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Chris Carlson analysis of new Chinese shipyard.
Suspected to be a nuclear submarine shipyard, in the analysis is more probably a merchant ship module mounting installation:
Original article in The National Interest:
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/why ... ines-21631
Expanded article (24 pages) in The Admiral Trilogy website:
http://www.admiraltytrilogy.com/pdf/Bohai.pdf
Suspected to be a nuclear submarine shipyard, in the analysis is more probably a merchant ship module mounting installation:
Original article in The National Interest:
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/why ... ines-21631
Expanded article (24 pages) in The Admiral Trilogy website:
http://www.admiraltytrilogy.com/pdf/Bohai.pdf
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Even if the railway could support the weight of a completed submarine, there are several “roadblocks” at the western terminus that prevent the transfer of any large vessel into the dry dock. Google Earth imagery shows the rail lines end at a massive dry dock wall. This wall is about six meters wide and at least one meter tall—there is no way to move a large, very heavy vessel over this wall. Furthermore, there are no rail lines in the shallow slipway. This indicates that there is no way to directly transfer objects to the slipway by rail. -
The missing rails between the 6m gap has rumored been built by the end of June, and the facility construction doesn't seems completed entirely.
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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/08/07 ... -boat.html
Not sure what to make of this brief news report. But interesting never the less.
Kevin
Not sure what to make of this brief news report. But interesting never the less.
Kevin
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Read some where, our fearless Leader twatted this out, Intelligence Folks not happy?
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Some nice photos of Exercise Saxon Warrior off the coast of Scotland:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4771692/HMS-Queen-Elizabeth-sails-seas-alongside-ships.html
Note: Unfortunately the Daily Mail mislabelled the Norwegian warship: HNoMS Helge Ingstad. [:(] Apologies to our Scandinavian ally.

HMS Westminster seen from the USS Philippine Sea.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4771692/HMS-Queen-Elizabeth-sails-seas-alongside-ships.html
Note: Unfortunately the Daily Mail mislabelled the Norwegian warship: HNoMS Helge Ingstad. [:(] Apologies to our Scandinavian ally.

HMS Westminster seen from the USS Philippine Sea.
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“‘Who controls the past,’ ran the Party slogan, ‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.’”
George Orwell, 1984
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-north ... SKBN1AO2L9
Every day I want to release my new scenario for testing events overrun the premise!
What's a Command player to do?
Kevin
Every day I want to release my new scenario for testing events overrun the premise!
What's a Command player to do?
Kevin
“The study of history lies at the foundation of all sound military conclusions and practice.”
Alfred Thayer Mahan
Alfred Thayer Mahan
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The Egyptian Navy has taken delivery of S 42 (864), the second of four Type 209/1400 submarines, at the ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS) yard in Kiel.
http://www.janes.com/article/72972/second-type-209-sub-handed-over-to-egypt
Egypt is acquiring the boats to replace its ageing Romeo-class submarines.
Photos of the reception ceremony.

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Jane's take on the DF-31AG ICBM
http://www.janes.com/article/72971/df-3 ... tate-media
http://www.janes.com/article/72971/df-3 ... tate-media
Key Points
-Chinese media have suggested that China's DF-31AG ICBM could be armed with MIRV warheads
-The DF-31AG uses a 16-wheel road-capable TEL, widening its deployment options and thus increasing its survivability
While official Chinese sources have said almost nothing about the capabilities of the recently identified DF-31AG intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), Chinese state media have in recent days offered indications that it might be armed with multiple independently targetable re-entry vehicle (MIRV) warheads.
An aft image of the DF-31AG ICBM shows the use of a prominent pad at the base of the cold-launch missile tube, also used by the new DF-26 intermediate-range ballistic missile. (Via Meyet.com)
Although images of this missile first appeared on Chinese webpages in mid-2013, it was not until its mid-July appearance in model form at a new exhibit at Beijing’s Military Museum of the Chinese People’s Revolution that a new variant of the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation (CASC) DF-31A was identified as the ‘DF-31AG’.
Then, on 30 July, 16 DF-31AGs appeared in a major military parade marking the 90th Anniversary of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA). Its appearance in such a parade would indicate that the DF-31AG has entered service with the PLA Rocket Forces.
Previously this ICBM was identified as the ‘DF-31B’ by US government sources in a 2 October 2015 article in the Washington Free Beacon , which also reported that the DF-31B had been tested on 25 September 2015.
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The full text of the North Korean statement regarding Guam:

