Eagle Day to Bombing of the Reich is a improved and enhanced edition of Talonsoft's older Battle of Britain and Bombing the Reich. This updated version represents the best simulation of the air war over Britain and the strategic bombing campaign over Europe that has ever been made.
MTO: Even the endless tactical raids are suspended due to the weather.
this worries me a bit........how much of the game is fairly tedious, repetitive "minor" stuff like this or recce?
Will there be automated methods of doing these if, for example, you want to concentrate on the daylight strategic bombing of industry?
you can assign any of the commands to have the staff plot the raids for you, you can set the target type, and the range, how much damage (if target type has so and so, don't attack) and how much weather
in that shot, I have told the staff for the 12th, to attack AFs, with in 300 miles, only if the cloud cover is under 30%, with units that have a morale of at least 45, and over if the damage is under 65%
the raid is a little higher then I would send, but it works
there are pros and cons to using the staff, most people don't like it, but I also think most people forget to do the settings
the biggest hassle though is timeing, do you want to try and get everything just right, or is your major raid, going to be going in, just to the side of a AI planned raid, that is going to draw fighters to you, instead of where you were hopeing them to go
but, in the long run, you don't want to control everything, the AI can and will control what you want it to
Short-range tac strikes in the MTO, bad weather grounds everybody in the ETO.
15th January 1944. A: 129/3640 (49aa), X: 99/1611 (0gd). Losses include 6 Mustang III, 15 Spit Vb, 6 Spit IX, 26 P-47D, 3 P-51B, 2 P-38L, 12 B-25D, 10 A-20C, 8 B-26B, 20 B-17G and 4 B-24J as well as 36 Fw190A on the German side. Relatively small attritional losses, but much more in my favour than it has been recently.
MTO: The 15th AF attack Austrian industry with two forces of 96 B-25J's for the first time, with maximum escort. Steyr Daimler EFAC 0% but Libenau STEEL 100%. The interceptors scramble late, and it looks like OKL expected the bombing forces to go further north to Vienna, as only a couple of units chase cripples and the supporting two P-38H attacks see almost no combat. The Spit IX escorts on a MAC Baltimore raid to Zara kills 3 IAR 81's while covering the egress route, but otherwise the 15th are almost entirely unopposed - 0/288f 4/191b 1e. Elsewhere the A-20's and B-25's on tactical raids take heavy losses from Flak; the MAC raid to SIAP Vado Ligure OILS suffering particularly badly with 11/48b going down from 16,000 ft without a LW fighter in sight. That really needs to be toned down. [:@]
ETO: The 8th AF are back in action at last, with three forces of 100 B-17G from the 1st Bomb Division hitting aviation targets around Brunswick. The inbound leg is quiet, and while the Nimo and Bussing NAG EFAC's escape significant damage, Luther AFAC gets hit for 100%, which is more like it. OKL scramble the interceptors to take on the fighter escorts, but while the inbound P-47's take significant losses without fighting back, it looks like the supporting 9th AF Marauder raid to Bremen overwhelms the attackers in the end, allowing the 8th bombers avoid substantial combat until reaching the Dutch coast on the return leg. The 8th (with FC and 9th AF escorts to cover the initial leg) manage 18/728f 20/300b 35e, while the 9th hits Vacuum-Oslebhausen OILR for 85% and score 19/231f 8/64b 76e. The following 2TAF Mitchell raid to Kaiserstuhl STEEL does a useful 92% damage but the escorts don't do as well, the Spit Vb's in particular suffering after exiting the Dutch coast - 18/356f 1/65b 12e. Overall a good day's work, with low B-17 losses (under 10% against LW opposition) and some useful bombing damage offsetting the high P-47 losses, which after all is what they're there for. Seeing the tactical raids soaking up Werner's efforts was particularly satisfying. [8D] Aside from that, a Tiffie raid hits Belgian industry without response.
BC: 3 Group attack Rothensee OILS, and manage to get 168/240 bombloads in the target area, which should do some damage. The LNSF attack Berlin with 12 Mossie B.IV and 12 B.XVI for no losses, but 4 Mossie NF.II's go down to Flak while the NJG remain in hiding.
