Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land

[trees]

I can't recal ever seeing a cardboard version of a New Zealand TERRitorial ???

[Shannon V. OKeets]

ORIGINAL: trees

I can't recal ever seeing a cardboard version of a New Zealand TERRitorial ???

Countersheet 23, Africa Aflame.

[trees]

imagine that, I must have lost one of what, 6,000 some counters? thankfully we have computers nowadays.

[Froonp]

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

ORIGINAL: trees
I can't recal ever seeing a cardboard version of a New Zealand TERRitorial ???

Countersheet 23, Africa Aflame.

I'd say CS14 (CS23 is Mech in Flames -- MiF) [:D].

[jesperpehrson]

*swoons*

Adam just sent me a lot of Russian write-ups. I am still to read them all but golly it feels like x-mas! [&o][&o]

[jesperpehrson]

A submission of my own to rest your eyes on for a while

[iamspamus]

Um, weren't para's (say a div or smaller unit) used against Eban Emael, the Belgian fortress in the open shots of 1940? I really don't remember Crete being the first use of them. Naybe Crete should be the first "large scale use" of German paras.

Thanks,
Jason

ORIGINAL: capitan

A submission of my own to rest your eyes on for a while

[jesperpehrson]

ORIGINAL: iamspamus

Um, weren't para's (say a div or smaller unit) used against Eban Emael, the Belgian fortress in the open shots of 1940? I really don't remember Crete being the first use of them. Naybe Crete should be the first "large scale use" of German paras.

Thanks,
Jason

Good point. This will be corrected. I believe that it was way smaller than a division that overtook Eban Emael though. I will check out the details.

EDIT: "10 May 1940, 85 paratroopers of the 1st Fallschirmjäger Division landed in the fortress with gliders" http://www.answers.com/topic/fort-eben-emael

[michaelbaldur]

they also dropped in aalborg and in norway .....

[jesperpehrson]

ORIGINAL: michaelbaldur

they also dropped in aalborg and in norway .....

Noted.

I changed the text per Iamspamus suggestion with "large scale drops"

There is one unit called "Air landing". Does anyone know what the real-life equivalent would be? I would have guessed the "Hermann Görings Paradropping Panzers" (TM ) but there is one of those already as an ARM Div (even if in the original 1995 version of the game that division was ARM with paradropping capabilities or somesuch). Advise welcomed.

[Froonp]

Air Landing ?
I don't see it in the MWiF countermix. From which year ? Which country ?

[jesperpehrson]

Hmm I was not actually looking at the countermix but at the unit-list that I work with (#2510). It is German and I do not see the year on the list.

[composer99]

Isn't the "air landing" unit the mountain division that can paradrop if it goes along for the ride with a paratrooper corps or division? Germany and the CW have them.

[Jimm]

It is an interesting omission from the game in general, given that such a large proportion of airborne forces in the war were actually glider-borne. Would potentially just be a cheap, 1-use air unit which would have to be used with a towing LND.

[Froonp]

ORIGINAL: composer99

Isn't the "air landing" unit the mountain division that can paradrop if it goes along for the ride with a paratrooper corps or division? Germany and the CW have them.

Yes, this must be it.

It is an interesting omission from the game in general, given that such a large proportion of airborne forces in the war were actually glider-borne. Would potentially just be a cheap, 1-use air unit which would have to be used with a towing LND.

Indeed, they are in the game, they are precisely this unit that Capitan talked about.
They need to have a PARA that goes along them for the ride and cannot be dropped alone.

[jesperpehrson]

Ok good. So I will look at any operations that used gliders instead of just ordinary paratroopers? (like Eben Emael)

[jesperpehrson]

Two more writeups coming up. The first one is one of Jimms fine works

[jesperpehrson]

Next is a German CAV from yours truly

[paulderynck]

Air Landing refers to glider borne AFAIK.

[iamspamus]

I think that air landing were used in Norway. Basically the paras drop in and take an airfield. Then the transport planes fly in dropping off the airlanding units who are more robust and they expand the control zone allowing other types of troop and such in.

That's as far as I can remember.

Jason

edit - It could have been gliders.

ORIGINAL: capitan

ORIGINAL: michaelbaldur

they also dropped in aalborg and in norway .....

Noted.

I changed the text per Iamspamus suggestion with "large scale drops"

There is one unit called "Air landing". Does anyone know what the real-life equivalent would be? I would have guessed the "Hermann Görings Paradropping Panzers" (TM ) but there is one of those already as an ARM Div (even if in the original 1995 version of the game that division was ARM with paradropping capabilities or somesuch). Advise welcomed.