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“‘Who controls the past,’ ran the Party slogan, ‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.’”
George Orwell, 1984
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Interesting piece on "Hyperwar" :
https://www.fifthdomain.com/dod/2017/08 ... rd%20Brief
"Generals and military theorists have sought to characterize the nature of war for millennia, and for long periods of time, warfare doesn’t dramatically change. But, occasionally, new methods for conducting war cause a fundamental reconsideration of its very nature and implications. Allen and Husain, in “On Hyperwar,” identify cavalry, the rifled musket and Blitzkrieg as three historical examples.
The advent of hyperwar signals the next “fundamentally transformative change” in warfare. The term hyperwar has been used historically with different denotations, which Allen and Husain trace, but the authors have redefined and adopted the term to describe this “AI-fueled, machine-waged conflict" "where human decision making is almost entirely absent from the observe-orient-decide-act (OODA) loop”
https://www.fifthdomain.com/dod/2017/08 ... rd%20Brief
"Generals and military theorists have sought to characterize the nature of war for millennia, and for long periods of time, warfare doesn’t dramatically change. But, occasionally, new methods for conducting war cause a fundamental reconsideration of its very nature and implications. Allen and Husain, in “On Hyperwar,” identify cavalry, the rifled musket and Blitzkrieg as three historical examples.
The advent of hyperwar signals the next “fundamentally transformative change” in warfare. The term hyperwar has been used historically with different denotations, which Allen and Husain trace, but the authors have redefined and adopted the term to describe this “AI-fueled, machine-waged conflict" "where human decision making is almost entirely absent from the observe-orient-decide-act (OODA) loop”
“The study of history lies at the foundation of all sound military conclusions and practice.”
Alfred Thayer Mahan
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In response to North Korea's statement that it might fire missiles over Japan towards Guam, the Japanese Government has started to look at the possibility of deploying Patriot interceptors to its western regions. The batteries could be deployed in the regions mentioned in the North Korean statement.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Pyongyang-provocation/Japan-readies-missile-shield-as-Pyongyang-threatens-Guam
“‘Who controls the past,’ ran the Party slogan, ‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.’”
George Orwell, 1984
George Orwell, 1984
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The USAF oa-x light attack aircraft experiment is now conducting a fly-off at Holloman AFB here in New Mexico.
The contenders are the A-29 Super Tucano, the AT-6 Wolverine, the AT-802L Longsword and, the only jet, the Scorpion.
Light Attack Aircraft Flyoff
USAF is being pretty coy about this being anything other then an experiment to evaluate the capabilities of current off-the-shelf light aircraft. Textron has a lot riding on the Scorpion as they have potential international buyers awaiting the result of this fly-off.
The contenders are the A-29 Super Tucano, the AT-6 Wolverine, the AT-802L Longsword and, the only jet, the Scorpion.
Light Attack Aircraft Flyoff
USAF is being pretty coy about this being anything other then an experiment to evaluate the capabilities of current off-the-shelf light aircraft. Textron has a lot riding on the Scorpion as they have potential international buyers awaiting the result of this fly-off.
You and the rest, you forgot the first rule of the fanatic: When you become obsessed with the enemy, you become the enemy.
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Jeffrey Sinclair, "Infection", Babylon 5
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A Chinese state-run newspaper (the Global Times) has stated that if North Korea launches missiles that threaten U.S. soil first and the U.S. retaliates, China would remain neutral. However, it also stated that if the U.S. and South Korea carry out strikes to overthrow the North Korean regime, China would try to prevent them from doing so.
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1060791.shtml
“‘Who controls the past,’ ran the Party slogan, ‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.’”
George Orwell, 1984
George Orwell, 1984
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The original news: http://news.china.com/zhsd/gd/11157580/ ... 76071.html (Simplified Chinese)Ignore NK if missiles fired.
Intervene US-SK (& JP) if they try to attack NK
It sounds like China is very confident that NK still won't leave a mark on US soil no matter how dangerous and idiotic the bluff is. The 'neutral' is more like 'ignoring' instead of 'breaking the blood-alliance', because NK is still the only buffer country against the west.
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Meanwhile, the hypothetic rumor about Malaysia will lease Chinese MLRS and radars to be deployed within the range to hit Singapore, Malaysian MoD has officially denied such claim. However, the rumor traumatized Singaporeans and wildly spreading China-threat comments all over SEA regions.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/artic ... ia-reports
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asi ... or-9111322
Original rumor: https://sputniknews.com/asia/2017080910 ... launchers/
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PAK-FA, T-50 named as Su-57
http://tass.com/defense/960000
http://tass.com/defense/960000
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A Russian senator has said that Russia has put its eastern air defences on high alert to protect its territory. He said that Russia would shoot down a North Korean missile launched with erroneous coordinates as “the likelihood of an error ...is high enough.”
http://www.newsweek.com/russias-air-defenses-high-alert-over-north-korea-says-senator-649614
“‘Who controls the past,’ ran the Party slogan, ‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.’”
George Orwell, 1984
George Orwell, 1984
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http://www.eastpendulum.com/type-32-nou ... sous-marin
Henri K. on the new modified 032 Qing-class SSB and its prospective testing of the JL-3 SLBM.
Interestingly, the new modified Qing-class also has a raised platform infront of its sail (2). This area was previously associated with testing the cruise/anti-ship missile VLS of the 093B SSGN.
So, this indicates that we can expect a longer and larger sub-launched VLS missile system of some sort for the next submarine class.