16th January 1944. A: 76/1679 (24aa), X: 62/960 (0gd). Losses include 23 Bf109, 14 Spit IX, 8 P-39L, 7 B-25D, 27 B-24J. A good attrional exchange, although more by luck than judgement on my part and on too small a scale to be significant by itself.
MTO: The 15th head for Austria again with two forces of about 96 bombers each with maximum escort. The LW assemble their fighters west of Gyor before attacking after the primaries are reached - Steyr EFAC socked in, while Schwechat Heinkel AFAC gets blasted for 88%, and take some Liberators down despite a good fight from the Lightnings. The Steyr force heads north parallel to the returning Schwechat force, and score some RTB's before missing their secondary and ineffectively bombing T/o's on the way back. Overall 8/288f 27/192b 67e. The usual supporting P-38H attacks do little, although one of them hits Schwechat AFAC as a secondary target to add insult to injury about 20 mins after the Liberators. Otherwise the usual routine of medium bomber attacks on Italian industrial targets by the tactical forces - points of interest being an unopposed and ineffective A-20 raid to industry near Fiume, and another B-25D strike on SIAP Vado Ligure being massacred by Flak again.
ETO: A couple of Tiffie raids and a P-47D RR strike go in between the cloud cover. Suprisingly enough, one of the Typhoon strikes against General Motors ARM attracts a major response, and the Spit IXs actually put up a fight, scoring 11/44f 0/47b 10e while the Typhoons miss the primary and do little to Zeebrugge RR, the secondary.
BC: An accurate 4 Group raid on Duisburg Ruhrort PORT is somewhat undermined by turning into another LGO raid, although 96 bombloads hit the target area with some reasonably accurate Mossie B.IV support - 0/12b. No NJG activity.
17th January 1944. A: 34/1689 (19aa), X: 29/413 (6gd). 7 P-38H, 15 P-47D. And excellent small-scale turn for me, with some useful bombing damage on an important aviation industry target, and a successful night for the NI's on a deep-penetration BC raid.
MTO: For the third time in three days, the 15th AF send a twin-force raid group into Austria. After three previous attempts, this time Steyr Daimler Puch EFAC is finally hit for 99% [:)], while Bad Voslau AFAC escapes damage. Some LW interceptors from the Viennese AF's come up as the supporting 12th AF P-38H's come in, and get diverted by them while the bombers fly home almost unmolested. There's a brief combat over Yugoslavia on the return with the only LW unit to chase that far, but the escorts deal with them as they break off to return home. 1/285f 2/188b 14e. The usual tactical raids, except this time the focus is on fighter strikes to the AF's north of Milan for the first time in a while, which have been PR'd as hosting a couple of Gruppen. 15/96f for the two 12th AF P-47D Groups, but the following MAC P-40 and P-39 strikes escorted by Spit IX's seem to avoid casualties, although they manage to miss the RTBing LW as well. You're actually supposed to attack the enemy, guys [:@]. I'm guessing most of the LW ground casualties happen here, as the Thunderbolts manage some strafing attacks on Venegono AF after bombing Oria AF.
ETO: Some light tactical activity - Tiffies hit Air Liquide CHEM as a T/O after missing General Motors ARM yet again, while the 9th AF send a P-47 Group to strike Rouen RR. No opposition.
BC: 5 Group do a deep penetration to Frankfurt-Oder after a long approach out over the North Sea and down the neck of Schleswig-Holstein north of Hamburg. Roll on those extra way-points to rationalise the route-planning and allow me to route forces away from Flak nests without this sort of humungeous circuitous routing. The bombing is adequate, with 187 bombloads in the target area and 4/352b lost. 11 Mossie B.IV and 24 B.XVI's attack Berlin to rudely interrupt Werner's partying at the RLM, but the first B.XVI goes down to Flak over Magdeburg on the return leg. The NJG put in a rare appearance, with some chasing the Wimpey RCM's out past Lubeck into the Baltic as they depart the bomber stream west of Berlin which always entertains me [:D]. The NI's are also out in force to greet them , and claim 10 (in reality 7 plus one crash) for 1 Mossie NF.XII lost to Flak on the return.
