Sabang too perhaps.

If I spot the KB and Oilers swinging up this way for example, better to know now, than 7-10 hexes off Ceylon. Don't you think?

I am giving serious thought to buying some armor from Oz and sending it up to India...but if the KB swings west of Sumatra! Well, that could be bad.

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: Evoken


Be carefull of not using full speed while sending ships from on map to off map. Off map to off map full speed is fine ; for example East Coast to Capetown , Panama to Capetown etc .

I forgot US carriers on full speed once and got them stranded in off map limbo for quite a while [X(]

Noted, thanks.

[RangerJoe]

Don't forget, you also have Cocos and Christmas Islands in the IO to spot ships coming that way. [;)] Just a few support squads from an HQa would suffice for them. Don't forget night Naval Search.

You will also get units at Mombassa later, check when they come in and have transports waiting for them.

[RangerJoe]

Also, a Dutch sub laid minefield at Sunda strait but NOT at Merak could also be nice. [:D]

[Lowpe]

Longer term, the next three weeks, thinking.



All these arrows are Japanese offensive thrusts possibilities. I need to counter some way, but perhaps not even here....