Henri K. on the new modified 032 Qing-class SSB and its prospective testing of the JL-3 SLBM.
Interestingly, the new modified Qing-class also has a raised platform infront of its sail (2). This area was previously associated with testing the cruise/anti-ship missile VLS of the 093B SSGN.
So, this indicates that we can expect a longer and larger sub-launched VLS missile system of some sort for the next submarine class.

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The NKMC continues.
As for the "Intervene if US-SK attacks NK", many medias had quoted and rephrased it as "attack US-SK if they attack NK first". Which is easily draw lots of public outcrys and stirring more Sinophobic attitude:
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/china-join-fo ... 09641.html
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I might be frustrated when people cannot tell the difference between J-11 and Su-27 because of the exact appearance, but it's okay, most of them including myself can't actually tell at all, aside from original countries. So, a blogger wrote an idiot guide to definite their differences:
https://hushkit.net/2017/08/08/an-idiot ... -flankers/
As for the "Intervene if US-SK attacks NK", many medias had quoted and rephrased it as "attack US-SK if they attack NK first". Which is easily draw lots of public outcrys and stirring more Sinophobic attitude:
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/china-join-fo ... 09641.html
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I might be frustrated when people cannot tell the difference between J-11 and Su-27 because of the exact appearance, but it's okay, most of them including myself can't actually tell at all, aside from original countries. So, a blogger wrote an idiot guide to definite their differences:
https://hushkit.net/2017/08/08/an-idiot ... -flankers/
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Same news as in the DB3k thread, but this times reported by Jane's.
http://www.janes.com/article/73028/imag ... kd-20-lacm
http://www.janes.com/article/73028/imag ... kd-20-lacm
Images indicate possible precision-guided version of China's KD-20 LACM
Key Points
-China may have developed a new optically guided version of the KD-20 land attack cruise missile
-Such a weapon would allow aircraft like the H-6K bomber to conduct attacks from greater stand-off ranges