Ok dumb qestion i recently tryed to start a PBEM game... my Axis opponent created the turn send it to me so i made planning and stuff but before that i was to chose Allied ID (wich i did) i planed all my missions ended the turn, i saved it afterward and sended it back and my opponent can't do anything with it:( what seams to be the problem??? how a proper file handling look's like??:)
Thanks
Pinky: Hey Brain what are we goeing to do this evening?
Brain: The Usual Pinky we will try to take over the World;)
my Axis opponent created the turn send it to me so i made planning and stuff but before that i was to chose Allied ID (wich i did) i planed all my missions ended the turn, i saved it afterward and sended it back and my opponent can't do anything with it
No idea - provided you use the turn first generated by the Axis player it should be OK after you select an ID, although I remember having to copy the file btruser.dat to the game directory between computers to resolve something like this once.
18th January 1944. A: 240/2006 (56aa), X: 119/1658 (4gd). 41 Bf109G-6, 23 Me410, 6 Mustang III, 7 Hurri II, 10 P-38L, 25 P-47D, 24 P-51B, 139 B-17F. A major battle but a clear Axis attritional victory [:(], with Werner at 7% losses while inflciting 9% on me by air combat alone, with a better than 1:1 attrition rate against the heavy bombers.
MTO: Tac raids to Italy, including the usual low-yield fighter strikes on the Milanese AFs, with the MAC fighter squadrons persisting with their inability to intercept RTBing LW interceptors despite arriving overhead on their AF's at the right time [:@].
ETO: The 8th AF send a single medium-sized force to hit Bussing NAG EFAC, supported by 9th AF sweeps. Werner catches me out by staging a major interception of the inbound force as it crosses the Ems, and the 50% escort force is overwhelmed after a heavy fight. Only 44 bombers get through to bomb the target [X(], and the supporting sweeps come in too late and do too little to help on the return leg. The FC sweep alone loses 17/48 P-51B's, while the main force achieves 30/312f 139/160b 162e for 30% damage to the target. Bomber losses are far too heavy, and the re-equipment of the 3rd Bomb Division from my small stock of B-17G's now commences.
BC: 6 Group to Duisburg for a good raid, with more than 90% of the bombloads in the target area. 5/356b with 0/12b for the Oboe supporters. No NJG activity. PR reveals Duisburg-Ruhrort PORT at 99%, Rothensee-Elbe OILS at 99%, while some of the last month's RR targets are relatively unscathed, Augsburg at 28% and Frankfurt/Oder at 7%.
I think one of the important things that happened during this turn:
2 FGs turned back after a short clash over the Channel [:D]
Two of my Elite units ( bah....one only has a total exp of 55 ) followed a few escorts back to the Channel....and there I changed their targt to two fresh incoming FGs....this created a huge gap in fresh escorts [:D]
20th January 1944. A: 132/3645 (27aa), X: 140/1253. 37 Bf 109 G6/R6, 21 Zerstorer, 7 Spit Vb, 11 Spit IX, 5 Spit XIV, 6 Typhoon, 6 P-38H, 4 P-38L, 18 P-47D, 10 B-26B, 6 B-17F, 43 B-24J. A good turn for me, with some useful bombing results and overall low heavy bomber losses against a good level of LW attrition. [8D]
MTO: Major 15th AF attacks on aviation industry targets around Budapest. Two forces of 96 Liberators attack Dunai and Gyori Vagongyar AFAC's. The Gyori attack goes in successfully against a coule of skirmishes while inbound, while the Dunai force attract the conceptration LW interceptors gathering NW of Budapest. The late arrival of their target-leg escorts plus extensive flying over the Budapest city area in search of the secondary target and t/o's after the primary is socked in leaves them exposed to substantial fighter attack until the escorts catch up south of the city. [:@] Final results are 4/288f 43/188b 49e, with Gyori AFAC at 28%. Some useful LW losses, even if the allied bomber losses are heavy and the bombing results poor. The supporting 12th AF P-38H strikes against Budapest AF's come in too late and lose 6/96f, mostly from return-leg attacks approaching the Adriatic coast. Otherwise some average medium bomber and fighter attacks on Italian PORT and RR by the tactical forces see no opposition.
ETO: More activity, as the 8th send two forces of 160 B-17F with full escort plus FC and 9th AF support to my favourite aviation targets around Leipzig, Mittel Deutsche EFAC and Erla AFAC. Zero resistance on the way in, and little combat for the 8th on the return leg, mostly returning Thunderbolts from the inbound leg escort force being hunted on their return over Holland; 8/728f 6/320b 9e for Mittel-Deutsche EFAC 100% and Erla only 1%.
The main fight is against the tactical raids. An early 2TAF Typhoon strike against SASIC RUBBER in Belgium attracts most of the LW fighters in northern France, and the first Spit XIVs from 401 RCAF Sqn go down to the usual series of near-defenceless bounces, 16/52f 6/72b 7e - the Spit Vb's get 5 for 7 lost this turn, the XIV's 2-5 lost [&:] Nasty Werner [:(]. The main fight is against the 9th AF Marauders going to Nordhafen RUBBER to cover the 8th's return leg. The target takes nil damage, but the combat results are excellent, 12/288f 10/64b 91e. The following 2TAF Mitchells make a small contribution, 7/407f 0/72b 7e for Hamm OILS 72%, while the 2 Group Mossie FB's hit Superphosphat CHEM near Bremen for a disappointing 28% although they only lose 3/24b, mostly cripples to flak near Emden.
BC: 1 Group do some damage to Halle, with about 75% of the bombloads in the city area, with the rest overshooting for once. 205 Group may have actually produced a good raid against Budpest this time, with over 80% of their bombloads hitting the city area. The NJGs are up in small numbers over Germany, with the NI's claiming 1 for 1 Mossie lost. PR reveals Dresden RR at 99%. Excelleurnt.
ETO: 3 forces of 100 B-17G to aviation targets around Stuttgart. No resistance, apart from the usual escort hunting as the inbound escorts head home which sees some bad bounces with 2, 3 and even 4 Thunderbolts going down to single bounces. Bombing results are disappointing due to heavy cloud, with only one primary hit - DB Sindelfingen EFAC 15%, otherwise Heilbronn RR 57%, and some blind bombing of Unterturkheim RR. 12/680f 4/300b 9e.
For once the main fight is not against the 9th AF supporting raid, and the Marauders do 100% damage to Morhange OILS for 1/257f 1/64b 1e. Most of the combat centers on the following 2TAF Mitchells aiming for Hesperange STEEL, and the Spits take heavy losses - 37/321f 4/71b 41e. The Typhoons hit GM ARM for 49% at long last without opposition.
BC: 3 Group raid Ebano OILR outside Hamburg for a basic failure - only 72 bombloads in the target area for 1/240b lost. Oboe Mossie B.IVs attack Krupp STEEL but only 9 bombloads are reported in the target area, 0/24b. Little NJG activity, although one is destroyed by the NI's.
MTO: The Norden bombsights are frozen up today. The 15th send a single force of 96b to hit OILS in the Trieste area, and miss, losing 5 bombers to Flak. The 12th AF A-20C's try to hit SIAP Vado Ligure OILS and miss, before a horde of flak cripples crash into the sea off Corsica much to the amusement of the MAC Mitchell crews who have seen it all before. Otherwise some fighter strikes on RR, with only the Stab units in southern Italy doing anything in response.
ETO: A Tiffie raid to SA Redeventza OIL for 58%, no resistance. Otherwise quiet due to weather.
BC: 4 Group raid Bottrop, getting 70% of their bombs in the target area with the rest landing in Essen. No resistance.
, and claim 10 (in reality 7 plus one crash) for 1 Mossie NF.XII lost to Flak on the return.
